Well, this is one step, admittedly a weird one, towards having games universally recognised as an art form.
Iran Publishes Anti-Israel Videogames
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Do these Neo-Nazis happen to be sponsored by the American government? If not, then this is rather a useless comparison to make.Gladion said:
Anti-Iranians, if there is such a label, isn't synonymous with Anti-Israeli the way he was using it.cainx10a said:
HAHAHA To them, there is no distinction. Every Jew is a Zionist. Even if that's what they were trying to do, do you think that's the way the games will be interpreted? You're lying to yourself if you think this isn't blatant, not-so-subtle propoganda. Doesn't matter though. As is the youth in that country needed any more convincing.
I'm well aware that there is a difference between being lazy in villain selection and propoganda. I was hoping that my dot-dot-P would protect me from seriousness. I was wrong, and I apologize.punkrocker27 said:Yeah you may not see the problem because you're an unfunny dumbass, but there's actually a difference between games that feature Russians as enemies and games that openly propogate the idea that Jews are bad. As someone of Russo-Jewish decent, this comment makes me wanna facepalm.The Amazing Tea Alligator said:Well America has been publishing anti-Russian games for years - I don't see the problem<----- This was a joke. Unfortunatly it wasn't a funny one, for I am a dumbass
Seriousness is what gives a serious person his power. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds the galaxy together.
There is no getting away from it.
Considering President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has zero say in military actions, he can think pink ponies from God will come down to zap the zionist weapons for all anybody cares. The one to take into account is the true ruler of Iran, Ayatollah Khamenei.TheBelgianGuy said:
Either case these games won't have the viral effect that Mohammad Reza Jokar believes it will. Those who would just as soon see Iran lighten up won't buy the games, leaving those who already believe the propoganda to waste their money.
I wouldn't be so cocky about Iran being a small fry in the big scheme of things, either. A little over a hundred years a country about the same size as Iran defeated the most powerful navy in the world at that time. Before that happened, the powers of the world were each thinking that either it might be best to invade that pest, or ignore it. The economic and political leaders of that little country firmly believed in Manifest Destiny, that they had a duty to seize all they could and spread the good word of Democracy to all.
That country? The United States of America.
Yes, on paper... it's not like America didn't have any stupid laws nobody obides or even takes serious. You can see people dancing out on the streets, while others drive by with the latest Lady Gaga song turned up. They don't get hanged, either.Orcus_35 said:
But I see what you were going for, so technically, I still stand corrected.
These games are? The article says that some students who are in this militia (you know what a militia is, right?) made the games, but if you have other info, be sure to share it.Lord Mountbatten Reborn said:
that whole "flotila" thing as a videogame concept confuses me.
considering the entire point of the game is to defame Israel, i'm assuming you won't be playing as the IDF but rather people on board the mavi marmara (the ship that there was violence on)
but how exactly are they going to pull it off as a game ?
either they actually depict events as they REALLY happened, and have you play as one of the guys who attacked the soldiers as they boarded the ship - which kinda screws up the whole "the Israeli's massacred people for no reason" message by having the passengers attack the soldiers.
or they have you just run away from soldiers without doing anything - which might be good as propoganda but it wouldn't be much fun to play, since you don't do anything.
considering the entire point of the game is to defame Israel, i'm assuming you won't be playing as the IDF but rather people on board the mavi marmara (the ship that there was violence on)
but how exactly are they going to pull it off as a game ?
either they actually depict events as they REALLY happened, and have you play as one of the guys who attacked the soldiers as they boarded the ship - which kinda screws up the whole "the Israeli's massacred people for no reason" message by having the passengers attack the soldiers.
or they have you just run away from soldiers without doing anything - which might be good as propoganda but it wouldn't be much fun to play, since you don't do anything.
I'd like to add that since practically everyone in Israel is a member of the IDF, reserve or otherwise, that making too large a distinction between the IDF and Israel doesn't work. Demonise the IDF, you demonise Israel too.punkrocker27 said:
I'm probably as biased as punkrocker27 is like to be though, since I'm also of Russo-Jewish descent, but whenever I hear the word "Zionist" being thrown around, it doesn't sound like much distinction is really being made between Zionists and Jews; they might as well be the same thing in the eyes of the people saying it. It's one of the reasons that there are some people in my school I would very much try to avoid admitting any connection with Judaism to. I only know one person who makes the distinction, and openly admonishes friends insulting Jews rather than Zionists, but he's a rarity.
Forgive me, I'm not good at picking up internet hints when I'm in a rage.The Amazing Tea Alligator said:I'm well aware that there is a difference between being lazy in villain selection and propoganda. I was hoping that my dot-dot-P would protect me from all seriousness. I was wrong, and I apologize.punkrocker27 said:Yeah you may not see the problem because you're an unfunny dumbass, but there's actually a difference between games that feature Russians as enemies and games that openly propogate the idea that Jews are bad. As someone of Russo-Jewish decent, this comment makes me wanna facepalm.The Amazing Tea Alligator said:Well America has been publishing anti-Russian games for years - I don't see the problem
-damn double post-
I'd like to take this opportunity to admit that yes, I may be a little biased...slightly.
I'd like to take this opportunity to admit that yes, I may be a little biased...slightly.
The Basij militia was formed on the orders of Ayatollah Khomeini, takes orders from the Ayatollah of the day, and the current one, Khamenei, has called them "the greatest hope to the Iranian nation". They also were involved in repressing the protests over the presidential election. Has the American government done that with those Neo-Nazis recently?Gladion said:
No problem, I figured that I'd offend a few people (more than it would seem have actually been offended), but felt that the post was worth it.punkrocker27 said:Forgive me, I'm not good at picking up internet hints when I'm in a rage.The Amazing Tea Alligator said:I'm well aware that there is a difference between being lazy in villain selection and propoganda. I was hoping that my dot-dot-P would protect me from all seriousness. I was wrong, and I apologize.punkrocker27 said:Yeah you may not see the problem because you're an unfunny dumbass, but there's actually a difference between games that feature Russians as enemies and games that openly propogate the idea that Jews are bad. As someone of Russo-Jewish decent, this comment makes me wanna facepalm.The Amazing Tea Alligator said:Well America has been publishing anti-Russian games for years - I don't see the problem