Iran Publishes Anti-Israel Videogames

[bladeofdarkness]

A little over a hundred years a country about the same size as Iran defeated the most powerful navy in the world at that time. Before that happened, the powers of the world were each thinking that either it might be best to invade that pest, or ignore it. The economic and political leaders of that little country firmly believed in Manifest Destiny, that they had a duty to seize all they could and spread the good word of Democracy to all.
That country? The United States of America.

America is over 300 years old.......

Also, defeated the most powerful navy in the world? I don't know all of details about the American war of independence so I can't outright claim your wrong, but I think you must be wrong since there is no way that America could have taken the British fleet head on despite still being in its infancy as a nation and won. Not to mention that if it had not been for the French you would still be drinking tea with the British.

actually, its 234 years old.
it was established in 1776

 

[Canid117]

Hmm... While I am against biased propaganda Israel have been acting like assholes for a decade or two so meh.

Well they have been invaded by their neighbors numerous times over the years and that kind of environment tends to breed a defensively asshole like nature.

And for the second game, well, it's not the US doesn't have a certain "sniper" game to take down Iranian troops. Couldn't remember the name of it.

That game was supposedly both shit and not supported by any government. These games were published by the government run Iranian militia.

 

[GiantRedButton]

*Shakes head* Oh Iran, why is it that everything you do and make only fuels more hate and rage? Well at least your citizens are trying to do better, as for your government... yeah lets not get into that.

One of the games, Assault on Freedom Convoy is based on the Gaza Flotilla Raid that resulted in the deaths of nine Turkish activists.

Something tells me that this is going to piss us Turks off.

Why? its about when isreal elite troops bashed a bunch of turkish red cross guys with iron sticks, killed ome of them some are still imprisoned in isreal i think.Nte that this happened while the red cross guys where wavinga white flag, they don't need to ad any propaganda to make isreal look bad and the turks where trying to help palestinan refugees
http://www.thetotalcollapse.com/israel-kills-humanitarian-aid-helpers-on-board-freedom-flotilla/
It's a recent event that makes Isreal look bad even without propaganda added to it.

 

[Gladion]

The Basij militia was formed on the orders of Ayatollah Khomeini, takes orders from the Ayatollah of the day, and the current one, Khamenei, has called them "the greatest hope to the Iranian nation". They also were involved in repressing the protests over the presidential election. Has the American government done that with those Neo-Nazis recently?

Listen... I know they are connected to the regime, I'm just still not convinced the Iranian government financed those games. It's not a coincidence that a game like this is made by people who are in that certain group, but I still don't think there is a direct connection, other than an ideological one. What you're doing is just assuming and sounds like the "Iran finances Arabian terrorists"-thesis.

 

[Gladion]

Pardon me for double post.

 

[Jkudo]

I bet the game isnt even any good.

And what does Zionist even mean? They toss the word around all the time.

Basically the jews.

?noun
a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel.

They really don't like the Jews. They like the Jews about as much as Hitler did.

I'd argue they simply don't like Israeli Jews. IE Zionists. Let's face it, they were given weapons and a blank check by the international community to carve a country out of territory that's been populated for centuries, because of something someone in Germany did. How exactly is that logical?

I'm not sticking up for Iran (I've got problems with most countries), but Palestine and other Arab countries kinda have something to be pissed about.

I agree, i have tried to give Iran the benefit of the doubt because Israel is so great with their information control. It's easy to demonize iran, and if half of what comes out of that area is true, then the government is clearly unstable, but we need to stop throwing around the phrase anti-semitic. There is a difference between Anti-zionist and Anti-Semitic, like someone already said there are anti-zionist jews so it's not insane for people of other religions to be anti-zionist. I can see why they'd be all pissed about the international community deciding this land belongs to these guys when people already live there. People are pissed, which leads to terrorism, and more and more military action.
OH and the game sounds awful lol, i'll have to let this title pass me by. I'll probably wait for devil's den 3 as well.
And one more, to the joker, csi miami thing......awesome.

 

[Atmos Duality]

A little over a hundred years a country about the same size as Iran defeated the most powerful navy in the world at that time. Before that happened, the powers of the world were each thinking that either it might be best to invade that pest, or ignore it. The economic and political leaders of that little country firmly believed in Manifest Destiny, that they had a duty to seize all they could and spread the good word of Democracy to all.
That country? The United States of America.

America is over 300 years old.......

Also, defeated the most powerful navy in the world? I don't know all of details about the American war of independence so I can't outright claim your wrong, but I think you must be wrong since there is no way that America could have taken the British fleet head on despite still being in its infancy as a nation and won. Not to mention that if it had not been for the French you would still be drinking tea with the British.

actually, its 234 years old.
it was established in 1776

Nitpicking here! If we go by practicalities, our government wasn't officially established until two years after the Constitutional Convention. In 1776, we were still running under the Articles of Confederation.

Anyway, carry on!

 

[bladeofdarkness]

I bet the game isnt even any good.

And what does Zionist even mean? They toss the word around all the time.

Basically the jews.

?noun
a worldwide Jewish movement that resulted in the establishment and development of the state of Israel.

They really don't like the Jews. They like the Jews about as much as Hitler did.

I'd argue they simply don't like Israeli Jews. IE Zionists. Let's face it, they were given weapons and a blank check by the international community to carve a country out of territory that's been populated for centuries, because of something someone in Germany did. How exactly is that logical?

I'm not sticking up for Iran (I've got problems with most countries), but Palestine and other Arab countries kinda have something to be pissed about.

that is wrong on at least 3 different levels
1)israel's formation was decided in the league of nations mandatein 1922, over 20 years before the holocaust - so it has nothing to do with Germany
Israel was formed AFTER the holocaust, but not because of it.
it came form a basic recognization of the fact that the Jews, like all other people, are entitled to self determination.
the holocaust just hammered home the point.

2)the jews who started to move to Israel didn't get "weapons and a blank check" from anyone, and needed to fight in order to keep the British from weaseling out on their commitment to that League of nations mandate.

3)the arabs have NOTHING to be pissed off about, since there are presently 22 arab countries, in an area around the same size as EUROPE.
they should be thankful.
if it wasn't for british and french "western imperialism" that ended the ottoman empire's rule over the region, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi arabia, and all the other UAE countries wouldn't exist
so they have no right to complain about the Jews getting an area the size of New jersey.

they wanted to prevent the establishment of a Jewish state THEN, for the same reason they are struggling to prevent the establishment of a KURDISH state TODAY.

 

[Shotzey]

A little over a hundred years a country about the same size as Iran defeated the most powerful navy in the world at that time. Before that happened, the powers of the world were each thinking that either it might be best to invade that pest, or ignore it. The economic and political leaders of that little country firmly believed in Manifest Destiny, that they had a duty to seize all they could and spread the good word of Democracy to all.
That country? The United States of America.

America is over 300 years old.......

Also, defeated the most powerful navy in the world? I don't know all of details about the American war of independence so I can't outright claim your wrong, but I think you must be wrong since there is no way that America could have taken the British fleet head on despite still being in its infancy as a nation and won. Not to mention that if it had not been for the French you would still be drinking tea with the British.

This is correct. We have never taken on the British Navy heads on since (for the most part) we were guerrilla fighters who mostly stuck to ground assaults. Now we did have "stand in the middle of a field and fire straight ahead" warfare but it was really the guerrillas who won it.

 

[Danny Ocean]

And what does Zionist even mean? They toss the word around all the time.

It's like Nationalist Judaism. The Jewish equivalent of all those fundamentalist Islamic parties as far as I know.

British from weaseling out on their commitment to that League of nations mandate.

To be fair we were bankrupted several dozen times over. It could be argued is was quite unfair to expect Britain to maintain such a resource-intensive commitment.

3)the arabs have NOTHING to be pissed off about, since there are presently 22 arab countries, in an area around the same size as EUROPE.
they should be thankful.

It's not that simple. Land is quite abundant (I mean how far apart are most of the cities in the USA?). Good land, and resources are the real kickers. That's more why they get pissy.

 

[oktalist]

And what does Zionist even mean? They toss the word around all the time.

Zionism has come to mean fundamentalist Judaism, including the belief that the Jews are a superior race. In contradicts many other moderate Jewish teachings. Unfortunately, opposition to Zionism can be difficult to separate from anti-Semitism.

 

[bladeofdarkness]

And what does Zionist even mean? They toss the word around all the time.

It's like Nationalist Judaism. The Jewish equivalent of all those fundamentalist Islamic parties.

bullshit
Zionism is Jewish nationalism
its far from religious fundamentalism, and was originally secular in nature.

its a recognition that Jews, are a PEOPLE
in the same way that English, Italian, and German are people.
and as a people, are entitled to self determination.
nothing more

 

[Danny Ocean]

And what does Zionist even mean? They toss the word around all the time.

It's like Nationalist Judaism. The Jewish equivalent of all those fundamentalist Islamic parties.

bullshit
Zionism is Jewish nationalism
its far from religious fundamentalism, and was originally secular in nature.

its a recognition that Jews, are a PEOPLE
in the same way that English, Italian, and German are people.
and as a people, are entitled to self determination.
nothing more

You say it's bullshit and then agree with it. Buh?

The Fundamentalist Islamic parties advocate an Islamic state as a part of their religious doctrine, as far as I know. That's what makes them nationalist. I was simply trying to draw a parallel that might be more accessible.

Both groups are minority groups.
Both groups suffer from some religious motivation.
Both groups want nation status.

I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove that Zionism isn't at least, in part, motivated by religion, seeing as it is a sect within a religion, no?

Chill out.

Since the intial war, Israel has taken more territory it wasn't even privy to in the first place.

Beyond that yes, the US and NATO have provided Israel with an almost limitless amount of weaponry. Look it up son.

In direct violation of UN charters, which they (The US especially), are all-too-happy to enforce when it serves their national interest. The double-standard is a big part of why they (ME nations) all get so mad.

 

[bladeofdarkness]

that is wrong on at least 3 different levels
1)israel's formation was decided in the league of nations mandatein 1922, over 20 years before the holocaust - so it has nothing to do with Germany
Israel was formed AFTER the holocaust, but not because of it.
it came form a basic recognization of the fact that the Jews, like all other people, are entitled to self determination.
the holocaust just hammered home the point.

2)the jews who started to move to Israel didn't get "weapons and a blank check" from anyone, and needed to fight in order to keep the British from weaseling out on their commitment to that League of nations mandate.

3)the arabs have NOTHING to be pissed off about, since there are presently 22 arab countries, in an area around the same size as EUROPE.
they should be thankful.
if it wasn't for british and french "western imperialism" that ended the ottoman empire's rule over the region, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Saudi arabia, and all the other UAE countries wouldn't exist
so they have no right to complain about the Jews getting an area the size of New jersey.

they wanted to prevent the establishment of a Jewish state THEN, for the same reason they are struggling to prevent the establishment of a KURDISH state TODAY.

The pact you refer to, was to create a Jewish homeland inside of Palestine, not to reduce Palestine to rubble, and leave Israel in full control over everything. (These events followed WW1). After WW2, the UN proposed a partitioning of Palestine to create a Jewish State (taking further from land that had been populated for centuries), which the Arab nations rejected.

Since the intial war, Israel has taken more territory it wasn't even privy to in the first place.

Beyond that yes, the US and NATO have provided Israel with an almost limitless amount of weaponry. Look it up son.

Palestine, as described in the mandate, refers to the area that includes modern day Jordan.
the British carved out around 70% of palestine, and created an Arab state on it, leaving 30% for the Jews.
after WWII, there was talk about partitioning the REMAINING 30% into two states (a jewish and an arab one) which ment the end result would be the Jews getting 15% of the area that was talked about in the League of nations mandate.
the arabs, who would end up getting 85% of palestine according to this new partition STILL rejected it.

its not about how much land the Jews would get
its about the fact that the Jews would get ANY land at all.

 

[bladeofdarkness]

And what does Zionist even mean? They toss the word around all the time.

It's like Nationalist Judaism. The Jewish equivalent of all those fundamentalist Islamic parties.

bullshit
Zionism is Jewish nationalism
its far from religious fundamentalism, and was originally secular in nature.

its a recognition that Jews, are a PEOPLE
in the same way that English, Italian, and German are people.
and as a people, are entitled to self determination.
nothing more

You say it's bullshit and then agree with it. Buh?

The Fundamentalist Islamic parties advocate an Islamic state as a part of their religious doctrine, as far as I know. That's what makes them nationalist. I was simply trying to draw a parallel that might be more accessible.

Both groups are minority groups.
Both groups suffer from some religious motivation.
Both groups want nation status.

I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove that Zionism isn't at least, in part, motivated by religion, seeing as it is a sect within a religion, no?

Chill out.

Zionism is a SECULAR movment
so much so, that there is an actual definition of "religious zionism" to denote that UNLIKE original zionism, this is a movement based on faith.
Judeism is a religion, but Jews are not just a religion.
they are one of the oldest PEOPLE in the world, who's TRADITIONAL RELIGION was Judaism.
a people, in the same sense that the english are a people.

and Zionism is not limited to Jews
you can be a christian or Muslim Zionist, and you can be an Atheist Zionist (i am)
and the REALLY crazy religios Jews who live in Israel, oppose Zionism, because they feel that the Jewish people shouldn't take their fate into their own hands.
the "Zionists" are the LESS crazy religious Jews.

 

[Waif]

Thank you Mike Thompson. This article states what I already wanted to say in another article, but couldn't, for fear of being accused of things or being attacked for my thoughts. This article should be a reminder that it is unwise to point the finger of blame, when you yourself are just as guilty.

 

[Thick]

Oh Iran, silly Iran. Even if Israel is the largest collective asshole on the planet, you'll never get anyone to side with you if you by being equally big assholes. Stop violently waving your willy around.

Of course, saying Iran published these games is a touch disingenuous. It's like saying America publishes games, no, AmericaNS publish games. But now I'm nit picking.

Somehow I imagine they created the title Devil Den 2 even though there's not (there may be, but for the sake of my imagination, there's not) a Devil Den 1, so someone would have the opportunity to excuse its badness by saying, "Sequels are never as good as the original."