I have a penpall (well, e-mail, youknowwhatImean) in Iran who pretty much shares my opinion on this matter.
this is getting pretty ridiculous.
the irony is, a lot of people there find this case fishy, many think he's innocent but nobody is gonna protest this out of fear for a violent crackdown.
and if the shit hits the fan, the ones who've been pulling the strings are the last who will pay for it.
A Former US Marine who has links with the CIA and he skips onto a plane and flies to Iran?
What the heck was he thinking? This is the same as those US campers who ended up hiking into Iran from IRAQ................... Like really, what goes through these peoples heads? This is real life, not a TV show.
Planting the seeds of sedition in your nation, if true, is a valid reason to be put to death for.
To all those who protest otherwise, what does the USA do to spies? Or don't you know?
Empirically speaking, if you're calculating what sort of effect this would have on the future of the human species, I'd say most likely next to nothing.
Iran sure just went up on the U.S.'s shit list. I picked an interesting time to enlist in the US army.
Blue Hero said:
I've always wondered what it'd be like being executed. Maybe this guy can make a game about it afterwards so I can experience all the fun of execution with none of the death.
My thoughts exactly, I read this and I just feel a bit weary on how much of this story is true ansd how much is exageration,fabrication or cherry-picked. Cause you can do the same thing to pretty all countrties, report only on the bad happenings and none of the positive aspects.
But they still shouldn't kill him for making video games, just deport.
Even if those planting the seeds of sedition believe they are bettering your life or to change what they feel is an unbearable government? Well I guess we need to start gunning down all of the "occupy" protesters... Or do they get trial first?
To all those who protest otherwise, what does the USA do to spies? Or don't you know?
Depends, is the spy captured in America or not? Is the spy an American citizen or not? If they are a citizen are they in the military or not? What kind of information was being passed along? Lastly, does the spy's country of origin have any of our spies captured at the time?
Depending on the severity of the espionage the consequences range from a FAIR trial and death in one extreme to a simple prisoner exchange in the other extreme. Barring any possibility of flipping the spy, of course.
Empirically speaking, if you're calculating what sort of effect this would have on the future of the human species, I'd say most likely next to nothing.
I honestly hope you are right. I really do. Worst case scenario- Iran kills him, US declares war, Iran unveils nuclear weapons, begins Cold War part 2 (except Iranian leaders are bat shit crazy and will launch), US either stands down and emboldens Iran or calls the bluff and....
Depends, I have actually read the bill and it does not seem that bad. I take issue with one part of it, but it is not the "interwebz is gonna die" bill people make it out to be.
Seriously, read it. All of it. I did.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.3261:
OT- Anyway Iran is going to have to be shown their place at some point in time. If the world does not stop these shenanigans now we will have to do it when Iran starts waving around nuclear weapons, and that will be a much more difficult situation.
Worst case scenario- Iran kills him, US declares war, Iran unveils nuclear weapons, begins Cold War part 2 (except Iranian leaders are bat shit crazy and will launch), US either stands down and emboldens Iran or calls the bluff and....
What The hell is a former Marine/US citizen doing developing videogames in Iran.
Oh and Also.. -> Iran and the Us are having beef over the oil transport n what not.. This probably has something to do with it.. Now Iran has leverage: "keep your ships out and we´ll give you back your guy"
Worst case scenario- Iran kills him, US declares war, Iran unveils nuclear weapons, begins Cold War part 2 (except Iranian leaders are bat shit crazy and will launch), US either stands down and emboldens Iran or calls the bluff and....
I'm confused, did you quote the wrong part of my post? This is the section where I say what the worst case scenario for the world is. Or are you implying that SOPA is worse than a nuclear war?
Also I would just like to point out that my opinion of SOPA is worth just as much, or more, than yours is. I only say "or more" because I don't know if you are in the US and have voting rights or not. However, I know I am in the US and I do have voting rights. Both of those things makes my opinion pretty important.
So, basically Iran is being Iran. But did I read that right that they aren't allowing him to speak to foreign counsel? That's just wrong. I know the U.S. will not enter the country, but Sweden has always represented U.S. interests there. Why aren't they being allowed to speak to this man?
ReinWeisserRitter said:
I feel badly for the guy, as our government is shady and lacking in credibility at best, and horrendously manipulative and self-serving at worst. While he probably felt he was doing the right thing, he was probably convinced to do it just to further some asshole's political agenda, not the greater good.
I'd like to be wrong, of course, but it's not where I'd put my money if I were a betting type.
You realize that claim is being made by Iran, right? A country that isn't exactly the most honest or trustworthy, right? I mean more so than usual. Iran is known to create false confessions. If fact...
Combustion Kevin said:
I have a penpall (well, e-mail, youknowwhatImean) in Iran who pretty much shares my opinion on this matter.
this is getting pretty ridiculous.
the irony is, a lot of people there find this case fishy, many think he's innocent but nobody is gonna protest this out of fear for a violent crackdown.
and if the shit hits the fan, the ones who've been pulling the strings are the last who will pay for it.
This. Even the Iranian people find this fishy. It's almost like they have reason to distrust their government. You know like, fixing an election and then violently cracking down on the populace and jailing large numbers of people who protested it for months on end.
Avae said:
A Former US Marine who has links with the CIA and he skips onto a plane and flies to Iran?
What the heck was he thinking? This is the same as those US campers who ended up hiking into Iran from IRAQ................... Like really, what goes through these peoples heads? This is real life, not a TV show.
First, the allegations of links to the CIA are being made by Iran. I would bet money that if Joe Q. Public entered Iran, he would be picked up and charged with espionage and accused of having connections to the CIA. Just because, according to Iran, every American is working for the CIA. Makes sense, right?
Second, there was some reason to believe that the U.S. hikers were abducted from Iraq. They were very close to the Iran/Iraq border. It wouldn't have been hard to cross in and out. Personally, I think they accidentally crossed the border without realizing it and were taken into custody. The border isn't exactly marked out there.
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