Is 18 too young to be bitter?

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jspheonix

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18 is still a teenager, and teenagers are bitter. Not trying to start a flame war here but I was bitter round that age (mind you I am still only 20 xD), its the kindof 'lost innocence' stage. Truth is some people have real reasons to be bitter, everyone has at least one, but what is the point? Life is for living guys. (Did anybody else cringe from the cheese?! :D)
 

bobknowsall

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Well, if you've never really experienced much suffering, then you've no real reason to be bitter, regardless of age.
 

Jaythulhu

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Deviltongue said:
Is 18 too young he says. I was bitter by age 11. No age is too young to be bitter.
Bullshit. Pure and simple.

If you're 18, younger, or slightly older and consider yourself bitter, try going out and getting a job where you have to work 60 or more hours a week, for a boss who's got less humanity than Vader, to pay for the mortgage, rates, food, electricity, water, clothing, books, toys, trips, health insurance, school for two little shits who'd rather play video games and carry on about how much their life sucks (without a partner mind you), on top of looking after your elderly parents and dealing with the constant crap from the whinging bitching and moaning consumers who frequent your workplace.

Or ask your parents about how great their life has been since you showed up.

Then you fuckin' come back to me and tell me how "bitter and cynical" you are.
 

assassinslover

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I'm in the same boat as you, mate. I've basically been bitter since I was 17 and it's only gotten worse. It's not depression or anything like that, it's just annoyance and pessimism and not really finding enough cause to believe in the human population for various reasons.
 

loc978

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Nah. I was pretty bitter at 18. I'm a little less bitter now at 29... but only because I've grown a thicker skin since then. Now the quote reads:
"Well, I'm probably just going to get fucked over anyway... but I might as well try. Nothing better to do."
 

Retardinator

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By the time you're 18 you should realize you're not supposed to care. I stopped caring two years ago and my life has become much better since then.
 

Blondi3

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I've been bitter, cynical, and depressed most of my late teen life. It's only getting worse. It started around umm...I don't even remember tbh. I'm 21 atm. It's all I know xD
 

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at 18 your're actually in just the right spot to be bitter, you should realize that your life doesn't suck as much as you think by 20 and be totally okay by 22 or so.
 

OmniscientOstrich

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@Jaythulu: Ironic, that your statement seems to be the most actively hostile in retort to a rather generic comment. Maybe you're the one who's in more dire need of being mollified.
 

dietpeachsnapple

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Bitterness is a heuristic for perceiving the world and processing your experiences.

Sure, knock yourself out.

Do me a favor though - continue to experience the world, and continue to process your experiences.

The things you are bitter about might not always be there. Even if they are, it is better that you know WHY you are bitter, than to be bitter for some ambiguous perceivable reason.
 

Cobbs

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dastardly said:
Cobbs said:
I just realised after 18 straight hours of doing little more than read and generally be broody, i am a very bitter person deep down. The phrase "Why bother you'll just get fucked over again" has sprung to mind many a time.
Anywho my question still stands. Is their an age limit to absoloute bitterness, and if you are udner it is their something severly wrong with you?
Thoughts, Comments, Criticism's and STFU you mopey shit's are all welcome
It's just reality shock.

You start out as a child with very few worries or cares in the world... you become an adolescent that worries about all sorts of trivial things (that don't feel trivial at the time)... but you keep working because all of your learning has built a belief system into you that tells you:

1. Try hard enough, and you'll succeed.
2. Good things happen to good people.
3. "Fairness" is a real thing, and someone out there is keeping tabs on it.

We're taught this by our parents and teachers, by the stories we read, and just by the nature of our simple and uninformed existence as children. Then we become "adults," in the technical sense.

And we quickly realize that those rules? They're highly suspect. Sometimes trying hard doesn't guarantee success. Sometimes good things don't happen at all, and sometimes bad things happen to good people. And fairness? Yeah. It only exists if it's enforced, and it's only selectively enforced--usually by those people in power whom fairness most benefits at that particular moment.

It's not that the world is all bad. It's that when we first discover the world really isn't all good, there's a bit of shock and disappointment. Now, we all know, academically, that the world isn't all good... but it's another thing to experience it. Shifting your image of the world from "perfect" to "imperfect" is a much bigger leap than it sounds. There's a big difference between 99% and 100%. That 1% is a sudden, stark realization that there could even be other things that don't line up with what we believed (or want to believe) about life, and we're suddenly facing the unknown and feeling ill-equipped to handle it.

You've been staring your whole life at this magical gate leading to Adulthood, which we equate to the power of self-determination. When we're grown-ups, it'll mean we've arrived. You'll call the shots, do what you like, follow your dreams, all of that. Then you finally get to the gate and realize there's an admission fee... and normal business hours... and the rides you want to ride are really, really crowded, and sometimes they're broken... and just getting a goddamned drink is like, what, eight bucks?

Point is, if you give that shock a chance to wear off, it gets better.
You should be a motivational speaker of some description. :D
 

Carlston

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I started that at 15.

Best to learn quick, you might get dicked over so do it anyway. Get as much fun out of it as possible. Get over failure quick and have fun. You'll be lot more bitter at 30 looking back at wasted time.

Life gives ya a lot of shit, best thing is don't stare at the pile, shovel it in a bag throw it away and go on to the next adventure. See life like a Jay and Silent Bob movie and just try and stay happy.
 

Digital_Hero

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Shit happens to everybody bro, doesn't have an age restriction.
i've been cynically bitter towards people in general for years, so your doing just fine.

normally i'd say chin up, but your bitter already so ill just say life will continue on in the same fashion it always does: By fucking someone :D

that someone occasionally being you..... Or me..... Or a small, fat child in the states. At once.
 

Dastardly

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Cobbs said:
You should be a motivational speaker of some description. :D
Heh, I don't really know that anything I said would be particularly... motivating. But I appreciate it just the same. I'm creeping toward thirty, so I guess around here that qualifies me as a "mean old man." But yeah, once you get over the initial shock of the world's many inconsistencies, you'll start to find the good stuff.

If I could offer one bit of more motivational advice? Don't let your career path define you. The biggest lie we're told growing up is that we've got to get a job "doing what we love," which leads us to the next lie: We must love our jobs. When we don't, it's like hitting 18 all over again, and we think the whole world's a big fat lie.

Get a job you can do well. Maybe one that you enjoy sometimes (but you won't love it every day). Do the shit out of that job, and then when the day is done, go home. Take off the hat, watch some TV, play some video games. Don't live the job. This cycle of job dissatisfaction is, I suspect, behind most of the bitterness that continues to grow in people after adulthood.

My personal goal, whenever someone asks me 'what I do for a living,' is to say, "I live. My job is what I do for money."
 

Spy_Guy

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18, you say...

Do you have ambitions?

If yes, then that's it. You're surrounded by people with lower ambitions than you, and you can feel their weight pulling you down and preventing you from achieving your goals. This makes you a bitter and hateful person.
When you've ditched those people you'll begin to heal and be more at peace with the world.

That's my experience, at least.
 

T8B95

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To quote Wikiquote, "A cynic is someone who takes off the rose-coloured glasses, snaps them in half, and has their vision immeasurably improved as a result."

I describe myself as a cynic rather than being bitter, because calling myself a cynic has a cool and alternative feel to it, while calling myself bitter makes me sound like a whiny little tosser.

I'm 15, by the way. Never to early to sell your soul, in my opinion.