Is anyone defending EA at this point?

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Little Gray

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I dont really see the point. While I think they are a really great company the type of person who bases EA with delusional, entitled and idiotic comments are not worth the time of day. You are more likely to get an intelligent response out of the toaster then them.
 

krazykidd

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Can't i hate EA in peace without people telling me i'm wrong?

OT: yeah people defend EA , koodos for them . EA has become to anti consumer that i don't care anymore . People will do what they want with their money , i am not giving mine to EA or anyone EA IS associated with anymore .
 

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Lily Venus said:
Insomuch as when people make delusional, entitled, or lazily-researched complaints against them, yes.
That's rich considering that it's coming from the same guy who's trying (and failing) to defend Mass Effect 3 ending. And you keep doing the same thing over and over again. You keep calling actual arguments delusional, entitled and lazily-researched etc. without once providing a logical counter argument. And you still can't grasp the fact that you're actually supporting something that is not in your best interest as a consumer. It baffles me.
 

TrevHead

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EA needs defending as much as Starbucks or McDonalds.

Although some ppl are over zealous in hating them, I myself am done with EA games so I no longer care anymore.
 

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afroebob said:
ResonanceSD said:
Yup, SimCity works perfectly well now. =\ I was playing it for about 6 hours in a row last night.
Granted, saying there shit that was broken isn't broken anymore isn't a very good defense. They released a game that didn't work and they knew it wouldn't work long before it was released. Hell, even we knew it wouldn't work. So ya, fuck EA and anyone else who makes always online DRM and doesn't make it so you can't always be online.

Anyways, the only people who seriously defend EA as whole is either ignorant or idiotic. Ya, some things they do I might defend but 99% of it no, I don't and neither should anyone else.
After maxis have improved servers

Note "maxis" not "ea"

Because it was maxis who decided that cloud computing would underpin SimCity 5

all performance issues have been cleared up.

Here's 11 minutes of gameplay that I recorded this morning


As you can see, it's all fine.


If you lose connection to the server, you don't get booted out, you run the game locally.
 

lacktheknack

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Only when they deserve it.

Which is increasingly often.

Not because they're doing anything better, but because people are actually idiotic enough to vote them "Worst Company in America" over, say, the Bank of America. That's just headdeskworthy.
 

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I'll defend EA when they're being unfairly picked on, and that happens A LOT on this site and others. I admit they have done some bad things, but it is infuriating to see people become so hate-filled with the company that ANYTHING they do is deemed bad. Sure DRM is bad, but they're trying to stop piracy, which is a bad thing, and while DRM hasn't worked in the past that doesn't mean they should just give up. I also defended them with the Mass Effect 3 ending as quite a lot of people were blaming them for something that they literaly had no control over. I also defended them when people were wrongly accusing them of cutting the development time short for ME3, when in reality they extended the release date.

So yeah, EA aren't an angel, but they are definately not the devil.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
afroebob said:
ResonanceSD said:
Yup, SimCity works perfectly well now. =\ I was playing it for about 6 hours in a row last night.
Granted, saying there shit that was broken isn't broken anymore isn't a very good defense. They released a game that didn't work and they knew it wouldn't work long before it was released. Hell, even we knew it wouldn't work. So ya, fuck EA and anyone else who makes always online DRM and doesn't make it so you can't always be online.

Anyways, the only people who seriously defend EA as whole is either ignorant or idiotic. Ya, some things they do I might defend but 99% of it no, I don't and neither should anyone else.
After maxis have improved servers

Note "maxis" not "ea"

Because it was maxis who decided that cloud computing would underpin SimCity 5
Don't worry, Maxis is at fault too. I just didn't feel it was necessary to show how much of douches they were about it too. Either way, EA is still culpable because:

1. They own Maxis, so Maxis' bad decisions are EA's bad decisions
2. It was the servers that EA owned that failed

Either way EA sucks, Maxis sucks. I don't care if Simcity is fun when it works, I couldn't really give anything resembling a shit at this point because their scum business practices of putting DRM onto a game (I don't know if the always online adds to the experience or not, I'm just going to call it how I see it) and making it so the DRM breaks the game that means they have sold you a broken product, which is akin to stealing. Now I can forgive them if this was just a huge shocker and that nobody could have ever seen this coming but everyone knew! Every single person at EA, at Maxis and who bought the game knew that the servers would be broken at launch and they were all right.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
After maxis have improved servers

Note "maxis" not "ea"

Because it was maxis who decided that cloud computing would underpin SimCity 5
They're the same company and the same entity.
 

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I like the developers under EA, but I don't defend EA's actions or business practices when they are retarded. They make a bunch of game series I like and I will continue to support those series if the games are of good quality.
 

jpoon

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They're easily one of the most anti-consumer gaming companies out there. Nothing more needs to be known about them. Stop buying their shit and they will go away.
 

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I don't criticise EA, mostly because I don't buy their products (Mass Effect being the exception). If EA started coming to my house and forcing me to play games like SimCity I might start complaining.

Though they did make me download and install Origin to play ME3 so I'm mad at them for that.
 

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shrekfan246 said:
I don't like EA's business practices, and they've given tons of legitimate reasons for people to criticize them, but the hate has quite frankly reached some illogical singularity at this point. People are latching onto any "bad" reports they can to try and bad-mouth EA even further, even when it turns out those reports were completely fake or taken out of context and thus mean nothing like what the people imply. I find it ridiculous.
Very true. I remember seeing one guy complain that the Origin customer support gave him some discount vouchers. He'd bought a game right before it went on sale and was outraged that they'd given him vouchers instead of giving him the game for the sale price "like Steam would.".

They didn't have to give him anything, that was a fantastic example of good customer service, to be frank. I really hope I'd just been Poe'd.

EA do some shitty things, but people treat them like monsters that can do no right and must never be forgiven.
That annoyed me to no end, I wanted to smack the entitled brat over the back of the head for that. EA aren't perfect, but their not an evil villain. Their a corporation trying to make money and balance customer satisfaction, and its not easy. I may not like all their games and hate some of their decisions, but that doesn't make them evil. Just stupid and greedy at times.
 

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aguspal said:
Well I dont hate them, Actually I kinda like them because they are comedian, they make me laugh hard at times, and thats more than what I can say about certain OTHER horrible companies (Definitivly not talking about BIOWARE, I promise! really...).


They are really like an interwebz troll or a villian in a kid´s show, they make people RAGE hard, and, really, at a certain point or another I would rather side with them than the people who complain about EVERY SINGLE THING they do, for (at times, not always) no reason at all other than because its cool to hate them. Like the people who hate on COD for really, REALLY petty reasons. So, again, I rather side with them than with these complainers.

Plus, they CHALLENGE EVERYTHING after all... so yeah.


Also I recently played Dead Space 3 an its an awesome game, better than 1 or 2 but EA haters just strike again and AGAIN, good thing I am not blind like them because WOW... (Not saying than the game dosnt have its troubles, and if you dont like it for legit reasons than its ok)
So you would rather side with a corporation who really does'nt give a damn about you(almost all corporations don't)because you don't like the people who complain about them?Good on you personally I don't see the point in defending or hating EA they don't give a fuck if you hate them or defend them they only care about making money.

I always laugh when I see people white knighting or leading witch hunts against these corporations because they don't realize the people they are defending or hating on don't really care if they hate them or not.
Pretty much this... They dont give a flying s*** about anything or anyone except money!

So for me I am cool with it, I enjoy the games they get the money. Case closed.

Its still fun to have some people argue about it, thougt.
 

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I'm not going to exaggerate any wrong doing they've done to me (in recent years), because I didn't buy their 'service' this time around.
So I'm just kinda sitting here drinking my tea and watching the usual chaos revolving that heinous publisher unfold.

Honestly it's kinda fun watching them shit on more generations of gamers. Surely their trust mountain must be the consistency of gram crackers by now and a stone thrown at it will send it crumbling to the ground. If not well...

I can only continue to sit here and hope more developers will leave them or stay far away, so they can just muddle in their recycled frat-persons franchises.
 

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Absolutionis said:
ResonanceSD said:
After maxis have improved servers

Note "maxis" not "ea"

Because it was maxis who decided that cloud computing would underpin SimCity 5
They're the same company and the same entity.

Yes, what you're missing is that people who make decisions for a publisher aren't the ones who make decisions on the development side. Are you saying that the pubs wore a disguise, crept into a dev meeting and said "CLOUD COMPUTING IS A THING WE MUST DO"?
 

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Also realize there's a difference between merely defending, versus understanding the reasons behind the game dev process or a design decision. We don't necessarily agree with the decision, but at least we understand it, and support the developers on making a game how they want.

Doesn't help there's always a lot of misinformation going around though, and no one ever seems to fact-check and verify before posting.

And of course, just because they don't make a game how YOU want, doesn't necessarily make it a bad game either.
 

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bug_of_war said:
Sure DRM is bad, but they're trying to stop piracy, which is a bad thing, and while DRM hasn't worked in the past that doesn't mean they should just give up.
They should if the only methods they can come up with involve taking that abuse and turning it around to burden their legitimate customers.