Is "c***" just a replacement for "f*****?"

[Dizchu]

"Cuck" is alt-right shorthand for "someone that isn't a complete nihilist piece of shit like me".

I mean it's true though, isn't it? It's a term used against anyone that shows any empathy for others because these people have such a cynical "trust nobody" view of the world that any behaviour that isn't based on prejudice and the desire to be the edgiest ************ around falls short of their image of what a "cool dude" is.

I'd say that they're hedonists that care about nothing but self-gratification if it weren't for the fact that they're often extremely repressed and in need of the validation of their anonymous peers. Which of course is beyond pathetic.

 

[Kolby Jack]

I'm surprised you can use the word bundle of sticks outside the wild west

I'm not using it in a derogatory fashion, so I don't see the harm. Just a discussion of the word itself.

First and foremost, you're all a bunch of fa-wait... this ISN'T a WW thread?!?! What the fuck?

Yeah, Silent Pony summed it up. But I like to add something on the word fag/******:

Fag stopped being a slur towards homosexuals and become it's own honorific or something. Especially in places like 4chan.

Examples include:
Drawfag
Writefag
Animiefag
Touhoufag
Techfag
Eurofag
'Muricanfag
Canadafag
Newfag
Oldfag
Straightfag
Cisfag

and many, many more.

OP is straight.

What a fucking straightfag, am I right? I bet he's a CISfag as well!

I mean, ya got me there. But I think there's a distinction between "fag" as you're using it and "******," which I've only ever seen used as a derogatory term for a gay person (or a bundle of sticks). Language is funny that way sometimes. But I admit, I've never been to 4chan, because... well, I don't ever want to go to 4chan. The bits of it that leak to other parts of the web are all I need to see to know I want nothing to do with it.

 

[Glongpre]

Wow, yea, I never realized it has replaced fag as the go to insult. Haha, oh humans.

It is so dumb as well. All though, calling someone a bundle of sticks is pretty stupid as well.

I would rather they just go back to fag though. Give me some insult nostalgia.

The worst is when adults say this shit though. Like do you realize what you are saying? or what you sound like? Such elementary school shit. Grow the fuck up.

 

[Smithnikov_v1legacy]

Uh this is something people like Phil Leotardo says for a LONG Time now:

Ummm, but it's only recently I've been hearing ELEMENTARY school kids say it. Something's up...

 

[Smithnikov_v1legacy]

"Cuck" is alt-right shorthand for "someone that isn't a complete nihilist piece of shit like me".

I mean it's true though, isn't it? It's a term used against anyone that shows any empathy for others because these people have such a cynical "trust nobody" view of the world that any behaviour that isn't based on prejudice and the desire to be the edgiest ************ around falls short of their image of what a "cool dude" is.

SEE ALSO: "White Knight", "hugbox" and of course, "SJW"

 

[Smithnikov_v1legacy]

So we're like the Chaos Gods of WW?

if some alt right cult are the fill ins for Chaos, then I for one welcome the Exterminatus...

 

[Gethsemani_v1legacy]

I mean, ya got me there. But I think there's a distinction between "fag" as you're using it and "******," which I've only ever seen used as a derogatory term for a gay person (or a bundle of sticks). Language is funny that way sometimes. But I admit, I've never been to 4chan, because... well, I don't ever want to go to 4chan. The bits of it that leak to other parts of the web are all I need to see to know I want nothing to do with it.

It is also worth keeping in mind that most subcultures put their own values and sentiments into words. Just because some types of "fag" is a term of endearment on the Chans, that does not mean that fag or ****** are accepted words in broader society. For a more prevalent example, consider how some groups of afroamericans can use the word ****** as a sign of affection and kinship, and how completely wrong it'd be if a white person tried to do the same.

 

[The Lunatic]

Well, fag has kinda become a non-insult.

I mean, I'm gay myself, and it's a word I use towards gay friends, and they use it back. I guess in some ways, it's kinda been taken back by the gay community, and in general has just lost a lot of the impact it used to have.

Kinda like "Queer", I guess.

Cuck though, is just sorta a generic catch-all seemingly aimed at leftists for lacking masculinity, or any ability to defend what's theirs.

It's not really a very logical insult, but, then again, they never are.

Calling somebody an asshole, does not literally mean they are an asshole.

Likewise, motherfuckers are a lot rarer than the usage would have you believe.

And so on.

 

[Smithnikov_v1legacy]

So being anti-authoritarian is now nihilist?

The alt right? Anti authoritarian? That's a good one.

You can still love someone with views you find shitty and understand that those views don't invalidate the other good stuff about them.

Matter of degrees.

Someone who, say, thinks the Republicans have the right idea bout healthcare and taxes, yea, I can still easily maintain relationships with and call a friend. Someone who, however says things like "Gas the Jews and the Queers" no, I don't want to know someone like that.

Anyhow, you can think the people that use the term are all empathy-free monsters who get hard spreading hate.

They do a pretty good job making the case for us. Besides, msot of those people don't care to know us pitiful SJW libtard cuckold autistics, so I fail to see the problem. They hate us. We hate them.

However, denigrating your ideological opponents is great for arguing and vilifying but not so great for coming to any position of understanding.

Did you ever think that maybe we do it for some people because we don't WANT to come to a position of understanding, nor do they? There are plenty of people that, if you extend an olive branch to them, they'll simply stab you in the eye with it and call you a ******.

 

[Dizchu]

So being anti-authoritarian is now nihilist?

Come on now, these people are not anti-authoritarian. They tend to support Donald Trump and reactionary movements against LGBT people, ethnic minorities, non-Christian religions, the poor and so on. They like to paint themselves as "anti-authoritarian" but the "authoritarianism" they're fighting against is usually just a wild conspiracy theory. "But political correctness has gone mad!" they say when they get banned off a service for violating the terms of service or when some obscure foreign game nobody cares about doesn't get localised. Meanwhile the authoritarianism they support puts lives at risk, be it the pro-life movement (heh), restrictions against LGBT people, support for racial profiling etc.

Isn't insulting them for the validation of your peers (or just to ***** about them) equally pathetic? (And of course me pointing it out adds to a recursive patheticness that you can recurse further by calling this out. It seems like two groups misunderstanding each other and feeling unjustifiably superior to each other.

Well you can call it pathetic all you want but I don't really care. Not saying that your opinion means nothing, I mean I don't have much personal investment in how online forum users view me especially if they are anonymous. It seems to me that a lot of this hyper-reactionary nihilism comes from a desire to fit in, you can see it whenever someone disagrees even slightly they get called an "SJW cuck". I mean this happened to me when an anti-SJW group I was a part of dogpiled me for suggesting that random overweight people on the internet shouldn't be publicly mocked just because they had the audacity to share photos of themselves with friends.

In addition to that see the popularity of Milo Yiannopoulos. His popularity relies almost entirely on his ability to "not give a fuck" and it makes me wonder if he and the rest of the alt-right are sincere in what they say or if they just want to stir shit. I mean having a counter-cultural response to nagging leftists is one thing, but when you end up supporting right-wing authoritarians as a result it's suddenly not as funny.

 

[maninahat]

Yes, in that it's a lazy word thrown around by idiots who can't come up with something clever. Any insult that suggests the other guy is sissy or effeminate is as old as dirt, and cuck has just become the popular one. People quickly realise that a particular insult just shows the person saying it is thick and insecure (like those who use "******"), and even they eventually catch up, and resolve to find a new word.

The easy way to beat these insults is to say that you are fine with being gay, poly, or feminine.

 

[maninahat]

So, basically, any dude who has ever watched straight porn..

It might sound like I'm kidding or being deliberately obtuse, but I'm deadly serious. If watching other people fuck is humiliating because you're not actually doing it yourself, why is it okay to squeeze one out watching impossibly gorgeous people in San Fernando simulate sex acts you'll probably never be able to do even if they were actually enjoyable in real life? Why is that less humiliating, perverse or pathetic?

Sex-negativity is a double edged sword..

Dudes who watch porn, which is all dudes

Implying Woman don't like porn aswell.

Its called fanfiction and its full of Gay Slash Fiction written and read mostly by Females.

Also My Immortal was a fanfic full of sex scenes and the filth of a fanfic was writter by a very emo girl.

More implying that any dude who says they don't watch porn is lying. I think it was Harvard that tried to do a porn vs no porn study of men, and couldn't find a single man who didn't watch porn.

Of course I have seen that stuff and have no shame. I love women.

Spoiler: its tame and its a youtube vid don't worry

Oh my, 15 year old me would have loved that. Now I just watch Helen Mirren movies.

 

[Programmed_For_Damage]

I was under the impression that 'Cuck' referred to a man who found sexual appeal in watching another man sexually satisfy a female. Such as a man masturbate to watching another man with a larger dick fuck his wife and bring her more sexual pleasure than he ever did. Someone who finds sexual satisfaction in reveling in his own sexual dissatisfaction. Its a very unique subset of the Domination scene. Men who get off to the idea people don't want to have sex with them

That's the modern definition I believe. It is derived from cuckold, which is a guy whose wife/girlfriend is having an affair. It was used in a few Shakespearean plays that I can think of.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I was under the impression that 'Cuck' referred to a man who found sexual appeal in watching another man sexually satisfy a female. Such as a man masturbate to watching another man with a larger dick fuck his wife and bring her more sexual pleasure than he ever did. Someone who finds sexual satisfaction in reveling in his own sexual dissatisfaction. Its a very unique subset of the Domination scene. Men who get off to the idea people don't want to have sex with them

That's the modern definition I believe. It is derived from cuckold, which is a guy whose wife/girlfriend is having an affair. It was used in a few Shakespearean plays that I can think of.

Much Ado about Nothing. Beatrice was talking about dying unmarried and how basically she had turned the Devil into a cuckold by not having sex with anyone.

 

[springheeljack]

Yeah basically it's just another way for weak spinless men to shit on other men for perceived slights that only exist within themselves

 

[UberGott]

I like to think of "Cuck" as the less complicated permutation of "******": It implies a measurable lack of masculinity and confidence, and unlike homosexuality it doesn't carry with it any of the religious or historical baggage. The fact that "Cuck" sounds like a mix of 'cock' and 'fuck' makes it doubly fun to say, too. I don't think we'd have seen it take off as it has in certain circles had it not been simultaneously a specific, masculinity-robbing insult and sounded like two of the naughtier words the English language has been hiding in plan sight for a good long time - it's like a fragment grenade of an insult, being familiar sounding and having a far more specific meaning than, say, Fuccboi ever had.

By the same measure, ****** isn't useful as an insult anymore anyway - let's face it, in the circles that love the term "cuck", the word "fag" is roughly as common a sentence particle in English as 'desu' is in Japanese. South Park opined years ago how language evolves and means different things, using "fag" to mean an annoying jerk, rather than a homosexual. This is the completely natural (if oddly displaced) result of using a taboo word to the point of it no longer creating a reaction in people; if we're all faggots, being a ****** ceases to be an insult.

Which means, eventually, being a cuck will be rendered meaningless as well. Pity. The Game Grumps dedicated half an episode to discussing it, and I figure at this rate it's about a year until something on normalfag TV uses it, rendering its' use as a powerful and exciting new insult completely moot*.

Ask not what the insult of is - ask what the insult of <current year +1> will be!

(*How could I forget? We also saw a dramatic uptick in the term specifically because Chris "Moot" Poole was deemed quite the cuck himself.)

 

[WindKnight]

I was under the impression that 'Cuck' referred to a man who found sexual appeal in watching another man sexually satisfy a female. Such as a man masturbate to watching another man with a larger dick fuck his wife and bring her more sexual pleasure than he ever did. Someone who finds sexual satisfaction in reveling in his own sexual dissatisfaction. Its a very unique subset of the Domination scene. Men who get off to the idea people don't want to have sex with them

That's the modern definition I believe. It is derived from cuckold, which is a guy whose wife/girlfriend is having an affair. It was used in a few Shakespearean plays that I can think of.

The main one I think of is Othello, where the (black) title character is tricked into thinking his wife has cheated on him, which makes me wonder if that's where the racial aspect of the fetish came from.

Suffice to say, with that literally being the only place I encountered the word (in high school no less), my reaction to its use as an insult is 'my days of not taking you seriously have come to a middle'

 

[Hazy992]

The term cuck has lost all meaning, I saw somebody on /toy/ call a YouTube reviewer a 'cat cuck' either because he owns a cat or because his cat wanders into his videos now and then. Like I don't even know where to begin with that one.