Is "c***" just a replacement for "f*****?"

[Kolby Jack]

"Cuck" is a new term based on an old word (cuckold) that basically insults a man's masculinity. Now, if I recall correctly, about 10-15 years ago, the insult that used to do that was "******." Obviously times have changed, but clearly some people have not, so using the word "******" to insult someone or even just using it in general can carry serious social repercussions, even get you fired.

Obviously it's also an incredibly immoral thing to say, but something tells me the guys who throw "cuck" around today are not using the other word because they know it's wrong, but because they're scared of those repercussions (like... cucks, ironically). From there, is it safe to assume that someone who unironically uses the work "cuck" to insult someone may as well be calling them a "******?"

I'm starting to think so, especially since so far I've only seen the term used by internet trolls. Not the kind that just spews unrefined vitriol in every direction; they'll use any word as long as they know it can hurt someone somehow. I mean the trolls who try to appear like civilized, everyday people, but still spew hatred in such a way that it's not immediately obvious to everyone that they're a hateful/bored moron.

Mod edit: Swearing is not permitted in thread titles

Me edit: Is cuck a swear word?

 

[Saelune]

I dont scour the reaches of the internet, so I dont see all this cuck talk. Im not doubting you, just looking for some elaboration where this happens? (And can know places to avoid)

I can definatly see it happening though. Insults and slurs, like anything has its fads. Im certainly glad though that ****** and "thats gay" have mostly fallen out of use though. We need to just make insults and slurs that are offensive on their own, without belittling any groups of people beyond whoever you are currently throwing the insult at.

 

[Gethsemani_v1legacy]

From my understanding the word "cuck" (ugly, stupid word, by the way) originated with the vitriolic parts of the alt-right, Men's Rights Activists and Pick Up Artists. They all picked up on the word around the same time and originally used it to insult a man that either was a feminist or who they felt let feminists walk all over them. Since this was a man that allowed women power over him, he was obviously a cuck.

The word cuck has since spread out into gamer culture, no doubt because the more vitriolic parts of gamer culture has a fairly large degree of overlap with the alt-right and MRAs. Today, as the OP points out, it just seems to be a generic insult.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I was under the impression that 'Cuck' referred to a man who found sexual appeal in watching another man sexually satisfy a female. Such as a man masturbate to watching another man with a larger dick fuck his wife and bring her more sexual pleasure than he ever did. Someone who finds sexual satisfaction in reveling in his own sexual dissatisfaction. Its a very unique subset of the Domination scene. Men who get off to the idea people don't want to have sex with them

****** just means gay. Dude who likes dick. Nuff said.

 

[Kolby Jack]

I was under the impression that 'Cuck' referred to a man who found sexual appeal in watching another man sexually satisfy a female. Such as a man masturbate to watching another man with a larger dick fuck his wife and bring her more sexual pleasure than he ever did. Someone who finds sexual satisfaction in reveling in his own sexual dissatisfaction. Its a very unique subset of the Domination scene. Men who get off to the idea people don't want to have sex with them

****** just means gay. Dude who likes dick. Nuff said.

You're correct, in that that is the technical definition. But context, as ever, matters more than technical definitions. The way the word is used reaches well beyond simple fetish talk.

I dont scour the reaches of the internet, so I dont see all this cuck talk. Im not doubting you, just looking for some elaboration where this happens? (And can know places to avoid)

I can definatly see it happening though. Insults and slurs, like anything has its fads. Im certainly glad though that ****** and "thats gay" have mostly fallen out of use though. We need to just make insults and slurs that are offensive on their own, without belittling any groups of people beyond whoever you are currently throwing the insult at.

I mostly see it in youtube comments and on twitter, usually on stuff that has to do with politics. Gethsemani hit the origins right on, but something tells me the word will stick around well after the election to be used by assholes to harass people online.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Isn't it a term for traitor?

The context it is used is one where someone sells out his own to get screwed, so, a traitor. It has nothing to do with masculinity outside of the fact that betrayal of what one ought protect and its subsequent rationalization is I guess not very masculine.

 

[FalloutJack]

Well, since I never heard it before and probably never will again, I'm going to say no.

 

[Raddra]

The only place I have seen the word thrown around is youtube comments.

So.. really, don't change standard internet practice: avoid youtube comments.

 

[Terminal Blue]

Isn't it a term for traitor?

Nope.

It's short for "cuckold", which is an archaic insult/term to describe the husband of a woman who has committed adultery. Cuckolds were often imbued with stag-like properties and described as having (metaphorical) horns. The insulting gesture of putting two fingers up behind someone's head (without their knowledge) is meant to symbolise the horns of the cuckold and originally implied that the person doing the gesture had slept with the recipients wife.

Spoiler: Example

For some reason, in the modern world "cuckolding" became the preferred term for a sexual fetish where people voluntarily seek out or allow other people to sleep with their sexual partners for the purposes of their own sexual enjoyment. This fetish is commonly referenced in both gay and straight male-focused porn scenarios. Of note is that mainstream porn has a tendency to racialize cuckolding by casting black men, in particular, as third parties for white "couples" (indeed, some people now assume that cuckolding is automatically interracial). Porn also, for reasons which I suspect are not entirely separate from the previous observation, tends to over-emphasize the importance of humiliation as the motive for the act. I suspect this is because most men who consume cuckolding porn will never actually engage in it themselves but rather are enjoying the idea of someone else being humiliated.

As I understand it, the reason it became such a thing for internet anti-feminists and the alt-right is because some of those people noticed that a few notable male internet pro-feminists are openly polyamorous and decided that this was symptomatic of their own personal failure as men. It combines the implication that someone is sexually submissive, that they are perverse and sexually dysfunctional and that they are race-traitors. There are, no doubt, people who use the word without understanding this, just as there are people who use "******" and think it's cool because they aren't using it specifically to refer to queer people. Of course, like ******, "cuck" still references the percieved negative attributes of the people to whom it was originally used to insult.

Erasing the history of a word is possible, but it takes time, and is far more than a matter of individual will.

I was under the impression that 'Cuck' referred to a man who found sexual appeal in watching another man sexually satisfy a female.

So, basically, any dude who has ever watched straight porn..

It might sound like I'm kidding or being deliberately obtuse, but I'm deadly serious. If watching other people fuck is humiliating because you're not actually doing it yourself, why is it okay to squeeze one out watching impossibly gorgeous people in San Fernando simulate sex acts you'll probably never be able to do even if they were actually enjoyable in real life? Why is that less humiliating, perverse or pathetic?

Sex-negativity is a double edged sword..

 

[Barbas]

It's a useful indicator. If someone uses it, you know you don't have to treat them seriously at all. You may also be on Reddit or the chans. It's about as typically petty, malicious and stupid as "******"...in fact, I think it's probably worse.

 

[bartholen_v1legacy]

Well kind of. I think the difference is that cuck has a more specific meaning, at least in some parts. You could call someone a "fag" for liking anime for example, but not a cuck. "Cucking oneself" to my understanding means bending under pressure, giving in to outside demands, whatever they may be. The ways I've seen the word being used would point to the direction that being called a "cuck" implies weakness, lack of willpower and confidence, and an inability to stand by one's principles or a total lack of principles altogether. Based on this an example would be someone who calls themselves a feminist and agrees with everything they say just because it's their only way of getting closer to women.

But of course the word is used by mindless fuckwit drones who just parrot anything their circlejerk overlords blurt out, so it basically means jack shit.

 

[bastardofmelbourne]

The meaning of the word has been explained here already, but yes, in the scenarios you describe it's basically just a new way of calling someone a ******.

The intended meaning, with both insults, is to denigrate the other party's masculinity. The actual meaning that gets transmitted is "I'm insecure about my girlfriend cheating on me with a more attractive man."

These kinds of insults have been around forever. Like, there's ancient Roman graffiti about how Flavius Biggus Dickus takes it in the cloaca. That's how old this is. It'll never really go away, because people are dumb.

 

[Dragonlayer]

I don't know about exact replacement per se, but it's definitely as stupid as "******" and whenever I hear someone use it unironically to insult someone else, I picture the same kind of desperately insecure twat as those who uttered "fucking fag" every time they opened their mouth.

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I've always wondered, what's the symbolism of the horns? Do stags have trouble holding onto their females during mating season or something?

 

[Level 7 Dragon]

From my understanding the word "cuck" (ugly, stupid word, by the way) originated with the vitriolic parts of the alt-right, Men's Rights Activists and Pick Up Artists.

Just a small correction, MRA's arn't alt-right. People tend to confuse MRA's and MGTOWS and Tradcons, since all of them talk about musculinity. MRA's think that feminism hasn't done enough to help men, while MGTOWS and Tradcons think that feminism should't have happened and that a return to traditional gender norms is nessesary.

 

[McElroy]

I thought the stag horns are just a visual prank when posing for photos... Disney Comics lied to me! Anyway, I don't use the word outside of "person who isn't upset that their partner sleeps around". Rarely, that is.

 

[Parasondox]

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I'm going back to bed.

 

[MrCalavera_v1legacy]

"Cuck" is a shorthand for "cuckold", which used to describe a man that allows his woman to sleep with other men.

Later it become associated with a specific sexual fetish.

Nowadays though, it's a go-to insult towards liberals/lefties or people percieved as such. It's why its often used by alt-right folk. I wouldn't call it a replacement for "******", though. "Fag", in it's current use, has a much broader meaning.

 

[Terminal Blue]

I've always wondered, what's the symbolism of the horns? Do stags have trouble holding onto their females during mating season or something?

Well, yes, stags have antlers because they fight each other for mates. Dominant males might have to defend themselves against challengers and can easily lose. That is one possible explanation, but really the insult is so old that it's impossible to say for sure where it comes from.

The intended meaning, with both insults, is to denigrate the other party's masculinity. The actual meaning that gets transmitted is "I'm insecure about my girlfriend cheating on me with a more attractive man."

Alternately, "I'm really boring to have sex with."

 

[Gethsemani_v1legacy]

Just a small correction, MRA's arn't alt-right. People tend to confuse MRA's and MGTOWS and Tradcons, since all of them talk about musculinity. MRA's think that feminism hasn't done enough to help men, while MGTOWS and Tradcons think that feminism should't have happened and that a return to traditional gender norms is nessesary.

I'm aware of the distinction and it was not my intention to lump the alt-right and the MRM together in anything other than embracing the word "cuck". I can see how my post can be misinterpreted as confounding the MRM and alt-right, which is not my intention (though I think we can both agree that there's a certain overlap in membership).