Is god kind?

[Arkhangelsk]

I like to think that God isn't a him. I like the argument to think that he might as well be a lesbian black woman. Or in my case, Morgan Freeman.

i go with genderless personally. :]

I chose Morgan Freeman cause he seems so wise. Also, I saw him in some movie where he played as God, and I stuck to that image.

 

[la-le-lu-li-lo]

Haha, It and Its work perfectly, but they're usually applied to innanimate objects or unintelligent life (except for "Who is it?" "It is I", so if I were religious I'd be uncomfortable about the connotations. That's a cultural problem though, grammatically you're completely correct and I can't but wonder why it didn't occur to me strait away.

la-le 1, Scrittore 0

ohh, well, thank you!
damn cultural phenomenons.

 

[la-le-lu-li-lo]

[I chose Morgan Freeman cause he seems so wise. Also, I saw him in some movie where he played as God, and I stuck to that image.

it's the voice. it's just, godly.

 

[Arkhangelsk]

[I chose Morgan Freeman cause he seems so wise. Also, I saw him in some movie where he played as God, and I stuck to that image.

it's the voice. it's just, godly.

No argument there.

 

[Tehpwnsauce]

Oh Christ..Please..Take a little more time in writing out these OPs..Spelling, grammar, general coherence..

I think an omnipotent being would have better things to do than glorified gardening.

Lol well at least i dont right like this:HoW aRE YUO-so as long as i don't write like that it's not a big deal

You've used lol on the escapist. Kindly die.

 

[TheMatt]

So perhaps we should gauge the reliability of that particular book on the premise that there are Unicorns out there somewhere.

dude, unicorns totally exist. they hang out with bigfoot.

duhhh.

on a more serious note, i thoroughly enjoyed reading your post.

Have you ever seen a baby Pigeon? no? That's because no one has. They do not exist... unlike unicorns.

 

[la-le-lu-li-lo]

Have you ever seen a baby Pigeon? no? That's because no one has. They do not exist... unlike unicorns.

you're so right. never thought of it before!

 

[Zombie_Fish]

This is possibly the most commonly used arguement against God existing, that he is all loving yet there is torture in the world. I don't know what the actual arguement is (Nor do I care really) but I think a logical arguement about that would the the theory of heaven, a world of peace after death. God does bring death and torture, but peace comes at the end of it.

 

[Scrittore]

Perhaps Eddie Izzard is right and God is actually James Mason. Mason was a concientious objector, which would explain God's reluctance to intervene but also gives him a firm moral stance. Better yet, God would be James Mason...

 

[Scrittore]

ohh, well, thank you!
damn cultural phenomenons.

Thank me no thankings, who is right is right. But I will claw back some dignity after my thrashing in The Great Grammer War, phenomenon's plural is ~ena!

la-le 1, Scrittore 0.25

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

If god exists, he is either apathetic or uncaring.

I always thought of god as a narcissistic entity; granting salvation in exchange for worship.

So you believe you're in a position to be judging God?

Can I just point out that "kind" is a human invention, sort of like Epicurus's philosophy?

 

[GloatingSwine]

So you believe you're in a position to be judging God?

If the bible is to be believed, we have all the same knowledge of good and evil as he does. So yes.

 

[la-le-lu-li-lo]

ohh, well, thank you!
damn cultural phenomenons.

Thank me no thankings, who is right is right. But I will claw back some dignity after my thrashing in The Great Grammer War, phenomenon's plural is ~ena!

la-le 1, Scrittore 0.25

phenomenon's plural could be phenomenons as well, look it up. also, grammar is spelled with two a's, not an a and an e.

:O sorry for that btw, couldn't help myself!

 

[slevin8989]

if he does indeed exist, i don't think he is capable of kindness or of the opposite. i don't think god would feel or even think. it [why the gender?] would simply exist. and create. and destroy, if all that 2012 nonsense ends up being true as well.

since our creation, everything that's happened has been the result of our actions, with the exception of natural disasters and weather.

free will and all that... puh.

of course this is simply how i see it, and i don't try to preach this upon others. just sharing my opinion.

Pretty much this if there is a god i would think that he wouldn't have emotions but, in the bible they usually do personify him with emotions such as vengeful and so-on. The thing is that if he's there he pretty much left us to our own devises to see what we'd do

 

[la-le-lu-li-lo]

Pretty much this if there is a god i would think that he wouldn't have emotions but, in the bible they usually do personify him with emotions such as vengeful and so-on. The thing is that if he's there he pretty much left us to our own devises to see what we'd do

yep yep. it's basically a big story-book of morals.

i think the bible has good things to say, but i don't understand the worship of it.

 

[Ghostkai]

If It exists (who says "God" has a gender?), It probably isn't full of hugs, just from reading The Old Testament.

 

[slevin8989]

Pretty much this if there is a god i would think that he wouldn't have emotions but, in the bible they usually do personify him with emotions such as vengeful and so-on. The thing is that if he's there he pretty much left us to our own devises to see what we'd do

yep yep. it's basically a big story-book of morals.

i think the bible has good things to say, but i don't understand the worship of it.

Well the worship of it is because it's just basically a big book of things you're not supposed to do. It still feels like an oxymoron to me as how the bible ask you to be a good person for the sake of being a good person but most people are just good so they can eventually go to heaven which is just self interest.

 

[Jedoro]

So you think God enjoys damning those he loves to hell?

He (allegedly) created man and decided what things were going to be sins worth damning people to hell for. In short, he is in total control of who goes to hell and why. If he didn't like doing so, he wouldn't.

I mean let's get this in perspective here, the god of the bible has been setting mankind up to fail right from the start.

Consider the garden of eden, the god of the bible creates this garden, and creates man and woman as completely naive creatures with no concept of right or wrong, and then tells them "don't eat the fruit of this one tree, or you'll die" (Note this last bit, it's important later).

Along comes the serpent, tells woman that not only will they not die, but they will gain knowledge of right and wrong. (Note that first bit, it's important later).

So they eat the fruit, and the god of the bible gets in a hissy and kicks them out.

Now, where's the problem with that? Well, it's the whole bit that before they ate the fruit, man and woman had no framework by which to judge the moral impact of their actions. They could, therefore categorically not have made a judgement that eating the fruit was wrong, because they had no concept of wrong before they ate the fruit.

The god of the bible intentionally set mankind up to fail by creating a test where the only way to understand the concept of success or failure in the test is to fail it.

Oh, and those bits I told you to remember. The god of the bible lied. The serpent told only the unvarnished truth.

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Adam and Eve ate the fruit and did not die that day, or if the story is to be believed for 900 years afterwards.

And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

The serpent was entirely truthful.

God didn't lie, because they did die. He would've been lying if he had said that they would die immediately. They died because he kicked them out of the garden for disobeying, thus removing the source of their eternal lives.

Anywho...

These are my views on the situation regarding religion, God, and whatnot:

-I follow the Ten Commandments as my primary rules. I'm not too sold on what man says about God, but I am more inclined to believe what man says that God said.

-The sixth commandment is "Thou shalt not murder." If it were no killing, God wouldn't have told his armies, "Carry this big hunk of gold (Ark of the Covenant) into battle, and I will help you own faces."

-God has taken a much less involved role in our lives because when he was there all the time for the Jews, they became spoiled brats who cried when anything and everything went wrong, and they needed to grow up, which is what he allows us to do by letting us solve most of our own problems now.

-God loves us enough to grant us free will, no matter what. He lets us make our own mistakes so that we can learn from them, and get stronger. He gives us an inclination to do good, but it's our own fault if we don't listen.

-God never says to worship him all the time to go to Heaven, he just says to accept that his son died for our sins, and that's all it takes. Then it's just a matter of trying to play nice with others.

I guess I'm kinda sorta liberal, I don't know, but what rules I do have regarding my faith are unwavering, so there's my two cents on this thread.

 

[GloatingSwine]

God didn't lie, because they did die. He would've been lying if he had said that they would die immediately. They died because he kicked them out of the garden for disobeying, thus removing the source of their eternal lives.

in the day that thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die

It's fairly damn specific. Dead within one day. Didn't happen, even according to the story.

No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means

 

[la-le-lu-li-lo]

Well the worship of it is because it's just basically a big book of things you're not supposed to do. It still feels like an oxymoron to me as how the bible ask you to be a good person for the sake of being a good person but most people are just good so they can eventually go to heaven which is just self interest.

oh my god, thank you!
you're the first person i've met, other than myself, that has this belief.

how are you a good person if you're just doing it out of fear or self interest? what crap!