Is Hitting A Girl All That Bad?

[funguy2121]

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I've been asked what I would do if I were in the same situation again (ex used to get really physical - leaving claw marks that would last for months, throwing fists, trying and occasionally succeeding in pulling hair out of my head). If it happened again, I'd apologize, try to share blame but, failing that, accept all of it, wait for her to go to work, then either change the locks and notify the landlord or grab all of my shit and move, depending on how dangerous/stalkerish she and her friends are. No exceptions.

Where you live is also important. I was sharing the above with a co-worker, and she said that she had a drinking problem and had recently assaulted her fiance's friend at a golf tournament, and that the police had had to pull her off of him (he didn't touch her once; remember, this is all HER point of view); that he was placed on charges of assault, that SHE tried to reverse while trying to turn herself in, and that the police and the courts both told her that she was the victim. I live in Texas; if your province/state is anything like mine, you don't ever want to be in a physical fight with a woman for any reason, ever.

 

[DarthScorpio11]

again we aren't talking about the average male. We are talking about a smaller weak man trying to hold his ground after being attacked....

So their just a smaller, weaker man.. Do you know anything about basic anatomy or the birth of a child? I'll sum it up like this, a woman can punch me as or HARDER then I can punch her, its something depending on person, size and weight aren't that big of factors as some think, its the force. A 7 foot male could very well get his ass kicked by a 4 foot female, it just depends on person. When I said average male, that applies to woman can give BIRTH to a human, their systems adjust in such a way, moving several bones or organs up a bit for 9 months, along with their body being able to push the child out. Woman are WAY more dexterous then the average male. Males have more muscle gain, however, that doesn't make them more dexterous, just more powerful. Muscles don't make a person, its the amount of pressure that they can take. You are pretty god damn sexist, though, saying woman are a smaller, weaker male, thats not only sexist, but in a way can be classed as racism.
So, in conclusion, those are basic facts, your statements so far have been sexist, and you should learn in the future to not say those things, because a woman, if said too, would be provoked to punching your nose cavity in.
VIOLENCE IS BAD!

how am i sexist? the person who i responded to was talking about how guys were bigger than women, and i responded that not all guys were. I'm the one arguing against that old sexist idea. Also, i didn't mention race once. So, not sure where you are going with that...

 

[Slaanesh]

My personal belief is, if shes just annoying you/being a *****, that doesn't justify hitting her. Hell, under most circumstances that should be applied to guys too.

But if ANYONE, including girls, the elderly, and clowns, ever assaulted me, they'll be on the receiving end of a smack that will be heard around the world.

 

[Sansha]

No.

Sexism is about equality, right? If a girl starts a fight with me, I'll finish it as I would with any man.
Most, if not all, the girls I know could hold her own or best me in a fight anyway - it's not like they're fragile.

In fact my then-girlfriend and I got into a brutal fight a few months back and we ended up kicking the shit out of each other with no clear 'winner'.

 

[Jak23]

I always make a point to shove/push feminists around like I do my buddies, then when they get mad I just say "I'm just treating you like I would a guy..."

 

[DarkWolf901]

Well in a life or death situation it would be different. I mean it's wrong to just go up to a woman and beat the shit out of them for no reason.

I was not aware that it is acceptable for a man to go up to another man and beat the shit out of him for no reason...

 

[Rednog]

Girl or guy retaliation/self defense it doesn't matter you knock em' out. Seriously while not all girls may have the muscle power to punch you as hard as a guy they sure as hell won't hesitate to scar you with their nails in an altercation. People try to act as if all girls are innocent and guys should take everything they dish out with a smile. Sorry but for this guy personally I have the scars on my arm (and almost my face) to be a constant reminder that during a fight everyone is equal and you have to do what you need to do to get out of it unscratched.

 

[Deimateos]

I think if you are being legitimately attacked, it's perfectly acceptable to defend yourself. I refuse to have my life threatened just because someone's gonads formed on the inside.

I always find it amusing when people pull the "women are less violent" card, because it's almost always a precursor to excusing them when they do get violent ("Women are less violent, so you must have deserve to get stabbed, you monster!" etc)

Factually women are less physically abusive, but that doesn't mean they aren't abusive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W4J6pGkUBo

"Women are nonviolent, but they will shit inside of your heart" ~ Louis CK

 

[Astoria]

Sibling rivalry is normal. If a guy hits his sister most people wont judge him. I think any gentlemen won't hit a girl first. If the girl throws the first punch then a guy has every right to defend himself. I hate it when girls start fights with guys because they think they won't hit back.

 

[mesoforte]

They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue.

Kidding

 

[alandavidson]

If you don't attack me, I won't hit you regardless of how angry I get. If you attack me I will beat the living shit of out whoever it is, regardless of age, gender, race, or any other determining factor.

Also, don't ever attack me in the dark - even if you're just playing. If I can't determine who you are in a matter of about 1 second I will hurt you. I've hurt a few friends before, and I felt really bad about it, but it's just a knee jerk reaction from years of training and having to watch my back.

 

[Adrian Neyland]

hitting anyone is bad

 

[Nouw]

It's just as bad as hitting a boy.

Hitting a girl is bad, hitting a boy is just as bad, hitting in general is a bad thing, the gender you do it to is irrelevant

Bingo.

 

[Vault101]

depnds on the circumstance..I guess its only fair if I attack a guy he has every right to defend himself

however a guy using his physical strength against somone weaker..woman or otherwise is wrong

 

[Delsana]

Lack of decency, for the most part.

Chivalry isn't completely out of the door.

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Likely to talk her down (never been attacked by one) or use a taser.

 

[Reman Khaar]

I don't understand all of you anti-violence, anti-hitting types. *shakes head*

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

You shouldn't really be hitting anyone, let alone a girl. End of story.

 

[Straitjacketeering]

Nah if its hand to hand i wont waste my time, if that said girl pulls a knife or a gun she's getting knocked the fuck out.

 

[Images]

For myself I think I would agree that grappling should be enough if the woman is FULL-ON attacking. I suppose the one exception might be after a kick to the nuts. I don't even think thats fair in a male on male fight and you couldn't really blame a guy for lashing out after that.

This is a really delicate issue but I'll try my best to contribute with a personal story. A while back I lived with a group of people in a house including a couple. They were the type that were REALLY passionate. Either shagging all the time or shouting down the house. The girl in the relationship wanted out but she didn't want to be to the dumper, she wanted to look like the good guy. Her plan was simple, she was going to goad the guy into breaking up with her or giving her a slap so she'd have an excuse (her words! They're still both my friends). She started by pushing his buttons early on in the evening, that didn't work, EVERYONE knew she was acting weird. She then went further, starting a full blown argument and saying how much she hated him (even though she didn't, she just wanted to go forth on her own). That didn't work, though the guy was HUGE, he was the nicest, calmest guy in a situation I've seen and wasn't taking the bait. She then tried to goad him further, bringing up stuff that she'd done when they'd been on past breaks, still didn't work. He was mad, sure but he was generally a sane guy. Knowing she wasn't gonna get anywhere after a good hour or so she made the situation nuclear. Lately she'd been working late at her job at strange hours and one of the guys at her work had a MAJOR creepy crush on her and kept leaving stalkerish messages on the phone. She said that indeed, she'd been staying late after work to shag him and had even been with him that day. This was all false but she shouted detail after gruesome detail into the guy's face, and I mean really nasty stuff. He snapped. Threw a punch into her face followed by a couple of jabs with the left. The moment after this he collapsed on the floor in a huddle of tears before going straight to the phone and calling the police on himself. He didn't know he'd broken her jaw with the first hit but he didn't care, he'd done wrong in his eyes and promptly asked to be arrested. Everyone else there was conflicted. We were mixed between girls and men and none of us could figure out who was to be blame. Afterwards the girl even said she was stupid for what she'd done (rather odd as she needed surgery to fix her jaw!) but I'm still conflicted as what I would have done in that situation or who was "wrong".

Sorry for the speech but thought it was food for thought beyond the "if they hit first" stuff, into more dark territory. Sorry if it bummed any of you out or anything but I've always found the Escapist one of the better venues for discussion. Thoughts?

 

[WickedSkin]

I always maintain that violence belongs in bed and that's the end of it.