Is it ever okay to camp?

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

It's good enough, but the camping where it's sitting in a corner picking off people, mostly out of luck and good positioning, is just abysmal and annoying as hell. If you're going to defend the objective then you might as well move to a new place to catch them off guard. It's a much more legitimate way than sitting around.

 

[Deleted]

Camping's a legitimate strategy. It's just games like Call of Duty unbalance it and make it harder to kill them.

For example: Sniper in slot one, shotgun in slot two.

Camping is alright, but when the best strategy by far is to have a whole team camp, then its just not fun.

I miss the days of Arena shooters where camping means RESPAWNING IN 3...2..1..

 

[Beryl77]

Of course it's sometimes appropriate. In counter-strike the counter-terrorists have to guard the bomb places and wait for the Terrorists to come and try to plant the bomb. Of course this mostly only happens in clan wars. In public, people only just do what they want. Of course, if someone is only camping at a place without any strategic value and never comes out, it's senseless and annoying and it's really satisfying if you kill them.

 

[Firetaffer]

Depends on the game,

Counter-strike - Yes!
Unreal Tournament - No!

 

[Saltyk]

I don't have a problem with camping. Personally, I'm more active when I defend an objective and look for where the enemy is coming from, but I have no problem with an ally (or enemy) staying inside the objective with a shotgun killing anyone that tries to get inside. Sure, it can be pissy and cheap, teamwork will always overcome it.

On another note, when I played FFXI, camping was how you leveled up. You would get a group, find a nice safe spot, and then have one person go out, find an enemy and bring them back to the camp. It was the most effective strategy to level up. And good team dynamics could make or break a group.

 

[Hertzila]

There isn't anything inherently wrong with the tactic but it's very annoying when there are 7 recons from your team all in the same old, predictable place on attack team, cheerfully providing the enemy team with kills and reducing your team's tickets. Conversely, it's rather nice when the enemy does it, as it's easy to snipe them off even with an SMG.
Similarly with tank camping when they're not doing anything useful like destroying an objective.

 

[Scarecrow]

Only when playing as the sniper in team fortress 2.

 

[DazBurger]

Camp all you want just know that people will now make it their mission to see that you do not get another kill from that location.

That's why real campers play hardcore, where there's no killcam! Bwahahahah!

Then I just use a gun with FMJ and shoot you where you least expect.

To that I can only say... I rarely camp alone^^

When I play MW2 its most of the time along with some clan-buddies and most of us camp.
We usually place ourselves so we cover each other.

Especially Skidrow is highly campable.

 

[Joseph Crawford]

Camp all you want just know that people will now make it their mission to see that you do not get another kill from that location.

That's why real campers play hardcore, where there's no killcam! Bwahahahah!

Oh, I forgot to OT - So: It's alright to camp,when sniping (not baseraping though, shame on you!) - as others have stated - but the thing where you practically lock yourself in a room and then wait for people to come on in, is not all right.

Nice Pic.

OT: There is a big difference between types of camping:
1. Objective Defender; you move around a bit, hiding close to, but not sitting on top of, the objective. Can also be done from afar with a sniper rifle (stay away from the windows...).
2. Spawncamper; Dumbarse tardcake sitting by the spawn with a semi-auto shotgun.
3. Ammo-box camping; if you can't aim for shit, and need a re-stock every 2 fucking minutes!
4. One-spot sniping; All in the name, but this is generally for those who deserve to be a sniper, with a good enough aim.
5. Objective Camping; sitting on top of the objective. This is why grenades were invented
6. Door-side/stair/ladder camping; for those who love to imagine the look on the other guys face as your C4/shotgun goes off, splattering them all over the opposite wall in a mist of blood/guts/fire/all of the above.

While all of these are viable strategies, they will sooner or later get you some hate-mail, in order of most likely to least: 2, 6, 5, 3, 1, 4.

Reasons:
2: Stop being such a cowardly fuck and give me a chance to shoot back!
6: WTF HAPPENED!!!
5: NEWB! I'll just sneak through the back way and stick a block of C4 up your ass.
3: Don't bother playing if you need to do this.
1: An honest tactic, but you get many dickheads in real-war FPSs
4: Last because everyone respects a good sniper, especially since doing it with a mouse is hard enough but with two sticks for hands @_@.

 

[legend forge]

It is always OK, people who take issue with it have to learn to deal with losing or find a new strategy.

Suck it up and play.

EDIT: Spawn camping is not cool, that's unfair. The camping I mean is finding a defensible position and using long range weapons on approaching enemies, not the "wait for spawn and shoot" kind.

 

[Baradiel]

Camping is always fine. It's people who don't know how to deal with camping that annoy me.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

When defending an objective yes by all means, same goes with sniping form afar. But what most people use is cheap camping were they stay one place on the map and wait for you and t bag your body.

 

[Chappy]

On the campers who sit and wait for someone to walk past instead of actively trying to play.

In some gametypes where you are a designated defender of an objective (Halo Invasion) and when you are outnumbered and alone camping is really your only options, but when you are playing a normal game where you are not outnumbered and your not defending anything I would question camping.

But really doesn't camping a corner say something about the player? They sit in a corner all game backs to a way doing nothing until someone runs past it shows something about their confidence in their abilities and skill.

Luckily game developers implemented grenades so if you see a camper grenade his hidey hole, thats my stance anyway.

 

[Lyx]

why can't people understand this...

there is no 'right' or 'wrong' when it comes to thinks like camping. if the game allows you to do something, then it is perfectly OK. even though most gamers condemn it and look down on campers, it does not mean its cheating. if a game was intended to allow camping, then camping is just as much of a 'legitimate strategy' as anything else.

in short, there is no such thing as 'OK' and 'not OK' in camping. because in the end you can't do shit about it.

False implication: That something is possible in a game, does not necessarily imply that the developers wanted it to be used that way. They may have overlooked that possibility, or perhaps they were just too lazy or unimaginative to fix it properly.

If a game is unbalanced in a certain way, then it is unbalanced in that way. Fact. If people then use that to their advantage, they support that flaw. As i said earlier, its true that if some aspect of the gamemechanics works badly, it shouldn't have been that way to begin with. However, if people then use that flaw to their advantage, they promote it (and i mean that literarily - the more a gamemechanics flaw is abused, the more others are pushed to abuse it too, to stay competitive). It takes two to tango, not one.

P.S.: With the above, i do not mean that camping generally is a flaw. But quite a few games have difficulty to balance it - which i find amusing, because what could be easier to control, than something totally predictable?

P.S.2: And yes, grenades/rockets are the most obvious answer. Surekill weapons that do not require line of sight, but take long to unleash, are the ideal weapon against this: Too slow against moving/unpredictable targets, but deadly if you know what the enemy is going to do.

 

[Nouw]

Yes it is, especially when you're defending.

 

[auronvi]

It's always ok to camp because there are always ways to defeat it. Especially the "I'm gonna stay here the whole game" camper.

I use tactical camping. I know where the other guys are going to be coming from so I set myself in a vantage point that will give me the best advantage against the incoming baddies. Then... I move. I love being called a camper because if they would actually pay attention, I just choose not to run around the corner guns blazing, I am a patient hunter.

 

[REAPER5594]

I don't have a problem with "campers". If you can find a well hidden spot where you can kill and make it hard for you to be killed, that's fine. I have problems with entire teams locking out part of the map. OR, use glitches to get to normaly inaccessable parts of the map. And spawn campers, that's just wrong. If you don't want to be killed by a camper, try and THINK OUT a way to counter him/her, and kill them. That simple. most of the maps are made so that you CAN camp and also KILL a camper. you just have to THINK. use flash grenades to blind the guy and shoot 'em. use your grenades and perks effectivly.

 

[dex-dex]

i don't see a need in games but in real life it is fun with friends not so much with family members and it makes you realize why your cousins don't live in the same city as you.

 

[Eldarion]

In Real Life? Yes.
In Games? No.
In MW2, Whenever I See A Camper, I Riot Shield Them To Death XD

Excellent strategy! I always find it fun to slowly move towards someone while holding the riot shield and laugh as they panic fire into the shield and hope they don't have Semtex!

I always kill riot shielders with a grenade. Works about 99% of the time.

 

[Treblaine]

Snipers.

By that I mean stay in one AREA shooting at another area for a long time. But just staying rooted in one corner never manoeuvring for a better shot or more cover: that is taking it too far.

Similar for Machine gunners and so on.

Of course a game won't work if everyone constantly camps and the minority who break ranks are those who get their ass shot off.

That's why you should avoid objective-less Team-deathmatch.