Is it that hard to find a virgin?

[OmniscientOstrich]

So if you totally fell for someone and then found out they weren't a virgin you would break it off.

Seems kind of judgemental to me.

Yeah pretty much that. OP, I think you'll be pretty hard pressed to find someone in this day age willing to adopt the 'Straight Edge' lifestyle as it were.

 

[Azure-Supernova]

Because once you lose it the first time, it is hard to never have it again. And once you start having sex a lot, it will eventually lead to a kid.

Wait... what? I mean I would feel uncomfortable about being a woman who has a child to another man, but your train of logic is... what?

You're not after a virgin you're after someone responsible and faithful. You could meet a virgin and full well have glorious sex, only for her to turn around and cheat or not be a virgin at all. Surely virginity would fall behind the two afforementioned traits?

 

[PeaceRider]

in most modern, large population, busy location, type of cities, it's true.
Not to be mean or cruel, but your best bet would be to move to what is called the "Bible Belt".
I wish you luck, but I won't hold my breath.

 

[Geo Da Sponge]

You'll have a hard time managing that; you're on nothing but loam in that area [footnote]Cookie for reference and all that.[/footnote]. Joking aside, I have to say I respect your goal. I mean, it's not something I share but I respect that you're willing to make a sacrifice in the name of something you consider more meaningful. A lot of people seem to be assuming that you're judging those who choose to have sex earlier or you think they'll be damned for all eternity or some nonsense, but hey, it's not like you're hurting anyone. You certainly don't seem to be organising lynch mobs over it.

I mean, this is the internet, we all see a lot of stuff far weirder than deciding to not have sex before marriage.

 

[khantron]

So why is it virginity

I think the biggest issue i have with the "must be virgins" crowd, is that they treat sex like its something dirty to be ashamed of. Which is particularly ironic since they believe its a gift from god. I've seen people totally abandoned by their friends just because they "fell into sin." It's hypocritical and cruel, and it disgusts me. One of many reasons i'm not a christian.

I don't think it is dirty and shameful. I think it should have some meaning to it. Almost everyone of my friends have had sex before and I don't mind in the least. My moral doesn't come from any church, it comes from the background of my entire family getting pregnant and having a child before 17. I am the only person in my whole family who is 18 and has not got somebody knocked up which is a major accomplishment for me.

So why is it virginity and not that she has a kid, where you draw the line?

Because once you lose it the first time, it is hard to never have it again. And once you start having sex a lot, it will eventually lead to a kid.

Not if you get an abortion. Problem solved.

Don't believe in abortion unless a woman is raped. Again, not a religious thing; personal belief.

It's a legitimate medical procedure that allows a woman to exert greater control over her own body. I don't think a woman should be forced to have a baby just because she consented to sex, especially since childbirth is fairly dangerous. But maybe I'm the crazy one.

Well, you have your ideals and I have mine. I'll get say, lets agree, to disagree on this one.

Are you sure you're not religious? Because you seem to have morals that are religious, though with a fairly postmodern attitude about them. It's a combination that makes me shudder.

 

[Escapefromwhatever]

No, it's not hard, but why do you live by a fucking medieval moral code that states that virginity is the most important thing about a woman? There are so many other, better traits you could be using to find a partner...

 

[Mad World]

You address me? But on topic, what do you think morals are?

Did it say that I quoted you? I wasn't addressing anyone in particular.

Anyway, I think that far too many people idolize sex and money. So many people are concentrating on the wrong things. They put other, less important things before friends and family.

This isn't just about relationships (boyfriend and girlfriend); it's about a lot of other things, too.

Often, I just catch myself looking at our world, and I go, "Wow." Not a good "Wow," either.

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

Nope, not many. Nealy none, I'd say.
[foreveralone]

 

[Death God]

So why is it virginity

I think the biggest issue i have with the "must be virgins" crowd, is that they treat sex like its something dirty to be ashamed of. Which is particularly ironic since they believe its a gift from god. I've seen people totally abandoned by their friends just because they "fell into sin." It's hypocritical and cruel, and it disgusts me. One of many reasons i'm not a christian.

I don't think it is dirty and shameful. I think it should have some meaning to it. Almost everyone of my friends have had sex before and I don't mind in the least. My moral doesn't come from any church, it comes from the background of my entire family getting pregnant and having a child before 17. I am the only person in my whole family who is 18 and has not got somebody knocked up which is a major accomplishment for me.

So why is it virginity and not that she has a kid, where you draw the line?

Because once you lose it the first time, it is hard to never have it again. And once you start having sex a lot, it will eventually lead to a kid.

Not if you get an abortion. Problem solved.

Don't believe in abortion unless a woman is raped. Again, not a religious thing; personal belief.

It's a legitimate medical procedure that allows a woman to exert greater control over her own body. I don't think a woman should be forced to have a baby just because she consented to sex, especially since childbirth is fairly dangerous. But maybe I'm the crazy one.

Well, you have your ideals and I have mine. I'll get say, lets agree, to disagree on this one.

Are you sure you're not religious? Because you seem to have morals that are religious, though with a fairly postmodern attitude about them. It's a combination that makes me shudder.

I believe in God, yes. But that is about it. If that makes it that my views are all base on religion, so be it.

 

[khantron]

Because once you lose it the first time, it is hard to never have it again. And once you start having sex a lot, it will eventually lead to a kid.

Wait... what? I mean I would feel uncomfortable about being a woman who has a child to another man, but your train of logic is... what?

You're not after a virgin you're after someone responsible and faithful. You could meet a virgin and full well have glorious sex, only for her to turn around and cheat or not be a virgin at all. Surely virginity would fall behind the two afforementioned traits?

Yeah I didn't understand it either. How does me being say, a skydive virgin, mean I have anything extra? Is he talking about the hymen or something?

 

[Yearlongjester]

I know this won't come out the wrong way, but I think your standards are a little high friend.

I mean, let's say you've found the perfect girl. She's beautiful, smart, deep, passionate, and you can't get enough of her. Let's say she's never been with anyone else, and has never done drugs. However, she enjoys the drink every now and then. Are you really saying that there's no chance?

Yes, in this day and age you're going to have a hard time with that. It's not impossible, but I think you come across as too much of a snobby obsessive prude. Personally I don't drink and only tried drugs twice before just saying "this isn't my thing" and going off. If I find a girl who likes those things then great! It wouldn't stop me from pursuing any sort of relationship as long as it didn't adversely affect us or her.

And this is kinda skating by the fact that those are normal adolescent things to do. I mean if that's your moral compass live by it dude, I'm in no position to tell you how to live your life. But now's the time to experience that stuff, to go off one weekend and get completely messed AND regret it. Broaden your horizons, experience something you know you're going to hate. You'll at least become a better well-rounded person along the way, and perhaps see that these substances aren't the worst thing in the world.

Alright I'm heading off my soapbox now, just wanted to get that out there.

 

[Death God]

Because once you lose it the first time, it is hard to never have it again. And once you start having sex a lot, it will eventually lead to a kid.

Wait... what? I mean I would feel uncomfortable about being a woman who has a child to another man, but your train of logic is... what?

You're not after a virgin you're after someone responsible and faithful. You could meet a virgin and full well have glorious sex, only for her to turn around and cheat or not be a virgin at all. Surely virginity would fall behind the two afforementioned traits?

You have got a point there. I guess I am looking for a more faithful and responsible girl than a virgin. I'll go up to my original post and tweak it a bit.

 

[khantron]

So why is it virginity

I think the biggest issue i have with the "must be virgins" crowd, is that they treat sex like its something dirty to be ashamed of. Which is particularly ironic since they believe its a gift from god. I've seen people totally abandoned by their friends just because they "fell into sin." It's hypocritical and cruel, and it disgusts me. One of many reasons i'm not a christian.

I don't think it is dirty and shameful. I think it should have some meaning to it. Almost everyone of my friends have had sex before and I don't mind in the least. My moral doesn't come from any church, it comes from the background of my entire family getting pregnant and having a child before 17. I am the only person in my whole family who is 18 and has not got somebody knocked up which is a major accomplishment for me.

So why is it virginity and not that she has a kid, where you draw the line?

Because once you lose it the first time, it is hard to never have it again. And once you start having sex a lot, it will eventually lead to a kid.

Not if you get an abortion. Problem solved.

Don't believe in abortion unless a woman is raped. Again, not a religious thing; personal belief.

It's a legitimate medical procedure that allows a woman to exert greater control over her own body. I don't think a woman should be forced to have a baby just because she consented to sex, especially since childbirth is fairly dangerous. But maybe I'm the crazy one.

Well, you have your ideals and I have mine. I'll get say, lets agree, to disagree on this one.

Are you sure you're not religious? Because you seem to have morals that are religious, though with a fairly postmodern attitude about them. It's a combination that makes me shudder.

I believe in God, yes. But that is about it. If that makes it that my views are all base on religion, so be it.

You've not addressed your moral foundation so I wouldn't know. It does line up fairly exactly with medieval Christianity. I've not heard of a proper secular ethical system with your moral stances, but perhaps I might learn something new. I don't consider relativism a proper ethical system by the way, just to be clear.

 

[Jovip]

My friend, i am so ridiculously happy to have found someone sharing the same outlook on things as me. minus a few infractions, I've slept with a few people and am currently in high school. but i HATE drinking and drugs even if you are legal aged to do so, it's just stupid. sex doesn't bother me. but the drinking and drugs do. i refuse to date someone if they do that stuff and being surrounded by the stupid teenagers that are practically swimming in it makes me want to puke. I to have been told "your never gonna find ANYONE who doesn't drink or do drugs" to which i usually wanna break down inside because my moral code won't let me get past those things. however i usually shrug.

But don't feel alone man, we shall find our matches, somehow. might be a ***** in this generation. but it will happen.

 

[Dylan Blackler]

mmm I was lucky, because I met my girlfriend when she was yr 10 at school and she was a virgin, but everyone else in her age group up were not, but I know how you feel about the whole dating virgin thing. but as people have said don't lose hope you are bound to find her one day =P

 

[vento 231]

Once you reach a certain age its hard to find a cute one.

 

[A Free Man]

I honestly think that choosing someone based on their ability to avoid "vices" is a horrible way to go about it. This is just my opiniong but I honestly reckon anyone who completely avoid all forms of drugs, alcohol and sex is going to be a fairly boring person to hang around. You need at least a little bit of excitement in your life. I think they are old fashioned ideals built around outdated religions that have no real use in modern times. As long as the aforementioned things are done for fun and aren't addictions to an extreme I have nothing wrong with them.

 

[khantron]

You address me? But on topic, what do you think morals are?

Did it say that I quoted you? I wasn't addressing anyone in particular.

Anyway, I think that far too many people idolize sex and money. So many people are concentrating on the wrong things. They put other, less important things before friends and family.

This isn't just about relationships (boyfriend and girlfriend); it's about a lot of other things, too.

Often, I just catch myself looking at our world, and I go, "Wow." Not a good "Wow," either.

Yeah then I guess that isn't me. I think sex is a fun activity among consenting adults and money is good so long as it is a means to survival and a bit comfort rather than an end in and of itself. I just thought I detected a religious understanding of morals, which my abortion comment would likely trigger.

 

[Double A]

I don't drink, but I don't like the taste of booze.
I don't smoke or do drugs, but I'm both too cheap and too heart/mental health-conscious.
I'm a virgin, but I can attribute that to physical unattractiveness and not actually giving a damn.

 

[Powereaver]

im 25 and still a virgin and dont drink smoke do drugs or even watch porn and im a guy! its a miracle i know im nearly 26 also in a month.. must be some sort of record or something!