It's not promoting it, in fact it doesn't even feature it if you think about it. Argonians and the Khajit are can think and act like people, not common animals. You might as well say the elves are beasts as well.
Is Skyrim promoting bestiality?
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I think I'm gonna go that route as well...save the lusty argonian maid partJedamethis said:Lusty Argonian Maid anyone? I'm going to get me one of them.
I'm going to be an handsome Argonian rogue, so it's all good for me.
*sniff* My Argonian mum says I'm handsome. ;_;twistedheat15 said:Handsome Argonian? BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!Jedamethis said:Lusty Argonian Maid anyone? I'm going to get me one of them.
I'm going to be an handsome Argonian rogue, so it's all good for me.
Suit yourself.Impluse_101 said:I think I'm gonna go that route as well...save the lusty argonian maid partJedamethis said:Lusty Argonian Maid anyone? I'm going to get me one of them.
I'm going to be an handsome Argonian rogue, so it's all good for me.
It is not beastiality. That would require that the "animal" in question be just that, an animal. the Khajiit and Argonians are sentient peoples, just as smart and capable as others in the game. The fact that they look like cats and lizards is merely a result of their evolutionary path, so any relations with them would simply be an interracial relationship, nothing more.pulse2 said:So apparently you can marry in Skyrim, this news is old now, you can marry same sexes too! This news is also old now. But has anyone stopped to think about the animal races marrying humans? :/ Now of course I'd love to demonstrate my male ego by playing as a Tiger, therefore the Khajiit perfectly represents what I'm about
(Lets not get all serious, I really don't care that much, just thought it would be an entertaining topic)
-_- Lizard wife in a pink dress with lipstick on, horrifying mental image.
I just know there's a bestiality forum somewhere on the internet talking about how exciting this news is, lol
Aside: If I may ask, why are you freaked out about Skyrim, when the Mass Effect series can have you be in a relationship with at least 4 separate alien species (and counting)?
So why is boning Elves fine? The Kajit are just as humanoid as the Elves, just with a bit more... fur.Abandon4093 said:
And AID's was an STD that was exclusive to Chimpanzee's once upon a time. Explain that.
Is it really beast-iality when they're not beasts, they're people? And it's no real different, as pointed out, as going with Tali, Garus or Liara from Mass Effect.pulse2 said:So apparently you can marry in Skyrim, this news is old now, you can marry same sexes too! This news is also old now. But has anyone stopped to think about the animal races marrying humans? :/ Now of course I'd love to demonstrate my male ego by playing as a Tiger, therefore the Khajiit perfectly represents what I'm about
(Lets not get all serious, I really don't care that much, just thought it would be an entertaining topic)
-_- Lizard wife in a pink dress with lipstick on, horrifying mental image.
I just know there's a bestiality forum somewhere on the internet talking about how exciting this news is, lol
To be entirely honest, is it really any real different than having a Dwarf or Elf character flirt Liliana (a human) from Dragon Age? Or a human with Zevern (an elf)? Half-Elf and Half-Orc are semi 'Old School' forms of canon cross species pairings. The fact, it even implies it's so often that those hybrids are treated as their own race rather than some sort of template to another race. Are those pairings less bestiality just because one of the non-human species is more 'pretty' than the other? That seems to be a bit intellectually dishonest.
That doesn't even touch the implied necrophilia of half-vampire pairings, or what not, but few people seem to have a problem with that too.
There's also the sort of dishonesty that it 'encourages' you to marry an Argonian or whatever. I haven't been following the game much, but I'm pretty sure there's no point where the game encourages you to to marry a specific species or gender.
Heck, you could make a stronger point that Fable 2 or 3 encourages heterosexuality despite its claims to be totally neutral with 2's "Alex" quest line.
Where the only 'good' ending to that quest is to marry somebody of the opposite sex; the only other resolution to the quest is to break the heart of and subsequently have kill themselves. Or forever let the quest clutter up the game.
Or Fable 3's intro, where you're the blood son or daughter of your previous hero, who apparently has a son or daughter. You can't really even pretend that you're adopted because you have all the same 'hero genes', unless that stuff is passed through adoption lines somehow.
Or the intro which heavily implies you're very romantically close to a member of the opposite sex.
That sort of game play/story telling seems to encourage a character's sexuality a lot more than just the mere possibility floating around for some hot Khajiit on Argonian action.
Granted, I'll amend my view a bit if somebody can show me any sort of game play element that favors it, like quests that can't be completed on the proper good/evil alignment without cross-species sex or something.
That happens pretty much on day one for.. about every game, that has any sort of 'remove armor' feature. Isn't that sort of part and parcel for rule 34?ForgottenPr0digy said:
Like others have said, the Elves are as human as the Argonians and the Kajhit, so any moral arbiters who say "NO, BANGING THE LIZARD/KITTY IS WRONG!", and then makes eyes at a nearby pretty elf is being spectacularly hypocritical.
Remember people, just because it looks like you, but shorter and with pointy ears, it's not human, and you're still going to end up with some rather odd babies, if any at all.
If anyone makes an issue with it, just point at a liger and say "HUMANS CAUSED THIS!"
Remember people, just because it looks like you, but shorter and with pointy ears, it's not human, and you're still going to end up with some rather odd babies, if any at all.
If anyone makes an issue with it, just point at a liger and say "HUMANS CAUSED THIS!"
I do, and I'm not sorry that someone brought her up before I had the opportunity. If Ahnassi's romance quest wasn't scandalous I don't see why Skyrim's romance options should be. Honestly I doubt the gaming media, let along the mainstream media, will give this much attention.CD-R said:
When Mass Effect was attracting so much attention I don't recall anyone concerned about human and alien relationships.
I have no real issue with the idea of inter-species sex/romance. Elves, humans, dwarves, hobbits, anthromorphs, aliens, robots etc... it's all good. I don't see that as being beastiality.
That said such things don't exist, so it's largely a question that comes up in fantasy, and I've long since been convinced there is no issue here conceptually.
On the other hand I do find it kind of disturbing when you run into people that are ONLY turned on by what doesn't exist, and need to say dress up in fursuits to have sex or whatever.
While it's not my primary interest, I can look at some Anthromorphic artwork of gorgeous female characters and fairly say "yeah, I'd hit that if it was real and I was given the oppertunity", but it's not real and not something I try and simulate IRL, nor do I seek this kind of thing out to the exclusion of real porn when I'm "in the mood" so to speak.
As far as romance goes in "Skyrim" I guess it comes down to what the options are and what character I come accross as liking.
To be honest I will concur that I don't find the Krajits or Argonians all that attractive with the current models I've seen, the latter in paticular. However I will say that snake/lizard girls can be quite hot in the right artwork, look up some artist renditions of Nagas, Medusi, Half Dragons, Yuan-Ti, etc... It CAN be made sexy along the whole alien/exotic vein, but "Elder Scrolls" doesn't seem to be going there from what I've seen.
That said such things don't exist, so it's largely a question that comes up in fantasy, and I've long since been convinced there is no issue here conceptually.
On the other hand I do find it kind of disturbing when you run into people that are ONLY turned on by what doesn't exist, and need to say dress up in fursuits to have sex or whatever.
While it's not my primary interest, I can look at some Anthromorphic artwork of gorgeous female characters and fairly say "yeah, I'd hit that if it was real and I was given the oppertunity", but it's not real and not something I try and simulate IRL, nor do I seek this kind of thing out to the exclusion of real porn when I'm "in the mood" so to speak.
As far as romance goes in "Skyrim" I guess it comes down to what the options are and what character I come accross as liking.
To be honest I will concur that I don't find the Krajits or Argonians all that attractive with the current models I've seen, the latter in paticular. However I will say that snake/lizard girls can be quite hot in the right artwork, look up some artist renditions of Nagas, Medusi, Half Dragons, Yuan-Ti, etc... It CAN be made sexy along the whole alien/exotic vein, but "Elder Scrolls" doesn't seem to be going there from what I've seen.
Fun fact, sex with an elf is beastiality if you are human. Beastiality is essentially having sex outside of your species. If you are into elf fucking, you are technically about the same as a dog fucker.
If you want to defend the position of elf fornicating by saying they are sentient beings, thus do not fall under beastiality, then I have to point out that Khajit and Argonians are sentient beings, thus is not beastiality.
Allowing a player to do something in a game does not equal promoting it. If that was the case, TES series promotes murder, sadism, masochism, theft, home invasion, disease, etc by the fact that they allow it.
So to answer your question... No, it isn't promoting anything. Promoting means advocating, they are advocating allowing players to make up their own minds and create their own experiences.
If you want to defend the position of elf fornicating by saying they are sentient beings, thus do not fall under beastiality, then I have to point out that Khajit and Argonians are sentient beings, thus is not beastiality.
Allowing a player to do something in a game does not equal promoting it. If that was the case, TES series promotes murder, sadism, masochism, theft, home invasion, disease, etc by the fact that they allow it.
So to answer your question... No, it isn't promoting anything. Promoting means advocating, they are advocating allowing players to make up their own minds and create their own experiences.
Oh my god I never thought of it that way, I still don't think it's promoting it because I never heard of that possibility until now. This distrubes me a little but I usually only play as human characters and I am not attracted to the cat or lizard people so I think it won't be an issue for me.
Erm....I think some people missed the "Lets not get all serious, I really don't care that much, just thought it would be an entertaining topic" part. Freaking out about it? Hardly, its like some people immediately took offense to me jokingly calling it bestiality. I know they are intelligent humanoids in a manner of speaking (or at least supposed to be), I played Oblivion and loved it, I'm also aware that technically its no different from Elves and dwalves etc.
Like I said, I'm not the least bit bothered by it, I started the topic for entertainment (or at least it was entertaining until some people started assuming I was freaked out and absolutely appalled by the idea or something of the sort), I like the options Skyrim is giving and I'll be sure to mess about with all of it, after all, that's what it's all there for, might as well make the most of their hard work.
Jeez, I don't mind being corrected, it all makes the topic more interesting, but lets not get carried away, catpeople and lizardpeople don't "actually" exist yaknow.
Like I said, I'm not the least bit bothered by it, I started the topic for entertainment (or at least it was entertaining until some people started assuming I was freaked out and absolutely appalled by the idea or something of the sort), I like the options Skyrim is giving and I'll be sure to mess about with all of it, after all, that's what it's all there for, might as well make the most of their hard work.
Jeez, I don't mind being corrected, it all makes the topic more interesting, but lets not get carried away, catpeople and lizardpeople don't "actually" exist yaknow.
pulse2 said:So apparently you can marry in Skyrim, this news is old now, you can marry same sexes too! This news is also old now. But has anyone stopped to think about the animal races marrying humans? :/ Now of course I'd love to demonstrate my male ego by playing as a Tiger, therefore the Khajiit perfectly represents what I'm about
(Lets not get all serious, I really don't care that much, just thought it would be an entertaining topic)
-_- Lizard wife in a pink dress with lipstick on, horrifying mental image.
I just know there's a bestiality forum somewhere on the internet talking about how exciting this news is, lol
Well in oblivion there was the grey prince, who was half human(vampire). How is that any different?
You jerk. That pun was so stupid it made me chuckle.Prince Regent said:
On-topic, as has been said several times, it is not any stranger than romancing Tali, or Garrus, or Thane, or Liara.
Or being a human on Dragon Age and romancing Zevran. Or being an elf and romancing Alistair, Morrigan, or Leilana.
I forgot about that sidequest. So...Oblivion covered necrophilia twice...yeah, not-quite-bestiality isn't so bad now, is it?ChiryX said:pulse2 said:So apparently you can marry in Skyrim, this news is old now, you can marry same sexes too! This news is also old now. But has anyone stopped to think about the animal races marrying humans? :/ Now of course I'd love to demonstrate my male ego by playing as a Tiger, therefore the Khajiit perfectly represents what I'm about
(Lets not get all serious, I really don't care that much, just thought it would be an entertaining topic)
-_- Lizard wife in a pink dress with lipstick on, horrifying mental image.
I just know there's a bestiality forum somewhere on the internet talking about how exciting this news is, lol
Well in oblivion there was the grey prince, who was half human(vampire). How is that any different?