It's not THAT bad.

[SomeGuyOnHisComputer]

Uncle Grandpa, I'd go as far to say that I actually like it a lot.

Dead Rising Chop Till You Drop, It's actually a lot of fun if you give it a chance. No, it doesn't hold a candle to the original, but I'd still play it over the sequels any day.

Elebits, yeah, it's a children?s game. It also has pretty cool music and fun gameplay.

 

[TheVampwizimp_v1legacy]

ME3, absolutely. I actually understand why so many people abhorred the ending, and the problems others had with the game in general. Kai Leng is a *****, and the excision of the neutral dialogue option is worse. But I think I see it differently than a lot of people. I found the good parts more than good enough to completely drown out the mistakes they made. It was a great finale to a great series.

And, here's one I don't even get: Days of Future Past. Wha? Why do so many people dump on this movie? It wasn't just NOT bad, it was really good! Every time I hear that someone hates it, my mind is boggled all over again. If you ask me, it's just as good as First Class, and everyone liked that one. Someone, please explain this to me.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

Arkham Origins isn't that bad if you don't take into account all the glitches and game-breaking bugs.

I can second that. I never took the criticism about it being an iterative sequel very seriously either since that never comes up for the various CoD and Madden re-releases.

Final Fantasy Spirits Within. Its actually a really decent sci-fi story with great animation. Too bad it was named Final Fantasy

Agreed. It was a really interesting premise after all...also, gotta love James Woods as a villain.

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Metroid Other M wasn't that bad. It was definitely different and the story was absolutely garbage but unlike many other Wii games, the control gimmick funcitonal (for me). I genuinely can't play the Prime collection and Skyward Sword would have been much easier if I could use a real controller but at least for Other M I could play the game properly (not counting the first-person shooting that you have to do for some reason).

Watch_Dogs wasn't that bad either...then again, I don't think people called it BAD necessarily. Once the game launched some people realized that no, the game won't bring your childhood dog back to life but it was a pretty solid open-world. I would almost go so far as to say it's the best open world game on the Wii U but I haven't played Lego Batman 2 or 3 yet.

Modern Simpsons isn't great. Modern Simpsons is definitely worse because of its lack of people like Sam Simon, Phil Hartman and, Conan O'Brian. Modern Simpsons is still pretty entertaining if nothing else is on. It's been going on for way too long but it hasn't aged too terribly badly considering it's been on the air for nearly as long as I've been alive.

 

[RealRT]

The Chronicles of Riddick anyone? I thought it was a really fun action movie romp.
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2. Now, the writing is all over the place and the stealth sections are atrocious, but the graphics and the music are gorgeous and the combat is wicked fun.

 

[Drops a Sweet Katana]

The Chronicles of Riddick anyone? I thought it was a really fun action movie romp.

Shit, I was going to say that. But yeah, I'm totally with you on that. It's not a masterpiece by any stretch, but I still thoroughly enjoy the film on the whole.

Spoiler: There is one scene in the film that is physically painful to watch, though. (Epilepsy warning)

 

[Kyrian007]

Blank-slate...yes...because the phrase "actions speak louder than words" is just a phrase.

And come on, I doubt most people complain about the "what" of the Varia Suit bit. It's the "why" and honestly the whole "permission" business with her gear was completely idiotic.

And lastly, there's a colossal difference between "insecurities and weaknesses" and "being so mindbogglingly stupid as to actively endanger yourself for no reason when you have to means to protect yourself." I wouldn't want Samus or any other character to have that trait.

Actions speak louder than words? 99% + of "Samus" actions are input directly by the player, and most of the rest are either finishing an action the player started, or are running away from or watching an exploding set piece. Ok, so you didn't choose to not shoot the baby Metroid, that's about 10 seconds of "not blank slate" with a few other minor moments stacked up against hundreds of hours of "blank slate..." to me, sans Other M, she easily qualifies. And yes, the "permission" thing was not written well. But again, finding some reason to take away her upgrades to set up the exploration part of the game is a staple of the series. And how many times could they pull the old "trip and fall and break all but the most basic parts of my suit, tee-hee" bit? At least they tried something different. Sure it was stupid and didn't work, but it was different. And again I question how "endangered" Samus was in the lava room. Sure, she could have stepped back into the previous room and turned on the varia suit, or even contacted what's his name to ask for "permission." Or she could have seen the room laid out in front of her and thought "ahh screw it, this looks piss-easy (because it was.) I'll upgrade the suit later. The way the rest of the bottle ship has been laid out there's probably one of those full health rooms behind that big door." Seriously, I had more problems with the story via the regenerating health and full health save rooms than I did with the "permission" thing. And those things were gameplay issues with me while the permission thing was just a story problem.

 

[Pyrian]

OT- Do I dare say Bay version of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

I enjoyed the heck out of that incredibly stupid movie. Especially the "skiing" scene.

 

[happyninja42]

OT- Do I dare say Bay version of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

I enjoyed the heck out of that incredibly stupid movie. Especially the "skiing" scene.

Haven't seen it myself, because I just simply refuse to see any Bay movies based on some things he's said. But everyone I've heard talk about it, said the "elevator scene" was their favorite part, or at least really funny.

Let's see, more Not Bads

Nickelback. Seriously people, there are far more shitty bands out there then these guys. The internet hate of them is comical in it's absurdity.

Yeah, that's the only new one that's popped up in my head recently that hasn't already been covered by other posters.

 

[Twintix]

Nickelback. Seriously people, there are far more shitty bands out there then these guys. The internet hate of them is comical in it's absurdity.

Wait, hating on Nickelback is still a thing? Either way, I never understood the hatred for them either. Yeah, they're generic pop-rock, but there are worse things in the world than that. And I actually like Rockstar.

OT: In the way of games...

Well, you lot are probably tired of hearing me say this by now, but once again, I liked Paper Mario: Sticker Star. It's the worst in the series, sure, but come on, guys, it wasn't that atrocious. I like that they actually tried something new with its gameplay; It matches the game's aesthetic beautifully and creates some interesting situations.

[sub][sub][sub](Though Kersti can still go fuck herself. She's the worst part of the game by far.)[/sub][/sub][/sub]

Oh, and also Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity. Yeah, the limited amount of Pokémon you could play as was...underwhelming.[footnote]Also, why did they remove being able to choose you and your partner's gender in the non-Japanese versions? Yeah, it doesn't really change anything, but it was nice to have the option. It is an RPG, after all...[/footnote] And the writing was kinda eh. But it was still an enjoyable romp to the end, and they actually had an explanation for why your player character can come back in the post-game instead of just "Welp, here you go. Don't question it, just take it." (I said can come back because your character coming back in the post-game is actually optional this time; You don't have to bring him/her back if you don't want to.)

Hmmm...And Pewdiepie. I mean, I'm not a fan of him, and his fandom is bigger than his hatedom, but I don't really understand the vitriol towards this guy. That his fans can be annoying is in no way his fault. And outside of all the screaming, he's a genuinely kind-hearted dude who donates a lot of the money he earns to charity. It's so annoying when people start bitching about Pewds on videos that have absolutely nothing to do with him. Just...leave it be, alright? Nobody is forcing you to watch him, so just let him do his things and make the people who do like him happy.

And when it comes to other stuff...

St. Anger. No, it's not Metallica's greatest album. No, none of the songs on that album would fall into my top 5 Metallica songs, or even my top 10. But I still think it's a good album.

...And that's all the stuff I can think of right now.

 

[Artina89]

Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace.

I actually think that's the best one out of the prequel trilogy, mainly because Hayden isn't in it. Yes, the dialogue is still pretty hard to listen to, but the action is good, Hayden's whining isn't there, that lightsaber battle at the end is bonkers, and Hayden isn't there. I will happily watch this movie over the other two any day.
Did I mention that Hayden isn't there? I mentioned that, right?

That was what I was thinking when I was looking at the title of the thread. What severely hindered The Phantom Menace was that people unsurprisingly compared it to the films in the original trilogy, and it suffered for it. My favourite Star Wars film will always be The Empire Strikes back.

 

[happyninja42]

Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace.

I actually think that's the best one out of the prequel trilogy, mainly because Hayden isn't in it. Yes, the dialogue is still pretty hard to listen to, but the action is good, Hayden's whining isn't there, that lightsaber battle at the end is bonkers, and Hayden isn't there. I will happily watch this movie over the other two any day.
Did I mention that Hayden isn't there? I mentioned that, right?

That was what I was thinking when I was looking at the title of the thread. What severely hindered The Phantom Menace was that people unsurprisingly compared it to the films in the original trilogy, and it suffered for it. My favourite Star Wars film will always be The Empire Strikes back.

As I've mentioned in some other thread somewhere, possibly earlier in this one, the Phantom Menace's biggest problem (in my opinion), isn't comparing it to the original trilogy, but having to face 30+ years of fan expectation buildup. Yeah, when I saw it, I wasn't too impressed, and the Star Wars fanboy in me was very disappointed in a lot of ways, but, I mean really, it wasn't that bad of a movie. Just on story structure and other factors, it was fairly well made. There are tons of worse scifi movies out there. It just had the pedigree of 3 movie classics of pop culture to deal with, and the unrealistic expectations of fans. Hell there are movies released NOW that are way worse than Phantom Menace.

Damnit, I had some new things I was going to add that I thought of during my lunch break, but I forgot. *thinks hard* Bah, can't recall. Most of the other things floating in my head now are things that I don't like, that people thought were pretty good.

Oh! Waterworld. It wasn't a bad movie, I thought it was pretty good when it came out, and I still think it's pretty good. It was one of the more original post apocalyptic premises that I've seen to date, and I appreciated the difficulty in trying to produce that movie.

Just thought of another one!

Van Helsing. Sorry but I enjoyed the hell out of that movie. It was so over the top and cheezy. But it had some really fun qualities to it that I loved.

1. The comic relief/sidekick was actually useful. When Helsing was up against a threat, he ALWAYS had the needed item to help him fight it. He was Johnny on the Spot when it came to assisting the Monster Hunter in his job, including a dramatic slow motion rope swing to catch the plot device that saves the day in the end. He even got laid, something the Hero wasn't able to accomplish.

2. The whole point of the mission was to save the souls of the one family. And entire family line at risk of damnation, because of an oath they made to rid their country of Dracula. And they don't actually save the Damsel in Distress. She dies, but they are all allowed into heaven because of their actions.

3. Dracula. Oh...my...god, this guy. THIS...GUY. He was so damn funny. SO over the top. Chewing up every scene he was in, including when he's hanging upside down and bitching at his 3 wives. He was such a fun villain to watch.

 

[BlackBark]

Doom, the movie. I mean, it's hardly the best film ever made and it didn't live up to the games, but I think it's pretty reasonable overall.

+1 to FF Spirits Within as well. I guess it just didn't live up to expectations, like most anime films to be honest, but it was still decent enough.

Doom wasn't terrible, but it's biggest problem can be summed up as "I liked this movie better when it was called ALIENS(and to a lesser extent Event Horizon)". Ironically, my favorite scene in the entire film is the 5 or so minutes when he's shooting things from an FPS POV. I wonder if it would have been better if they'd just filmed the entire movie like that and cut out some of the slower parts.

Never got the hates for Spirits Within. Sure, it didn't have much to do with the series but most of the games don't have that much to do with each other and frankly, it's still one of the better FF-related things put on film(counting some of the series as well). The biggest problem it had was being WAY too expensive to compensate for the small core audience.

Yeah, I agree with you about Doom, although maybe a full length film in first person would have been a bit much (I am a fan of that scene, though). Perhaps if they'd used a more over the top style, in the same vein as Sin City and 300, it would have worked better. I think the characters fit well, but the overall style was too bland and, as you said, trying to be like Alien.

 

[happyninja42]

Never got the hates for Spirits Within. Sure, it didn't have much to do with the series but most of the games don't have that much to do with each other and frankly, it's still one of the better FF-related things put on film(counting some of the series as well). The biggest problem it had was being WAY too expensive to compensate for the small core audience.

I know! I never understood that either! Seriously the only thing all the games have in common is a guy named Cid, well guess what, there was a Cid in Spirits Within. So I don't know what else they were expecting to be "true to the game line". Because yeah, they were all completely different games with their own world and rules. Spirits Within at least had a comprehensible plot, unlike most of the games, and it didn't involve a "I will save the world by destroying it to end all pain!! MMMUAHAHAHA I'M NOT EVIL!!" type badguy.

 

[Dalisclock]

Spirits Within at least had a comprehensible plot, unlike most of the games, and it didn't involve a "I will save the world by destroying it to end all pain!! MMMUAHAHAHA I'M NOT EVIL!!" type badguy.

Or my favorite "I'm sad that my girlfriend keeps dying when someone messes with the future(by changing the present). I'm gonna mess up time myself, crash the universe and kill everything in existence in order to fix this problem". I'm sure that sounded more sane in his mind then it does to everyone else.

 

[Silvanus]

My big ones-- the Star Wars prequels, and The Matrix sequels-- have already been mentioned.


Also, Heavy Rain, which was a fun game, and The Dark Knight Strikes Again, which (while clearly not as good as its predecessor) was still great. The Dick Grayson bit was shite, but the rest was good.

 

[Xeros]

The Matrix: Reloaded is my personal favorite of the trilogy with Revolutions still holding up decently.

I loved the hell out of Tron: Legacy.

Van Helsing is among my favorite Hugh Jackman roles.

The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is one of my favorite movies, and what I personally consider some of Sean Connery's best work.

 

[Poetic Nova]

Alien Ressurection: won't top the first 2 movies, but atleast it was a huge improvement on the third one, which I just can't bring up to watch again (minus one particular scene).

Matrix Revolution: I'd say it is almost as good as the first movie, and it has some of my favorite moments in the whole triology. Reloaded was meh however.

Keep in mind, I consider these good if not great movies, so they might not completely fit the bill on what the OP ment..

Van Helsing is among my favorite Hugh Jackman roles.

The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is one of my favorite movies, and what I personally consider some of Sean Connery's best work.

These aswell. Won't call League a favorite, but the movie is nowhere as bad as people make it out to be.

 

[happyninja42]

Spirits Within at least had a comprehensible plot, unlike most of the games, and it didn't involve a "I will save the world by destroying it to end all pain!! MMMUAHAHAHA I'M NOT EVIL!!" type badguy.

Or my favorite "I'm sad that my girlfriend keeps dying when someone messes with the future(by changing the present). I'm gonna mess up time myself, crash the universe and kill everything in existence in order to fix this problem". I'm sure that sounded more sane in his mind then it does to everyone else.

Not sure which FF game that is, but it sounds pretty typical for that series, meaning batshit crazy. xD

 

[0986875533423]

The Thief reboot.

I was honestly unprepared for the amount of vitriol I've seen levelled at that game, from people I'm quite sure have not recently played Thief: The Dark Project (which is itself not a bad game or undeserving of its landmark status but has aged very very badly). I honestly didn't see much wrong with the reboot. The open world was decent, if irritating to navigate occasionally. The voice acting was good and in the case of the mook banter I thought the logical progression of the style of such found in the original game.

Of course it's possible that some truly heinous crimes against the series lay at some point more than three hours in that I didn't see because if there's one legitimate criticism of the game I will stand by it's that it runs like arse.

 

[MiskWisk]

]A few anime. Sword Art Online and Guilty Crown comes to mind in particular.

I actually like SAO, and Guilty Crown I just found to be mediocre, with an ending that the more I think about, the crueler it gets.

Also, the Dance in the Vampire Bund anime, but I think that was because I never read the manga. I've also only seen it once and barely remember it, but I remember liking it okay. On that note, though, I loved the Flowers of Evil anime.

I'd also put RWBY up there. To me it's just a fun little web series, and I don't think it's trying to be more than that.

Haven't seen Guilty Crown, but I agree on the other two. SAO isn't that bad although I do hold a lot of irritation for the sheer amount of potential story that just wasn't followed up on. I also enjoy RWBY, it's dumb fun that occasionally throws in some good writing.

I am also going to throw in a couple of my own. Dragonball GT for one. It improved greatly once they got out of that awkward first half of the first arc where it was trying too hard to be Dragonball in space and missing the mark. FF 12 also wasn't that bad, yes the story was generic for a Final Fantasy game (and isn't that an odd sentence) and Vaan was not suited to being a MC but I still felt it was one of the most mechanically sound FF games out there. I also do not understand the majority of the hate leveled at X-2 since I felt it was a nice game even if X's story had been wrapped up already.

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Or my favorite "I'm sad that my girlfriend keeps dying when someone messes with the future(by changing the present). I'm gonna mess up time myself, crash the universe and kill everything in existence in order to fix this problem". I'm sure that sounded more sane in his mind then it does to everyone else.

Not sure which FF game that is, but it sounds pretty typical for that series, meaning batshit crazy. xD

I believe that is the plot in XIII-2 with its incomprehensible time travel plot that was resolved in the sequel by rebooting reality and turning it into rural England from what I saw of the ending scene on youtube.