Jack Thompson Vows to Stop Medal of Honor
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I'm actually glad ol' Jacko is back. He amuses me to no end.
Thank you, Dom. I needed a good laugh when waking up this morning.Dom Kebbell said:In other news, a howler monkey screamed loudly and threw poop at visitors today.
What? one howler monkey story is as good as another.
Why is he still an issue among gamers?
He's not a lawyer or in any position to be a threat to the gaming community at large.
He already lost his career over his insane hatred over video games, and as best as I can tell he only had 1 major victory in his crusade with the founding of what would turn into the ESRB and it was a compromise that was necessary for the game industry to grow anyway.
He is on the same level as those assholes that protested Comic-con this year, in that he can do no real harm to the medium unless we as gamer let him set us off and we do something dumb (like sending him death threats) otherwise he's just a nut job the writes annoying letters that people of real importance have no time or interest in pay any attention to.
in the end he's just a media whore and nothing more.
He's not a lawyer or in any position to be a threat to the gaming community at large.
He already lost his career over his insane hatred over video games, and as best as I can tell he only had 1 major victory in his crusade with the founding of what would turn into the ESRB and it was a compromise that was necessary for the game industry to grow anyway.
He is on the same level as those assholes that protested Comic-con this year, in that he can do no real harm to the medium unless we as gamer let him set us off and we do something dumb (like sending him death threats) otherwise he's just a nut job the writes annoying letters that people of real importance have no time or interest in pay any attention to.
in the end he's just a media whore and nothing more.
The Danish Defence Minister said she found the product tasteless and supported Danish vets who didn't like it, however she also said she trusted Danish youths to distinguish right and wrong and wouldn't litigate against it which automatically gives her more brains than all of the politicians Australia has to offer, combined.
OT: I wonder, does this guy catch on to how things work? He starts poking in pies and the media gives the game free coverage. Just.. he knows he's no longer part of the problem anymore, right?
OT: I wonder, does this guy catch on to how things work? He starts poking in pies and the media gives the game free coverage. Just.. he knows he's no longer part of the problem anymore, right?
What's ironic is that the Army actually went through the game already to make sure the Taliban can't use it as an effective training tool, and they lent special ops advisors to EA. Also, America seems to have the least backlash over this game despite not portraying any Brits or Aussies or other Coalition forces. If anything, Gates probably laughed at this letter, because he knows how little other people know.
Good point. Only the Taliban have anything to worry about if they use Medal of Honour for training purposes.archvile93 said:
Realistic training tool? thats like saying anyone who can play wii sports is an olympic gold medal winner
i bet this guy wakes up every morning thinking "me has intelligent"
i bet this guy wakes up every morning thinking "me has intelligent"
"I am speaking on behalf of a number of people who believe that EA should not be selling such a game to minors"
So... EA then?
So... EA then?
derelix said:
Yes I did read your post and I answered it. We are not at war with "Gangsters" nor are they attempting to bring about the destruction of our entire society. Murdering criminals yes, but not a threat to our society as a whole.
Viewing our enemies as two-dimensional cut outs as you put it is exactly what we need to be doing when it gets to this level. The entire point of war is to destroy the enemy, and given human instincts part of what you need to do is dehumanize them. That's exactly what we did to the Nazis during "World War II" as I point out in numerous other posts. That's part of warfare and fighting.
One of our problems with the current conflict is specifically that we have too much morality and human empathy involved. During World War II for example we did what we needed to in order to destroy the Nazi culture. We bombed them worse than they hit England during the Blitz. We bombed farms, factories, houses, and everything else. Then when we arrived on the ground we pretty much rounded up every Nazi sympathizer and Volkssturm supporter and wiped them out. Groups like "The Hitler Youth" didn't magically disappear, we found those kids, put them against walls, and blew their heads off in the field. That's war, it sucks. The reason why we were able to wipe out the Nazis who were a powerful global moverment to a tiny radical fringe is because we dehumanized them to the point where even today you can do almost anything to them in the scope of writing with no moral qualms what-so-ever. We conditioned things to the point where our soldiers were able to execute an 11 or 12 year old ruthlessly because they no longer saw it as a child, but a Nazi and one of the enemy.
It's not pleasant to think about, but war sucks. Like it or not dealing with The Muslim World is no differant than dealing with the Nazis. Right now we suffer from the fact that the goverment did not take the threat seriously enough to invoke war powers and engage properly not only in the war itself, but on the field of information. Things like what "Medal Of Honor" is doing is not just a failure in promoting the war properly, but actively counter productive. It's like if someone was allowed to sit down and scream about continued isolationism, or what a great guy Hitler was and how we should join up with him during World War II. Both sentiments were very strong during the war, but both were surpressed while the goverment used a lot of counter-propaganda, some accurate, some lies, some stretching of the truth. People forget that the US originally wanted to stay out of affairs going on in Europe rather than being the global police we are now, people also tend to forget how charismatic Hitler was and that he was an international man of the year and won all kinds of awards. People also do not realize that the Nazis were an international affair, contrary to the Hollywood version, you did not have groups of Germans occupying everything with an iron fist. Things like the French Resistance were talked up and lionized after the fact when in reality they were pretty pathetic and unpopular during the conflict. Rarely do you see anything dealing with thousands upon thousands of French people putting on Nazi uniforms and joining the cause, to say nothing of Romanians and those from tons of other countries. You don't realize this, because they engaged in proper information control at the time, and while information was collected, it was not released until decades after the fact when it was both unpopular compared to the version in the mainstream history books, and unable to influance the war itself. To some extent we did the job too well.
Right now we need to be focusing on the problems we've been having with The Muslim World for decades before the entire 9/11 thing that was the last straw. Rather than having playable, and understandable members of the enemy faction in video games, we need to demonize them to the point where there is no sympathy for them irregardless of what we do to bring them down. That's what we did with the Nazis, put them outside of morality so they could be easily slaughtered and defeated entirely.
Oh just die already will you.
No one likes you and you are a washed up twat who can't let go of the past.
How old is this guy now any way?
No one likes you and you are a washed up twat who can't let go of the past.
How old is this guy now any way?
Well up until last night EBgames.com was listing the ESRB rating for that game as RP or Rating Pending implying that the ESRB hadn't officially stamped that big 'M' on it yet. I wonder if Jack(ass) Thompson is aware of that.