Japan May Make YouTube Illegal

[chadachada123]

I may be missing something, but how does this make Youtube illegal? None of the three specific acts mentioned in the article as being illegalized apply to youtube.

I'll quote the related part:

...and the intentional download of illegally uploaded materials...

In order to view a Youtube video, you must download it. It's the same horseshit that gets people in the US arrested on child porn charges for having once technically downloaded the image just by the image being onscreen, even if they didn't know it was there before they opened the page.

Viewing = downloading in the eyes of the law.

 

[RaikuFA]

Better to read it here than on Kotaku.

"We're glad it's happening, everything from Japan sucks" Wankers.

Wait, Kotaku said that? thought they all ate that foreign pop culture shit up over there?

I dunno. Every time I go on there theres some anti Japan article.

 

[ResonanceSD]

For SHAAAME Japan! Hopefully all of the Otaku over there know of this and are trying to fight it...

You're right, they definitely sound like a strong political force.

 

[him over there]

Better to read it here than on Kotaku.

"We're glad it's happening, everything from Japan sucks" Wankers.

Wait, Kotaku said that? thought they all ate that foreign pop culture shit up over there?

I dunno. Every time I go on there theres some anti Japan article.

Ah, I thought you meant the community and users. I agree that the news they report and the articles they right often seem biased towards the west, probably something about the difference between western and eastern game designs and how they seem to be working against each other. I mean even here people rag on JRPGs and praise choice in games, the conventions of most story telling in japanese games totally clashes with that though.

 

[Chilly8]

This will just increase VPN usage in Japan. People in Japan can just simply sign on to an offshore VPN to hide their activities.

 

[Chilly8]

I love the article title but laws like these already exist in america as well. The DMCA that was passed in 2010 made it illegal to rip or by pass any copy protection on dvd/bluray/game disc even for personal use. These type of laws are impossible to enforce/monitor, however they exist now for tack on charges if you are caught illegally downloading/uploading copyrighted materials.

However, the criminal penalties in the American DMCA only apply if you do it for commercial or financial gain.

 

[him over there]

So violating schoolgirl orifices is fine, but not violating copyright?

Makes sense when failing to show up in uniform means expulsion but using plagiarism for a school assignment is just fine.

Well... you should probably also mention the fact that the weird Anime porn is a result of the fact that live-action porn is illegal. They aren't exactly a liberal culture. In fact, they're about as conformist as you can get. The weird stuff is mostly a product of subcultures that are rebelling against the larger orthodox culture. The more extreme the orthodoxy, the more extreme the rebellion. But even given all of that I still absolutely adore traditional Japanese culture. (Not anime, I'm talking traditional Japanese culture like tea ceremony.)

Actually while live action porn is illegal the reason the animated porn is often more *ahem* exotic instead of merely being a live action to animation/illustration transition is actually because of, can you guess, internet piracy.

See the thing is vanilla pornography is available in an incredibly extreme excess for free thanks to the internet. So in order for money to be made the audience must be more niche in order to tap into a market that doesn't have a giant no charge go to option. That's why you get things like Maid girls eat cake with each other while being assaulted by tentacles 18 XXX XIV. That and the fact that the censorship is weird, like you can show sexual organs but not in their entirety. However it doesn't matter which part is omitted so you'll sometimes see censor bars hiding nothing in particular thrown around haphazardly.

 

[Storax]

Wow, really?

And I thought New Zealand's government was getting crooked. :I

 

[GLo Jones]

STOP. STOP. Hold the phone, guys.

Youtube is NOT going to be made illegal. Downloading videos temporarily (such as youtube videos) has been confirmed to NOT be affected by this law.

Only if you were to use software to download a youtube video to your hard drive would you potentially be breaking the law, and even then it would only be an offence if the video had been flagged for copyright infringement.

Edit: here, Gimmeaflakeman has done a good job explaining the details:

 

[RaikuFA]

Better to read it here than on Kotaku.

"We're glad it's happening, everything from Japan sucks" Wankers.

Wait, Kotaku said that? thought they all ate that foreign pop culture shit up over there?

I dunno. Every time I go on there theres some anti Japan article.

Ah, I thought you meant the community and users. I agree that the news they report and the articles they right often seem biased towards the west, probably something about the difference between western and eastern game designs and how they seem to be working against each other. I mean even here people rag on JRPGs and praise choice in games, the conventions of most story telling in japanese games totally clashes with that though.

Last time I was on there, they covered some 3DS game where you're a hostess(basically a woman who is paid to hang out with a guy at a bar) and the title said that that game made Japan set womens rights back 10 years. Now I'm no womens rights expert but if you're being given money just to hang out with a guy AND you're not stripping, whos the empowered one here?

 

[him over there]

Better to read it here than on Kotaku.

"We're glad it's happening, everything from Japan sucks" Wankers.

Wait, Kotaku said that? thought they all ate that foreign pop culture shit up over there?

I dunno. Every time I go on there theres some anti Japan article.

Ah, I thought you meant the community and users. I agree that the news they report and the articles they right often seem biased towards the west, probably something about the difference between western and eastern game designs and how they seem to be working against each other. I mean even here people rag on JRPGs and praise choice in games, the conventions of most story telling in japanese games totally clashes with that though.

Last time I was on there, they covered some 3DS game where you're a hostess(basically a woman who is paid to hang out with a guy at a bar) and the title said that that game made Japan set womens rights back 10 years. Now I'm no womens rights expert but if you're being given money just to hang out with a guy AND you're not stripping, whos the empowered one here?

I'm not going to jump into the whole women empowered versus stereotypes etc. that have been all abuzz on the forums recently but I hardly doubt a single game sets back women's rights ten years. One would think that the fact that these establishments actually exist is far more troublesome regarding inequality than a single game.

 

[WanderingFool]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's just one small part of a big conspiracy to force young Japanese to get off the internet. With the thought being that once their off the internet their young males will start making babies.

Cant watch anime on youtube? Get laid...

Is it bad if for whatever reason, I think that should be an official slogan or something?

Captcha: common law

Not sure how common this actually is...

 

[RaikuFA]

Better to read it here than on Kotaku.

"We're glad it's happening, everything from Japan sucks" Wankers.

Wait, Kotaku said that? thought they all ate that foreign pop culture shit up over there?

I dunno. Every time I go on there theres some anti Japan article.

Ah, I thought you meant the community and users. I agree that the news they report and the articles they right often seem biased towards the west, probably something about the difference between western and eastern game designs and how they seem to be working against each other. I mean even here people rag on JRPGs and praise choice in games, the conventions of most story telling in japanese games totally clashes with that though.

Last time I was on there, they covered some 3DS game where you're a hostess(basically a woman who is paid to hang out with a guy at a bar) and the title said that that game made Japan set womens rights back 10 years. Now I'm no womens rights expert but if you're being given money just to hang out with a guy AND you're not stripping, whos the empowered one here?

I'm not going to jump into the whole women empowered versus stereotypes etc. that have been all abuzz on the forums recently but I hardly doubt a single game sets back women's rights ten years. One would think that the fact that these establishments actually exist is far more troublesome regarding inequality than a single game.

Exactly. BTW heres the article

http://kotaku.com/5902563/this-japanese-video-game-sets-feminism-back-oh-a-good-hundred-years

Don't see why people like this site.

 

[him over there]

Better to read it here than on Kotaku.

"We're glad it's happening, everything from Japan sucks" Wankers.

Wait, Kotaku said that? thought they all ate that foreign pop culture shit up over there?

I dunno. Every time I go on there theres some anti Japan article.

Ah, I thought you meant the community and users. I agree that the news they report and the articles they right often seem biased towards the west, probably something about the difference between western and eastern game designs and how they seem to be working against each other. I mean even here people rag on JRPGs and praise choice in games, the conventions of most story telling in japanese games totally clashes with that though.

Last time I was on there, they covered some 3DS game where you're a hostess(basically a woman who is paid to hang out with a guy at a bar) and the title said that that game made Japan set womens rights back 10 years. Now I'm no womens rights expert but if you're being given money just to hang out with a guy AND you're not stripping, whos the empowered one here?

I'm not going to jump into the whole women empowered versus stereotypes etc. that have been all abuzz on the forums recently but I hardly doubt a single game sets back women's rights ten years. One would think that the fact that these establishments actually exist is far more troublesome regarding inequality than a single game.

Exactly. BTW heres the article

http://kotaku.com/5902563/this-japanese-video-game-sets-feminism-back-oh-a-good-hundred-years

Don't see why people like this site.

Kotaku is considered quite a joke among the people I know, also have you ever seen this video apparently about some sort of I assume it's a out sourced video user review from the site?

 

[TrevHead]

If Japan banned YT it would have a serious impact on skilled Japanese replays, Watching replays is a major tool for shmup players who are trying to perfect their runs.

With Gatch games been banned with GREE and CAVE who are partnered with them taking a big hit, things aren't looking too rosy in shmupland

Hehe Otomedious, i'm almost glad this series isn't available in PAL

 

[Callate]

That's really unfortunate. It's hard for me to imagine it will remain in place for long, however; it sounds like the kind of thing that only slips by because people haven't considered, or were unaware of, the ramifications. Around the time politicians or their children start to get charged for doing things they had until recently taken for granted, I rather expect the whole thing will blow up.

Japan is quite different from the United States, of course. But it's long seemed, from my outsider's perspective, like a place with a certain tolerance and discretion for what people do in private, especially in often crowded cities where maintaining a sense of privacy sometimes means discretely looking away.

 

[darksakul]

If this law applies to Japanese outside Japan, does that equally mean that it doesn't apply to non-Japanese inside Japan?

Also...how will the know if Japanese outside Japan watch Youtube videos?

Or worst applies some how to non-Japanese outside of Japan.

But then again this already works in other countries such as the US, as the US government found non-American individuals guilty of breaking US laws outside the US and successfully prosecuted.

 

[ReiverCorrupter]

So violating schoolgirl orifices is fine, but not violating copyright?

Makes sense when failing to show up in uniform means expulsion but using plagiarism for a school assignment is just fine.

Well... you should probably also mention the fact that the weird Anime porn is a result of the fact that live-action porn is illegal. They aren't exactly a liberal culture. In fact, they're about as conformist as you can get. The weird stuff is mostly a product of subcultures that are rebelling against the larger orthodox culture. The more extreme the orthodoxy, the more extreme the rebellion. But even given all of that I still absolutely adore traditional Japanese culture. (Not anime, I'm talking traditional Japanese culture like tea ceremony.)

Actually while live action porn is illegal the reason the animated porn is often more *ahem* exotic instead of merely being a live action to animation/illustration transition is actually because of, can you guess, internet piracy.

See the thing is vanilla pornography is available in an incredibly extreme excess for free thanks to the internet. So in order for money to be made the audience must be more niche in order to tap into a market that doesn't have a giant no charge go to option. That's why you get things like Maid girls eat cake with each other while being assaulted by tentacles 18 XXX XIV. That and the fact that the censorship is weird, like you can show sexual organs but not in their entirety. However it doesn't matter which part is omitted so you'll sometimes see censor bars hiding nothing in particular thrown around haphazardly.

Yeah, but the market is usually created to serve the demand, not create it. No doubt part of it is due to competition and specialization, but the niche that they serve probably only exists in the first place because of their censorship laws. But then again, we would cite women for indecency for showing their ankles about a hundred years ago, so who are we to judge? That's probably where foot fetishes came from, lol.

 

[Cecilthedarkknight_234]

I love the article title but laws like these already exist in america as well. The DMCA that was passed in 2010 made it illegal to rip or by pass any copy protection on dvd/bluray/game disc even for personal use. These type of laws are impossible to enforce/monitor, however they exist now for tack on charges if you are caught illegally downloading/uploading copyrighted materials.

However, the criminal penalties in the American DMCA only apply if you do it for commercial or financial gain.

They only need to establish if you intended to make or gain profit off of copy-righted material as well. It's the same with drug charges, it if your intent was not re-distribute or gain any profit off of any illegal drugs you have. You can still be held liable and charged based on the assumption that you would in end.