I'm not sure where I fall on this. I've worked several E3's as both a booth person with a very particular skill, not break dancing, and someone networking to get more work. I have to say that the "sex sales" aspect that developers and publishers alike bring to the show does ramp up every year almost to a fault. I would agree that it didn't seem very professional when masses of half naked or sexually suggestive dressed people were at a booth to promote a game. Most of the time they didn't even know what they were promoting, but that's not there job.Frasman said:Why not? Last time I was in Vegas, many of the hotels (Luxor, Caesars Palace, Excalibur, Imperal Palace) had buff, half nekkid male eye candy at prominent locations. Sprinkle some "Booth Bros" in a convention, and I'm sure many of the people complaining about the exploitation of women wouldn't half much ammunition.japlandweirdling said:Booth Boys? Bro's?
Good job Jim about pointng out the employment factor. It's something I would never have thought of.
I very interested, are you joking about getting a real job? If not, could you tell what a real job is? I very curious because as it happens I've worked many of these kinds of shows and I have to tell you, they are REAL PEOPLE who need REAL MONEY.Ishigami said:I say ban them.
And what about the jobs? - How about getting a real one?!
Because I have no respect nor sympathy for someone being paid for staying around? - So be it.Archangel357 said:This comment is actually way more sexist than the skimpiest booth babe outfit could ever be.Ishigami said:I say ban them.
And what about the jobs? - How about getting a real one?!
Construction site worker.Shiro No Uma said:I very interested, are you joking about getting a real job? If not, could you tell what a real job is?
Everyone needs money that does not mean you deserve it.Shiro No Uma said:I very curious because as it happens I've worked many of these kinds of shows and I have to tell you, they are REAL PEOPLE who need REAL MONEY.
Aviation maintenance technician.Archangel357 said:Just out of curiosity, may I ask which profession you are in?
You are making this a gender issue!Archangel357 said:Oh, so a job requiring MALE physical attributes is worthy of respect, while a job requiring FEMALE physical attributes is not.
Yeah, you should probably stay out of this discussion. I'm not saying this for myself, I just think that the people on "your" side of the argument would like to keep up their pretense of feminism and not have it completely shot full of holes by such manifest and rampant misognyny.
its call marketingIshigami said:Aviation maintenance technician.Archangel357 said:Just out of curiosity, may I ask which profession you are in?
You are making this a gender issue!Archangel357 said:Oh, so a job requiring MALE physical attributes is worthy of respect, while a job requiring FEMALE physical attributes is not.
Yeah, you should probably stay out of this discussion. I'm not saying this for myself, I just think that the people on "your" side of the argument would like to keep up their pretense of feminism and not have it completely shot full of holes by such manifest and rampant misognyny.
There are female construction site workers, there are female aviation maintenance technicians and there are male models.
I have a problem with people not producing or contributing to the production or maintenance of goods earning money thru said products.
"Fight to get ourselves taken seriously"?Ickorus said:My problem with Booth Babes has nothing to do with feminism or discomfort for their presence.
I just don't like how immature it makes gamers look as a whole, especially at a time when we have to fight to get ourselves taken seriously.
The question is: "are these comparable worse-s?" The point about "booth babes" is that while fighting for the apparent good of women you may be putting many women out of work. I feel a better comparison would be fighting to make coal miners healthier by getting them laid off from their jobs and telling them they'd be better for it.Nasrin said:It strikes me that people working in coal mines probably feel the same way. If you're saying that what they do for a job makes the world worse, not better, then losing their job as a consequence to your criticism seems fair, doesn't it?
Some very interesting and valid points there.Jimothy Sterling said:Booth Babes
The punditry of the videogame community have been chatting an awful lot about booth babes this past year or so.
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Then do it on your own. I will ignore everything related to that.Archangel357 said:You're damned right I am.
Ah yea right be an inch-picker.Archangel357 said:My father is a retired foreign service officer. I used to be in the armed forces, now I am in academia. My fiancée used to work at conventions as a translator. By your yardstick, my old man and I are completely useless (since neither civil nor military service, let alone the humanities, "produce" anything tangible), while my fiancée had actually the closest to what you would describe as a "real job", since she helped the manufacturing companies she worked for attract and communicate with customers.
And rarely any of them are needed.Archangel357 said:My point is this. Booth babes are an "evolution", if you will, of the tried and true booth girls which exist at literally EVERY type of convention/expo/trade fair [...] - some are there purely as eye candy, some have actual skills, and most are a bit of both.
You don't say.Archangel357 said:There is no expression dumber than "real job", because usually, people saying that have no idea what the others' jobs entail. There are douches in academia who think that all manual labour could be done by apes or robots; by the same token, there are people who think that only manufacturing jobs are "real", forgetting the fact that those goods need to be marketed somehow.