The irony is palpable.Beetlebum said:On the brighter side, it has given us one of the most accurate image ever:
You sound pretty enraged about it. I would appreciate your critique of how AirMech fits what you describe. AirMech Prime for $20 lets you buy the game. The free part lets you try it out. This is a good thing for gamers...canadamus_prime said:Wow, I don't think I've seen Jim so pissed off. He's right though, this practice is utter shite and should die in a fire along with every developer/publisher that utilizes it.
I haven't played that one. Although I have played a couple of games on Kongregate that use that business model. Although calling them games is being more than a tad generous since there is absolutely no gameplay whatsoever. This one called Time World is the worst. While technically you don't have to pay anything, all you do is sit on your ass and do nothing while you wait for your buildings to upgrade or your ships to be built or some other damn thing. And even when you get into the story the battles consist of sitting there watching ships shoot at each other with 0 involvement on your part. And of course you have the option to pay real world money to recruit additional heroes and presumably speed up building/research times and whatever. Ugh!CarbonJames said:You sound pretty enraged about it. I would appreciate your critique of how AirMech fits what you describe. AirMech Prime for $20 lets you buy the game. The free part lets you try it out. This is a good thing for gamers...canadamus_prime said:Wow, I don't think I've seen Jim so pissed off. He's right though, this practice is utter shite and should die in a fire along with every developer/publisher that utilizes it.
I noticed you and a couple of other people invoking people's right to free choice here, and that's fair enough. No-one wants to stamp on anyone's freedom. But I would say there's a grey area here.Imperator_DK said:...well, I'd think it the responsibility of adults to choose whether or not to play games which are mostly about how well you can remember your credit card number. I'll pass, but if others are up for it, fine by me.
And really now, who's to say that buying a magical sword with $5 of real money you earned on the job is any less meaningful than obtaining a magical sword you earned by using 3 hours of grind to kill 10,000 digital orcs beforehand?
Entertainment is pretty subjective, and if someone derive pleasure from owning a vast digital dungeon by virtue of spending $250 on it, that's pretty much their business. Certainly people have spent far greater amounts on things which are objectively equally worthless.
geier said:Well Jim what is so bad in this game type?
It's only going to affect idiots who pay, not you, me or any other sane person.
This would be the right time for a indy studio to create a "cell supervisor, vault guard, torture chamber steward, oubliette superintendent" game. The gamplay consists of little magical beings (gremlins, urchins, devilings) that maintain said structure underground and are guided by a supernatural entity. Switch the chicken for little piglets and we are set.
It's a free market Jim. With the outcry created by EA this game gets much free publicity. Don't get to upset about idiots and their games, you will live longer.
Were that we lived in a world of infinite resources that would be true. But alas this is not so, and when this pay to win scenario bubble bursts, as people like Jim keep telling it will, it will hurt the entire industry. If you see a person standing next to you using 100 tons of TNT as bonfire, will you just say: "oh well, that wont affect me"?geier said:Well Jim what is so bad in this game type?
It's only going to affect idiots who pay, not you, me or any other sane person.
This would be the right time for a indy studio to create a "cell supervisor, vault guard, torture chamber steward, oubliette superintendent" game. The gamplay consists of little magical beings (gremlins, urchins, devilings) that maintain said structure underground and are guided by a supernatural entity. Switch the chicken for little piglets and we are set.
It's a free market Jim. With the outcry created by EA this game gets much free publicity. Don't get to upset about idiots and their games, you will live longer.