Jimquisition: How Skyrim Proves The Industry Wrong

[BrotherRool]

So Skyrim has no multiplayer and no online pass and this proves the people claiming that running multiplayer on online servers costs money wrong? So not being able to pay for something that doesn't exist means anything?

Everything else was fair enough. Skyrim was is just another place and another type of game though. It does cool things but it's not always the sort of game I want to play.

 

[The Diabolical Biz]

Bad? Never said it was bad. Boring? Well, how many people does something have to bore to be boring? It bored me, and I can't be the only one, so I suspect it's a boring game.

Wait, what kind of reductionist view is that? Opinions, man! Learn the word!

Seeing as 97% of the site are gushing uncontrollably over this game, and how it's not boring them, saying that 'it bored some people ergo it's boring' is a frankly bizarre statement.

"Hey, man, I got hit by a car crossing the road. And I'm sure that other people have got hit by a car crossing the road. So when you cross the road you must get hit by a car..."

EDIT: Got distracted for a mo there;

OT: Yeah pretty much agree with you...end made me chuckle.

 

[Wes1180]

Hi psychonauts

Good episode

 

[Calico93]

While I loved this video because skyrim is one of my favourite games evar...
Battlefield 3 isnt COD !
Yes EA are marketing it to fuck like its the new COD, but im pretty sure BF has been around longer. Just saying. Someone had to.

 

[Lhynn]

Bad? Never said it was bad. Boring? Well, how many people does something have to bore to be boring? It bored me, and I can't be the only one, so I suspect it's a boring game.

Ah yes, if something bores someone in some fashion, it cant be fun, that makes sense.

 

[SnakeoilSage]

Vindication for Bethesda and Elder Scrolls fans, indignation for just about everyone else in the industry.

And double-vindication for me, because even though I'm a huge fan of Saint's Row 2, I went for Skyrim instead because it seemed to be offering more that was relevant to my interests.

 

[Something Amyss]

it's an open world game for at least 50+ hours... of course it doesn't need an online mode

Of course, he's arguing against people who say ALL games need an online component, so that argument falls flat.

and of course because it does not need an online pass because there is no such thing as server fees

Catwoman is single-player content locked behind an online pass. Sorry, but server fees are bullshit.

where do you come from to assume that any of that can say anything about any other game?

Reality?

ITT: Gaming hipsters with no standards for real quality.

ITT: People with no clue what a hipster is.

 

[Something Amyss]

Opinions, man! Learn the word!

Seeing as 97% of the site are gushing uncontrollably over this game, and how it's not boring them, saying that 'it bored some people ergo it's boring' is a frankly bizarre statement.

I like the fact that you tell him to learn the word "opinions" then call one a "frankly bizarre statement."

Since "boring" is subjective, it falls to opinion. He is certainly stating his. It really doesn't look like he's misrepresenting it as anything else.

 

[The Diabolical Biz]

Opinions, man! Learn the word!

Seeing as 97% of the site are gushing uncontrollably over this game, and how it's not boring them, saying that 'it bored some people ergo it's boring' is a frankly bizarre statement.

I like the fact that you tell him to learn the word "opinions" then call one a "frankly bizarre statement."

Since "boring" is subjective, it falls to opinion. He is certainly stating his. It really doesn't look like he's misrepresenting it as anything else.

What? You completely missed the point of what I was trying to say...if someone states their opinion as fact and is vastly reductional it is pretty bizarre.

But hey, man, that's just my opinion...

 

[CardinalPiggles]

So... what, this game is like the games industry's Jesus or something?

The ending made me go WTF big time.
Other than that...

IN YOUR FACE CALL OF DUTY! >=P

Don't you mean in your face BF3? That was the game trying to directly compete with Call of Duty.

In your fucking face EA, and DICE.

 

[dessertmonkeyjk]

What I find hilarious is that in a Skyrim thread yesterday, somebody commented that they wanted multiplayer. Whoever you are, you are not helping, be happy with single player because that is what it is all about.

He might have been referring to having a partner in the single player campaign so you can go slay dragons together and harass the populace. If you feel like killing each other then there's no stopping you and you don't need any sort of deathmatch mode to do it.

It's more of the kind of multiplayer style with how open the game world is on average. Skyrim is a perfect candidate for co-op or even MMO if the code is more tightly woven.

 

[praetor_alpha]

It also proves PC isn't dead, and it proves that they DO PAY FOR THEIR GAMES. At least a quarter million people playing Skyrim on PC at once (according to Steam). And Ubisoft is skittish that their piece of crap port won't sell 50,000 copies, and the DRM! Go die in a fire, Ubi.

 

[gallaetha_matt]

The ending scared the shit out of me. Yet I still wanted to do a sex with him.

It was like every girl I've ever dated but in a viking helmet. So, like every girl I've ever dated, basically.

Awesome video as well. I hope Skyrim's success does change the industry for the better, but I'm not optimistic enough to believe it will.

 

[ezeroast]

I think Skyrim would actually make great multiplayer, not MMO but joinable co-op.

Also I don't see the similarities between COD and BF3 apart from them being modern first person shooters. If you scrap the singleplayer that is and hell, why should every multiplayer game have a shitty tacked on singleplayer campaign?

 

[shrekfan246]

"And hell, we don't even need for it to work properly. It can freeze, crash, stutter, and lock up quests, and they'll still buy it purely on hype."
That's what I'm afraid of.

That's the thing Jim. Bethesda is one of the only companies I would be willing to pay an extra $10 to if they could promise that the game would actually work. EA and the rest of them can of course go fuck themselves with their $10 passes.

And yes, while I do regret buying Saints Row 3 (I had no idea it had an online pass or had half the game carved out for dlc before buying it: saints row 2 was so generous by comparison), I'm still glad I waited on Skyrim. I'll get it after they've patched it up a bit.

That's an epic ending too; I want some of what Jim's smoking.

Everyone always cries out that Bethesda games are always the buggiest things ever released and so Skyrim must be buggy too and yet, I've put 70 hours into Skyrim and outside of a few CTD's that have stopped over the last week, considering the size of the game it's the least buggy thing I've played this generation. Granted, I can only speak for the PC version, but I've probably only encountered one or two bugs in my entire play-time and none of them have effected the actual game in any way (apart from a dragon falling through the planet and respawning dead at its altar).

Take it with a grain of salt, obviously, because everyone always seems to experience a different number and type of bugs when it comes to Bethesda games, but I can honestly say that in my experience, Skyrim is pretty damn stable.

OT: Well, do I really need to say anything? Five pages in this thread, nobody except me is going to read the entire thing. Suffice to say, I agree with you Jim, like I usually do.

 

[VincentX3]

So... what, this game is like the games industry's Jesus or something?

The ending made me go WTF big time.
Other than that...

IN YOUR FACE CALL OF DUTY! >=P

Don't you mean in your face BF3? That was the game trying to directly compete with Call of Duty.

In your fucking face EA, and DICE.

Nope I still mean COD =P
That game is the equivalent of cancer

 

[Aureliano]

Bad? Never said it was bad. Boring? Well, how many people does something have to bore to be boring? It bored me, and I can't be the only one, so I suspect it's a boring game.

Wait, what kind of reductionist view is that? Opinions, man! Learn the word!

Seeing as 97% of the site are gushing uncontrollably over this game, and how it's not boring them, saying that 'it bored some people ergo it's boring' is a frankly bizarre statement.

"Hey, man, I got hit by a car crossing the road. And I'm sure that other people have got hit by a car crossing the road. So when you cross the road you must get hit by a car..."

EDIT: Got distracted for a mo there;

OT: Yeah pretty much agree with you...end made me chuckle.

That's a great point there. Next time people are ranting and raving about a game that you find boring, take comfort in the fact that it's just your opinion and you just don't understand how much you really should enjoy that game.

Edit: Also, I love that crossing the road example. Because much like an accident in the street, the game was not working as intended when I found it boring. For everybody else though it plays totally differently and is really fun like Bethesda designed it to be!

 

[Charli]

About the hat: GAME had them in store for the employees, we had some spare, so the brave customers who asked for them received them. I loved mine.

Nice job Jim.

 

[The Diabolical Biz]

Bad? Never said it was bad. Boring? Well, how many people does something have to bore to be boring? It bored me, and I can't be the only one, so I suspect it's a boring game.

Wait, what kind of reductionist view is that? Opinions, man! Learn the word!

Seeing as 97% of the site are gushing uncontrollably over this game, and how it's not boring them, saying that 'it bored some people ergo it's boring' is a frankly bizarre statement.

"Hey, man, I got hit by a car crossing the road. And I'm sure that other people have got hit by a car crossing the road. So when you cross the road you must get hit by a car..."

EDIT: Got distracted for a mo there;

OT: Yeah pretty much agree with you...end made me chuckle.

That's a great point there. Next time people are ranting and raving about a game that you find boring, take comfort in the fact that it's just your opinion and you just don't understand how much you really should enjoy that game.

Nahh, I'll just realise that there's a difference between 'It bores me' and 'It's boring'.

One is stating my opinion as an opinion, and one is stating my opinion as a fact.