- Feb 12, 2009
I see many people here saying that they will or have only pre-ordered a game they knew they would like. My question to these people is: How did/do you know?
Harker067 said:Yeah only a few companies (atlus, Cd projct red) have gotten a preorder from me in a long time. Almost anything else I'll wait and see probably months down the line. Hell I only got portal 2 last week.
you know what? one day game dev x is going to make a game that doesnt reach your expectations, then you'll be here screaming away on the forums about how game dev x killed your dog and sold your grandma into prostitutionvxicepickxv said:Pretty much the only companies that I can trust now for preorders are Atlus and Bethesda. Which is funny, because I know when I get a Bethesda product, I know it's going to be buggy
We-elll, in the case of Halo:CE Anniversary Edition, because it was already one of my favourite games ever (and the exploding grunts skull was too awesome to pass up). Though I'm guessing that one doesn't really count, since it was technically just a re-release with a texture mod and a shiny new case. That said, I'd never actually bought the original.jdogtwodolla said:I see many people here saying that they will or have only pre-ordered a game they knew they would like. My question to these people is: How did/do you know?
The finest episode yet! Flawless! Thank god for you Jim!Jimothy Sterling said:Previewed, Preordered, Prescrewed
Preorder culture expects gamers to trust developers more than ever, but how does that work when they inspire so little faith?
We can always go back to lawn darts ... They are only mildly lethal to friends and family.canadamus_prime said:It's this kinda of shit that has me convinced that the game industry is no longer worth my time or what little money I don't have.
Or not... I honestly can't remember the last time a game not hitting my expectations made me through a fit. I can't say I've ranted on escapist about any of my frustrations either I tend to avoid those threads. My pre-ordering is more about my appreciation of games past then about expectations about future games.Vault101 said:Harker067 said:Yeah only a few companies (atlus, Cd projct red) have gotten a preorder from me in a long time. Almost anything else I'll wait and see probably months down the line. Hell I only got portal 2 last week.you know what? one day game dev x is going to make a game that doesnt reach your expectations, then you'll be here screaming away on the forums about how game dev x killed your dog and sold your grandma into prostitutionvxicepickxv said:Pretty much the only companies that I can trust now for preorders are Atlus and Bethesda. Which is funny, because I know when I get a Bethesda product, I know it's going to be buggy
I'm well aware that is how i bought my first PlayStation one, game-cube, ps2 and so on. I don't really mind the pre-ordering system if used correctly, sadly most people just hop on and pre-order game hoping it will be good. I've been burned here before my-self back in 08 with square-enix's release of the last remnant for the xbox 360. I was thinking that this game looks fantastic, finally a hardcore jrpg for the 360 based on trailers, limited game-play footage etc. What we got was a mess and saddened me more as gamer, even a consumer of games in general but I learned from this mistake.LordLundar said:Layaways used to do that before they got largely phased out. In fact, the only difference between the two is with a layaway you were still paying in parts for something guaranteed to be there and in the expected condition instead of a promissory note that may not (and most likely will not) be true.Cecilthedarkknight_234 said:can I just give one defense to pre-ordering games from gamestop?? For some one that has limited finical means such as myself, it's a way of making small down payment for a game I really do want. Say for example Nisa is going to release disgaea 4 for the ps-vita in 2014. I really like the franchise already and trust their quality for making games. This will allow me a 3-4 month period to pay off a 30-40 dollar game at full retail price with out having to scrap up all that money in one-day.
Well it depends on the company developing the game. I would used Bethesda for example here when I heard they where making fallout 3. I really loved morrowind and oblivion "apically what their engine could do", so to see a fallout game in that environment had me giddy with joy. Then there is brand loyalty with established franchises such as Nisa strategy rpgs such as the disgea franchise.jdogtwodolla said:I see many people here saying that they will or have only pre-ordered a game they knew they would like. My question to these people is: How did/do you know?
Eh I don't see the issue since I just explained why this is a vastly different situation. Go ahead, pre-order, I rate the odds of infinite sucking at way less than 1/6. To be frank I think the only way to keep preorders alive if gamers smarten up is to do deals like that.karma9308 said:.....This is probably the worst place to put this, but you've really made me want to pre-order Bioshock:Infinite now.mike1921 said:http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/shooter/bioshock-infinite-na/Saviordd1 said:Snipp.
$10-$17 off for preordering. I think Jim and TB both neglected to say anything that really would always be against pre ordering a game for an actually tangible and significant benefit (It's so fucking rare a preorder bonus is significant they can't be blamed). For context: aliens pre-order came with fucking multiplayer skins. And it's from gearbox, who to my knowledge were heavily involved in duke nukem forever.
It's a risk versus reward scenario: In aliens the potential reward was fucking tiny and the risk was this scenario playing out right now.
Buggy =/= Crappy, which is probably why you still preorder Bethesda games. Granted the bugs can be astoundingly aggravating (I got stuck as a werewolf with the cursed ring of Hiricine and both quests to "stop" the badness went through without a hitch... except that the ring stayed cursed and my character stayed a Werewolf. On top of not being able to have a Follower because I dismissed Lidya which the game didn't register properly. ARGH, entire character pretty much down the drain since I didn't have any saved games from prior to joining the Circle.) but their games are still very good otherwise.vxicepickxv said:Pretty much the only companies that I can trust now for preorders are Atlus and Bethesda. Which is funny, because I know when I get a Bethesda product, I know it's going to be buggy.
Unfortunately, I get that A LOT! When I was going through uni as an undergraduate I hired people from time to time to edit my writing submissions that where to be peer reviewed. My background for better or for worse, has very little to do with "writing".Headdrivehardscrew said:Oh, wow. You came here with a heart full of emotions and a brain full of words, it seems.mfeff said:Reserves? "Jazz Hands!"
Awesome post, though. So awesome I found myself just skipping over and stop autocorrecting the spelling mistakes, instantly feeling stupid for being a part-time grammar nazi.
hahaha Tree ware! Working on stuff from time to time I still find some sympathy for the poor schmuck who gets stuck with the job of scenery. Load up skyrim tool box sometime and just count the number of wall textures. It's a thankless job. =DLicensed trees
Well, to be fair I expected this to happen sooner or later and A:CM was a perfect storm. Sega like Paradox not to long back gets taken for a ride. Remember Sword of the Stars 2? Paradox changed part of their development strategy thanks to that which included more progress reports from the studios as to the state of the products. Sega for better or for worse does publish the Total War series, which I find to be excellent. I can't pretend to know what the state of the union is with the studios or publishers, I imagine they are quite well aware of what it is they do.The whole Alien conundrum is, methinks, not easily wrapped up, but I believe I see certain similarities of the 'horse meat scandal' that seems to have a firm grip over major European countries and big-name, big-money food companies and the 'utterly shite games non-scandal' state of affairs. We're bound to (want to) trust big names (Findus, Aldi, EA, Activision), but the bigger they get, the more important streamlined everything gets for them, to keep a tab on costs and TCO and ROI and whatnot.
As obvious as it is, I think it would still be quite difficult to prove and nearly impossible to liable. The FPS in my book pretty much hit it's stride as a game "phenotype" (to borrow a bio word), with the Rainbow 6 Raven Shield series. I think the ARMA development has been interesting, and while the COD and BF franchises have created some breathtaking games, have really crippled "what could have been" in a rush to find that "market penetration" of Mario party with guns.They cheated and lied, and the crap they sold us is not worth any real time or money from average gamers, and it's bound to emotionally impact fans of the series in a very negative way. Aliens: Colonial Marines is cancer, ADD, depression and smallpox all rolled into one. It's a bad one.
Yucky bushmaster! Barrett M98B is in a league all it's own. Personally I wouldn't own a bushmaster.I like your little bit about the Bushmaster M98B. I like the story, genesis, history of how it came to be. It took inspiration and dedication and significant risk taking to get this thing made, not just dreamed about.
Depends I think on what technology we are discussing. The Cry Engine as an example is used by military, as well as a heavily modified version of the ARMA engines. Many of the game engines have commercial avenues outside of game development usually in the form of well, military, and sometimes commercial products for simulations.However, consider this: Currently, I don't believe important technological bits like Betamax or Laserdisc could happen in our current economical climate. Sony must prevail, one way or another, but I must admit that I haven't even bought so much as Sony TV for at least a decade, after pretty much twenty years of brand loyalty. I love my PS3, but from the top of my head, I can't think of a Sony developed or Sony funded title that really blew my mind lately. Was Journey funded by Sony? If yes, that's the one. The Sony party brawl thing - I haven't even played it once up to this point in time, and that can't possibly be a good sign.
That has been a pretty big change. Consoles where expected to sell 6-8 new titles during the life of a system by a household, if your dropping your purchases down, others are as well. Several big box stores have taken a pounding. Lot's of reasons for this, probably write a treatise on the subject.I got a heavy disconnect with EA going on, I ignore most of the shit Activision cranks out. From ten to twenty games bought per year I went down to... three to four titles a year. Everything else just makes me happier with less money, and most of the additional time I spend outside, with or without other people, seems so much more important and precious to me. Driving a car, skinning deer, burying a dog and teaching a new puppy new tricks and laying down the general rules of how not be an asshole seems so much more satisfying than playing crap games and even paying money for them.
We have enjoyed it, but I have a few nit picks with the title. Dark Souls is good stuff, very much enjoyed that as well. Although again, that is something of a rebrand of a previous From Soft. library... so I consider it to be the 7th or 8th game of a series. Very smart design decisions. I am happy with From Soft although I expect round 3 to be crippled looking for that market penetration.Yeah, I like Ni No Kuni. But I just can't be arsed to spend weekend after weekend dumping hours into it. I'll finish it, but I am much more likely to dump another hundred or so hours into Dark Souls, over the course of the months to come.