hazydawn said:
Yes, that's what it is (your second sentence). Yes, the individuals have different opinions. Which is exactly the reason why a country does not have a unitary opinion on something as you made it out to be.
When did I ever make it out to be like that? You said that countries where homosexuality is banned have people in there who never once thought that such an act was bad due to their upbringing. Which I replied stating that there are people within those countries who think so- they just don't have a leg to stand on at the current moment.
How the fuck was I supposed to know that you are black? So what's with the style of this question? And if you knew that what the fuck was your last argument on this supposed to be where you tried to make a distinction because "Many people genuinely believe (homosexuality) [is] immoral and deviant behavior."
Are you honestly reading my posts or are you just making reactionary replies?
The whole point of that post was that a lot more people were very aware of the fact that slavery was a shitty thing to do period. The same can not be said for homosexuality. Where most people see it as deviant behavior on par of bestiality.
Congratulations you're living in a world of utter moral relativity.
That's how it's always been dude. You think I don't know what moral relativity is?
Or maybe what currently is considered to be lawful? Either way your going with the trend and don't think for yourself. Let's say you were a slave back in the day and wanted to flee from your master to archieve freedom.
Why, then you'd have acted immoral because by the law you were his property and forbidden to do so. Probably not happy with that example either because everyone secretly knew that slavery was wrong, correct?
Yes. According to law what I'm doing is indeed illegal. However the other wonderful thing about moral relativism is that the people within it do and have changed their perceptions on what they once thought was morally sound. Then again you are also ignoring the fact that the Founding Fathers have long since acknowledged how hypocrtical they were in doing such a thing in the first place.
Oh my good sir. You not need to compliment me.
Oh, please show me where I made such a claim.
Sure thing.
You say I come to this moral judgement because I'm from a Western Culture. Which is true in the way that it allowed me to get in contact with certain ideas and arguments I wouldn't have been able to if I came from other places.
I'm taking the moral high ground because of my opinion which isn't exactly in keeping with the law, not because of what my country is currently doing.
But you also stated as quoted above that those opinions would never come to you have you of been brought up in a country where certain thoughts aren't allowed. So it's clear that although the laws themselves in the legal sense inhibit certain actions, the environment in which you were raised in would mean that the country as a whole has become so lenient that they had no issues wit you or other people to develop this idea to the point of a full fledged opinion.
Getting mad at them, creating controversy and voting with your wallet is the only language companies understand.
Not like it would do anything to Nintendo in this instance. They make more than enough money on this game in Japan. If it fails in the West then they lose little money over it. They simply keep it in Japan like it's always been.
You're starting to really disgust me and I'm getting the impression that you are not able to employ logic, so this will be my last response to you.
Sorry that differing opinions that don't simply revolve yourself and actually takes into account the global context disgusts you.
Would it help if I said you don't disgust me in the slightest? No? Oh well.
Then again you seem to talk down to me like I don't really know what I'm talking about.
If you can't respect the person your arguing with then you honestly are better off making rant blogs on Tumblr than having a "discussion" on a thread. Where it's expected to have people with dissenting views from you.
EDIT: Actually to clarify on the whole slavery bit, it's important not to confuse something that is unlawful with something that is immoral. They are two separate things. There is certainly an overlap between the two. Slaves running away from their owners and plantations was considered unlawful. But for those whose bottom dollar wasn't on the line, or were horrid racists they wouldn't see it as immoral.
But now you have other cases where bestiality is unlawful (well for the most part I guess) because it is considered immoral.
That's why homosexuality is in a tough spot. For a lot of the Western world we have shown for the most part that there is nothing immoral about being gay. The next step is to take down the laws that also make homosexuality unlawful. However it's not easy to do that when countries that have banned homosexuality entirely have a large populace of people that want it that way because they think it's immoral to back them up.