I think part of the problem with this is Poe's Law. I love Persona, and I love nothing more than taking jabs at it with my IRL friends. The problem is that when people are online, someone taking a light hearted jab at something is hard to tell apart from a scathing remark, and it doesn't help that in many ways, a lot of forums are being more overwhelmed by negativity towards games and how ones they don't like suck. So yeah, my two cents on the matter.
Jimquisition: Why So Serious?
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Ooohhhhh I can't wait for next week's episode. It's gonna be about the Microsoft Youtube fraud!
Silent Hill 2 is my favourite game of all time. Yet there's a whole plethora of things to laugh at in that game: stilted voice acting, bizarre characters, a protagonist who makes some strange choices and says dumb things, wonky combat system etc. But it's also incredibly good at what it's intended to do: horror. That's why it's my favourite; it makes me feel so many different things all at once.
I can't imagine not being able to laugh at my favourite things.
I can't imagine not being able to laugh at my favourite things.
There's another definition, but it's because of spelling. "Poe" named after Nathan Poe a nontheist user on a religious website who coined the term that unless someone uses some way of flagging sarcasm, it can be indistinguishable from someone being sincere.Stormwaltz said:
And on topic:
As someone who still regularly plays Diablo II and DOS games, I'm not so thin skinned that I can't let someone make a joke about something I like. I know that D2 is just a repetitive grind fest with a horrendously small plotline that has somehow taken on biblical proportions. Besides, if I can't laugh at myself, I know there will be plenty who would be happy to do it for me.
Wouldn't surprise me that those same people to which Jim refers are very quick to mock and laugh at others and others' interests, and then they'll have the nerve to tell people, when the inevitable backlash comes, that people should just chill and learn to take a joke.
ADDENDUM: Just went back to check out the "Joy Begets Anger" video (missed that one). Yeah, some hardcore gamers are just very large toddlers and not much different from a humorless religious zealot, a personality which likely many of those same hardcore gamers openly mock. Basically, these people just need to grow-up and get over themselves.
ADDENDUM: Just went back to check out the "Joy Begets Anger" video (missed that one). Yeah, some hardcore gamers are just very large toddlers and not much different from a humorless religious zealot, a personality which likely many of those same hardcore gamers openly mock. Basically, these people just need to grow-up and get over themselves.
I usually don't like Jimquisition a whole lot, but the intro song and the fact that everyone seems to like him makes me keep giving him another chance. Most the time it just seems like he's ranting in a very loud voice about stuff that should be spoken. Perhaps it is just because I don't really enjoy angry yelling.
Either way, this episode was awesome, I hate how trolling has devolved from tricking random people in Barrens chat to a term used on facebook by everybody. Jim brings up a good point that you're either complementing something or you're "trolling." Even if that "trolling" is just having fun. Playing a game. You know, what they're designed for.
Perhaps that is why my friends and I have so much fun playing games, if we see something hilarious, we laugh at it. Regardless of how much we enjoy the game. If something is funny, laugh at it.
Either way, this episode was awesome, I hate how trolling has devolved from tricking random people in Barrens chat to a term used on facebook by everybody. Jim brings up a good point that you're either complementing something or you're "trolling." Even if that "trolling" is just having fun. Playing a game. You know, what they're designed for.
Perhaps that is why my friends and I have so much fun playing games, if we see something hilarious, we laugh at it. Regardless of how much we enjoy the game. If something is funny, laugh at it.
To be fair, I don't think that gamers are always hating on laughing at ourselves.
Take, for example, Skyrim, or Fallout 3/New Vegas. The glitches and voice acting in those games have been the butt of endless, endless jokes: spinning heads, giants smashing players in orbit, objects and characters spazzing out, and arrows in the goddamn knees. Everybody loved taking the piss out of those bits, and I never really saw anyone hating on people who pointed out the hilarious glitches found in Bethesda games. Well, with the exception of the arrow in the knee. But that joke got old, man xD
Take, for example, Skyrim, or Fallout 3/New Vegas. The glitches and voice acting in those games have been the butt of endless, endless jokes: spinning heads, giants smashing players in orbit, objects and characters spazzing out, and arrows in the goddamn knees. Everybody loved taking the piss out of those bits, and I never really saw anyone hating on people who pointed out the hilarious glitches found in Bethesda games. Well, with the exception of the arrow in the knee. But that joke got old, man xD
Uh, no. "Po-Faced" means "a stern expression" - it has nothing to do with Nathan Poe, for whom "Poe's Law" is named.Breywood said:
While I agree that people need to lighten up about others making jokes about something they like, I really don't think this is limited to games. Loads of people in general seem to think that if you make a joke about something, it must be because you hate it.
K I'm going to try it: No more heroes was great, but why did every gay male character want to sleep with travis, and why didn't any of the women? Does he just admit a massive gay vibe? I guess he is a closet case considering how well he is able to jerk off "Other rods" ;D.
Seriously? This is a thing?
I've had my favorite games made fun of. Like how I played DDR in tournaments when I was a teenager, many of my friends and classmates made fun of it, or picked jokes because they didn't know it very well. ("Just stand on arrows, how hard can it be?") But I usually replied with that it's nice being able to 'flail around like an idiot in public from time to time.' or that 'tripping over your own feet to eurodance music is actually a lot of fun'.
Come on people, how hard is that?
I've had my favorite games made fun of. Like how I played DDR in tournaments when I was a teenager, many of my friends and classmates made fun of it, or picked jokes because they didn't know it very well. ("Just stand on arrows, how hard can it be?") But I usually replied with that it's nice being able to 'flail around like an idiot in public from time to time.' or that 'tripping over your own feet to eurodance music is actually a lot of fun'.
Come on people, how hard is that?