Jimquisition: Why So Serious?

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TwiZtah

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To be able to speak seriously about a subject, you need to be able to joke about it, otherwise it just shows that you are not able to distance yourself and look objectively.
 

Karadalis

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TwiZtah said:
To be able to speak seriously about a subject, you need to be able to joke about it, otherwise it just shows that you are not able to distance yourself and look objectively.
When does a joke stop being a joke and turn into a petty rant?

Personally i think its when you write an entire page long about nothing but the "joke".

"Get it guys? hehe... the audience... is really crappy looking... get it? Uh.. guys? Guys where are you going? Oh come on guys.. its funny!"
 

Elf Defiler Korgan

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Well, got to say it was correct (maybe not insightful). I am a major fan of tenchu, but damn that series was silly and ridiculously fun all in the same bundle.

Those npcs and the things they say, lol.
 

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You know, I have to say that I've found one of the best ways to disarm someone who's trying to insult or irritate you is to, as Jim said, laugh at yourself.

Someone takes a jab at you about your birth being a mistake and that you were intended for the tissue instead? Come back with, "Yeah, I know. My father reminded me of that regularly. He even bitched that the alternative to my birth would have been just as bad since he was out of Puff's Plus."

Nothing's more annoying to a troll than laughing off their insults.

canadamus_prime said:
One does have to recognize the difference between light hearted ribbing of something and legitimate trolling. Although that can be difficult sometimes.
And to complicate things further: nowadays people often start with a lighthearted ribbing, then, once it's become clear their jabs have bothered someone, resort to full-on trolling.

If there's one vice in this world that's reached extreme levels of prevalence, it's schadenfreude.
 

freaper

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There are few things one cannot joke about. Games are not among those things.
 

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I love Metal Gear Rising: revengeance, but obviously its not a word, things can only be epicly sliced in cutscenes, and Reiden still has dildos for high-heels. Still lovin every minute of that game regardless.
 

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Do I see?




Where we're going, you don't need eyes to see...

Someone out there still appreciates the classics.
 

Nurb

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You can't make jokes in gaming anymore, because now it "trivializes" this or "bashes" that, and games have to teach a lesson about it or they're contributing to "____ culture" or whatever.

To these over-sensitive people, a joke means you support the worst thing you can imagine now... but you can still write articles making fun of nerds and gamers though, because nerds and gamers all hate women now from what I hear.
 

Coakle

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I just about died when Jim did his 'It's a film reference bit'. Keep it up.
 

Saltyk

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I actually can understand this point. I'm a huge fan of Dragon Ball Z Abridged. That is one of the funniest shows on the internet and Team Four Star are a bunch of geniuses.

However, half the reason I love it so much is that I am a fan of DBZ. So the jokes about the characters are even more hilarious. The Krillen owned count is great because he sadly is owned so often in the series and I'm looking forward to so many future scenes like Cell hitting him into the side of a plane. Or his complete failure of a Destructo Disc on Cell. I'm looking forward to the Cell fight as you just know Piccolo will be proud of Gohan for finally dodging attacks and everyone's reaction to Goku during the fight should be hilarious.

So much stuff to look forward to. And I look forward to it, because I enjoyed the show and fondly remember it.

It's easier to make jokes about something you enjoy than something you hate. If you hate it, it just comes off spiteful. See all those spoof Movie movies. I can't help but feel those were often made with no love for the source material which is why they often fell flat.
 

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Only problem I come across frequently is that most people trying to 'joke around' aren't actually any good at it, so everything turns into shitty trolling instead of funny joking.
 

Brian Tams

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Jimothy Sterling said:
Why So Serious?

Jim makes a point about humor and defensive fandoms the only way he knows how - by dressing up in silly costumes and exploiting tired old film references.

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I don't know why, but this whole video sorely reminds me of the too often used argument of "You're not a real fan of the series if there's anything about it you don't like!"

Being a fan of a game doesn't mean I have to be joyless, and it also doesn't me I have to like everything about it, either.
 

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BrownGaijin said:
... Wait, this doesn't look ANYTHING like the Early Access video that I saw last week! It's a completely different topic altogether! Jim how could you! After investing perfectly good money I had all my hopes dashed when the final product is nothing like what I initially paid for.
I want my money back too, pal. Let us band together and fight the power!
 

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wombat_of_war said:
an excellent video with some very valid points but the issue is far more deeper and wide spread. one nasty side effect ive noticed since the net has developed into something pretty much everyone uses is that no matter what your beliefs or ideas you can now find some group that shares those views. now it sounds great in theory, people no longer thinking they are alone, having others they can share things with, etc

but the result is that absolutely everything has become polarised and people have become extremophiles. by that look at anything and you will find the majority of comments will be this is the best thing that has ever existed or this thing murders kittens, puppies, everything cute and good in the known or unknown universe

so grow the fuck up people! find something you absolutely love and find a few flaws in it, look for something you loath and find something good about it even if its the joy it brings someone else

i love alpha protocol but the hacking minigame is a pain in the ass and the pistol skill tree breaks the entire game, i also detest bioshock but the concept was interesting and the arrivial in rapture was frankly stunning and one of the best introductions to a game ive seen

brocolli is the exception though that shit is just plain wrong
I don't think this was a very good episode for the very reason you mentioned in the first two paragraph. The internet is full of people looking to be mad for any and all reasons. Regardless, if it's about videogames. I've been referring to them as "Faux Ragers". People who search the internet for something to be self-righteously upset about. Either it's a buxom videogame character, a celebrity who said or tweeted something silly, or a talking point from a political pundit. It's about the raging against people. Rather than having a constructive conversation, debate, or laugh about the given topic.
 

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Wow! Cesar Romero looks good for someone who passed away in 1994. =P Just joshing, Jim.

This topic is just another example of the Internet and "hardcore" gamers in desperate need to get the fuck over themselves. A lack of humor is not a sign of maturity, its a sign that says you're two steps shy of becoming a full-on sociopath.

Humor is a good thing. It's what gets people through tough times. When done right, it brings others together. But I can understand how its hard to tell the difference between good-nature ribbing and someone acting like an insensitive cocksucker. That last part can be blamed on the part portion of the Internet (and piss-poor comedies on TV and in movies) but just because someone tells a bad joke doesn't mean all humor is bad.
 

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Mojo said:
I still cant get over how the Sniper woman looks in Metal Gear Solid 5. Maybe her clothes (or lack of) have some sort of explanation that I don't get as I've not played any of the games myself, but come on. Why is every male character in that trailer dressed absolutely normal, but the one woman has super tight, revealing clothes and a tied together bikini. Shes not blending in with the environment or gaining any functionality from that outfit, but oh well...
Well, this IS Metal Gear after all. For all we know she's batshit crazy and her... minimalist outfit is just a refection of some psychological trauma.

Or, it could be that she's Just So Good at what she does she's become jaded and needs to wear that to challenge herself.

Hell, look at it this way; If you fight her, in your full combat gear and bionic arm, and she kicks your ass, imagine how bad that makes you look.