"Kill Castro" Mission Leads to Black Ops Boycott Call

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They lost all credibility when they didn't even properly research the game for the sole purpose of it being a game. Word of that gets out and we can chalk it up as another dismissed threat for the industry. I'd really like to see the count on that list.
 

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In other news, Mass Effect 3 is being boycotted for being "The best rape simulator".

By the way, you can't deny that the Bay of Pigs invasion did not happen, and despite it being a game that isn't exactly ultra-realistic, if you deny important events, you deny history. You deny history, you deny education for the kids.

Do you want to deny education for the children? Didn't think so.
 

Xan Krieger

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Straight from their contact us page
Contact
Alliance for Global Justice Headquarters
1247 E St., SE
Washington, DC 20003
(202) 540-8336
[email protected]

Chuck Kaufman
National Co-Coordinator
(202) 540-8336 (ext. 500)
[email protected]

Kathy Hoyt
National Co-Coordinator
(202) 540-8336 (ext. 501)
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James Jordan
National Co-Coordinator
(202) 540-8336 (ext. 502)
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Jamie Way
Communications and Media Coordinator
(202) 540-8336 (ext. 503)
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Robert Moses
Accountant
(202) 540-8336 (ext. 504)
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Someone please inform them to firstly get their facts straight and secondly tell them that it's the parent's fault their kids get these games and it's not the retailers fault as most places already check IDs so the kid can't get the game unless mommy or daddy says it's ok.

Counter_Southpaw said:
I support boycotting this game. Want to know why? Imagine yourself as Fidel Castro right now. Thousands of people around the world are playing a game where the focus of a mission is to kill you. How would you feel? Probably not good, I know I wouldn't. This isn't some fictional video game villain; this is a real person, guys. Have a heart. Castro has done much for Cuba, look to your fucking history before you decide to jump into this argument for the sake of protecting your video game.

I refuse to encourage the murder of a real person; whether in fictional terms or not.
But this is a bad guy, this is the guy who allowed Russia to put nuclear missiles in Cuba. It's OK to have a game about killing someone who helped bring the world closer to nuclear war just so he could be buddies with Russia.
 

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over reaction of the year goes to these people.

oh and if they find that shooting and stabbing people is pornography i really would NOT want to see their actual porn.
 

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Also i'd just like to point out you assissinate the fucking pope in assassins creed 2, so shooting at castro a guy who americans wanted dead for a long time is bad but assassinating a pope isn't?

the mind boggles

(sorry for double post)
 

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You'd think an organization that has a cool name like Alliance for Global Justice lives up to said name. Sadly, this is the real world and it doesn't. And why is called pornography? You're supposed to put a bullet in Fidel Castro, not your dick!
 

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HK_01 said:
*facepalm*

Why can all other forms of media do pretty much what they want and something as insignificant as this causes an outcry just because it's a game?
Easy target.
 

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"Violate of your community's values"? Okay, unless we're actually trying to assassinate a political leader, that argument holds no ground.
 

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Counter_Southpaw said:
I support boycotting this game. Want to know why? Imagine yourself as Fidel Castro right now. Thousands of people around the world are playing a game where the focus of a mission is to kill you. How would you feel? Probably not good, I know I wouldn't. This isn't some fictional video game villain; this is a real person, guys. Have a heart. Castro has done much for Cuba, look to your fucking history before you decide to jump into this argument for the sake of protecting your video game.

I refuse to encourage the murder of a real person; whether in fictional terms or not.

You'd have perhaps a point, if you actually killed Castro in the game.
 

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Counter_Southpaw said:
I support boycotting this game. Want to know why? Imagine yourself as Fidel Castro right now. Thousands of people around the world are playing a game where the focus of a mission is to kill you. How would you feel? Probably not good, I know I wouldn't. This isn't some fictional video game villain; this is a real person, guys. Have a heart. Castro has done much for Cuba, look to your fucking history before you decide to jump into this argument for the sake of protecting your video game.

I refuse to encourage the murder of a real person; whether in fictional terms or not.
I agree with you completely, except that I'm not boycotting the game because the rest of the single player is actually alright and all of my friends are playing the multiplayer.

Fidel Castro is not a bad guy, or an evil person. Honestly, where do Americans get this bullshit from? Is it the whole anti-communist propaganda movement that their parents were hooked on then passed to their children?

Get this: Communism does not equal bad in all cases. Yeah, it screwed over Vietnam. Yes, the Soviets took advantage of it. But Cuba? It greatly improved the quality of life when they took out the dictator that the Americans put in charge.

Like I've said in other posts, I wonder how Ah-murr-ica would react to a game where you start in a bar in Dallas, massacre a bunch of cops, then shoot John F Kennedy. Then Jacqueline Kennedy pulls out a shotgun, your friend shoots her and says, "His followers were fanatic in their support" and riddles JFK's corpse with bullets.
 

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Sturmdolch said:
Counter_Southpaw said:
I support boycotting this game. Want to know why? Imagine yourself as Fidel Castro right now. Thousands of people around the world are playing a game where the focus of a mission is to kill you. How would you feel? Probably not good, I know I wouldn't. This isn't some fictional video game villain; this is a real person, guys. Have a heart. Castro has done much for Cuba, look to your fucking history before you decide to jump into this argument for the sake of protecting your video game.

I refuse to encourage the murder of a real person; whether in fictional terms or not.
I agree with you completely, except that I'm not boycotting the game because the rest of the single player is actually alright and all of my friends are playing the multiplayer.

Fidel Castro is not a bad guy, or an evil person. Honestly, where do Americans get this bullshit from? Is it the whole anti-communist propaganda movement that their parents were hooked on then passed to their children?

Get this: Communism does not equal bad in all cases. Yeah, it screwed over Vietnam. Yes, the Soviets took advantage of it. But Cuba? It greatly improved the quality of life when they took out the dictator that the Americans put in charge.

Like I've said in other posts, I wonder how Ah-murr-ica would react to a game where you start in a bar in Dallas, massacre a bunch of cops, then shoot John F Kennedy. Then Jacqueline Kennedy pulls out a shotgun, your friend shoots her and says, "His followers were fanatic in their support" and riddles JFK's corpse with bullets.
I think it might also have to do with Castro asking the Kremlin permission to launch the nukes he was given. Russia said no thank god because they weren't that fucking stupid and had no interest in ending the world. Another issue is I don't think there is any case of a communist dictatorship working nearly as well and a proper semi capitalist economy. Also, there is a game where you can shoot Kennedy, JFK Reloaded. Hell, it's even pretty much stated in Black Ops that Mason was Kennedy's real killer.
 

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archvile93 said:
I think it might also have to do with Castro asking the Kremlin permission to launch the nukes he was given. Russia said no thank god because they weren't that fucking stupid and had no interest in ending the world. Another issue is I don't think there is any case of a communist dictatorship working nearly as well and a proper semi capitalist economy. Also, there is a game where you can shoot Kennedy, JFK Reloaded. Hell, it's even pretty much stated in Black Ops that Mason was Kennedy's real killer.
First off, Castro did not "[ask] the Kremlin for permission to launch the nukes he was given". He sent a letter to Khruschev asking him to launch the nukes because they weren't given to Castro at all. He let the Soviets set up the missiles in Cuba because he feared an American invasion, a fear not at all unwarranted considering the previous year's Bay of Pigs invasion. Not to mention the multiple attempts on Castro's life by the CIA.

There are so many examples of America being a bully nation to Cuba. Crippling Cuba's economy was not enough. Check out this article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods]. The CIA wanted to launch terrorist attacks on US cities and blame them on Cuba.

The United States has a large history of state-sponsored terrorism [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state_terrorism#Cuba_.281959-present.29] against Cuba. In Havana, I saw that they have a memorial of a hundred or so black flags in memorial to all the victims of US terrorism.


Castro didn't want to end the world. He wanted to protect his nation from the bullies to the north.

And also, the game where you can shoot Kennedy isn't a mainstream title that is now one of the best-selling games on the market.
 

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Sturmdolch said:
archvile93 said:
I think it might also have to do with Castro asking the Kremlin permission to launch the nukes he was given. Russia said no thank god because they weren't that fucking stupid and had no interest in ending the world. Another issue is I don't think there is any case of a communist dictatorship working nearly as well and a proper semi capitalist economy. Also, there is a game where you can shoot Kennedy, JFK Reloaded. Hell, it's even pretty much stated in Black Ops that Mason was Kennedy's real killer.
First off, Castro did not "[ask] the Kremlin for permission to launch the nukes he was given". He sent a letter to Khruschev asking him to launch the nukes because they weren't given to Castro at all. He let the Soviets set up the missiles in Cuba because he feared an American invasion, a fear not at all unwarranted considering the previous year's Bay of Pigs invasion. Not to mention the multiple attempts on Castro's life by the CIA.

There are so many examples of America being a bully nation to Cuba. Crippling Cuba's economy was not enough. Check out this article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods]. The CIA wanted to launch terrorist attacks on US cities and blame them on Cuba.

The United States has a large history of state-sponsored terrorism [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state_terrorism#Cuba_.281959-present.29] against Cuba. In Havana, I saw that they have a memorial of a hundred or so black flags in memorial to all the victims of US terrorism.


Castro didn't want to end the world. He wanted to protect his nation from the bullies to the north.

And also, the game where you can shoot Kennedy isn't a mainstream title that is now one of the best-selling games on the market.
And launching nukes at the United States was an acceptable solution? I'm not talking about moral uncertainty here, I'm talking about basic logic. Had that gone through every Cuban and the magority of the world's population would have certainly died from nuclear weapons.
 

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Alliance for Global Justice sounds like the name for a cheesy superhero group.

OT: Bleh, this old dribble again. A group of people who have never played games in their life are blaming them for causing non-existant effects on children, despite the fact the game is rated 18, meaning children can only really get the game through their parents.
All of this, times a thousand. Alliance for Global Justice sounds like a parody of the Justice League or something, full of made up superheroes for PSAs.

And they should try and target the parents who buy the kids the mature games, not the developers or retailers. I'm surprised that nobody's come up with that sort of an idea to "protect kids from the nasty, evil games".

EDIT: also, they have a group with the name "Allience of Global Justice", so what do they decide to do? Fight crime? End war? Reduce poverty? Help the needy? No, they choose to crap all over freedom of speech. Who seriously thinks like that?!
 

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archvile93 said:
Sturmdolch said:
archvile93 said:
I think it might also have to do with Castro asking the Kremlin permission to launch the nukes he was given. Russia said no thank god because they weren't that fucking stupid and had no interest in ending the world. Another issue is I don't think there is any case of a communist dictatorship working nearly as well and a proper semi capitalist economy. Also, there is a game where you can shoot Kennedy, JFK Reloaded. Hell, it's even pretty much stated in Black Ops that Mason was Kennedy's real killer.
First off, Castro did not "[ask] the Kremlin for permission to launch the nukes he was given". He sent a letter to Khruschev asking him to launch the nukes because they weren't given to Castro at all. He let the Soviets set up the missiles in Cuba because he feared an American invasion, a fear not at all unwarranted considering the previous year's Bay of Pigs invasion. Not to mention the multiple attempts on Castro's life by the CIA.

There are so many examples of America being a bully nation to Cuba. Crippling Cuba's economy was not enough. Check out this article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods]. The CIA wanted to launch terrorist attacks on US cities and blame them on Cuba.

The United States has a large history of state-sponsored terrorism [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state_terrorism#Cuba_.281959-present.29] against Cuba. In Havana, I saw that they have a memorial of a hundred or so black flags in memorial to all the victims of US terrorism.


Castro didn't want to end the world. He wanted to protect his nation from the bullies to the north.

And also, the game where you can shoot Kennedy isn't a mainstream title that is now one of the best-selling games on the market.
And launching nukes at the United States was an acceptable solution? I'm not talking about moral uncertainty here, I'm talking about basic logic. Had that gone through every Cuban and the magority of the world's population would have certainly died from nuclear weapons.
Think about it this way. When you're antagonizing a kid that has nothing to fight back with, you have little to fear, right? Well, give said kid a rock and suddenly you're a lot more careful with him. Nuclear armament was a way for Cuba to guarantee its own safety as a developing Caribbean nation pertaining to the Communist sphere. They are literally a stone's throw distance away from the United States, so arming themselves was essential.

Back to the topic though, an attempt on someone's life is considered a crime in most nations of this world.
 

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Counter_Southpaw said:
archvile93 said:
Sturmdolch said:
archvile93 said:
I think it might also have to do with Castro asking the Kremlin permission to launch the nukes he was given. Russia said no thank god because they weren't that fucking stupid and had no interest in ending the world. Another issue is I don't think there is any case of a communist dictatorship working nearly as well and a proper semi capitalist economy. Also, there is a game where you can shoot Kennedy, JFK Reloaded. Hell, it's even pretty much stated in Black Ops that Mason was Kennedy's real killer.
First off, Castro did not "[ask] the Kremlin for permission to launch the nukes he was given". He sent a letter to Khruschev asking him to launch the nukes because they weren't given to Castro at all. He let the Soviets set up the missiles in Cuba because he feared an American invasion, a fear not at all unwarranted considering the previous year's Bay of Pigs invasion. Not to mention the multiple attempts on Castro's life by the CIA.

There are so many examples of America being a bully nation to Cuba. Crippling Cuba's economy was not enough. Check out this article [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods]. The CIA wanted to launch terrorist attacks on US cities and blame them on Cuba.

The United States has a large history of state-sponsored terrorism [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_state_terrorism#Cuba_.281959-present.29] against Cuba. In Havana, I saw that they have a memorial of a hundred or so black flags in memorial to all the victims of US terrorism.


Castro didn't want to end the world. He wanted to protect his nation from the bullies to the north.

And also, the game where you can shoot Kennedy isn't a mainstream title that is now one of the best-selling games on the market.
And launching nukes at the United States was an acceptable solution? I'm not talking about moral uncertainty here, I'm talking about basic logic. Had that gone through every Cuban and the magority of the world's population would have certainly died from nuclear weapons.
Think about it this way. When you're antagonizing a kid that has nothing to fight back with, you have little to fear, right? Well, give said kid a rock and suddenly you're a lot more careful with him. Nuclear armament was a way for Cuba to guarantee its own safety as a developing Caribbean nation pertaining to the Communist sphere. They are literally a stone's throw distance away from the United States, so arming themselves was essential.

Back to the topic though, an attempt on someone's life is considered a crime in most nations of this world.
Arming and trying to destabalize the enemy, that's a good point. It's not entirely unreasonable to not want a government right next door that's in league with, and I know this sounds saturday morning cartoony, your arch enemy. A nation the the US had every right to be wary of. The one that flat out stated was their ultimate goal of spreading their system around the entire world. A nation that stated "We will bury them." Though I heard that line was taken out of context, can't be certain though. Also, I don't think you're listening, he literally petitioned Russia not to give him missles, but to actually launch them and start WW3.
 

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Fumbleumble said:
I'd love to see a game get made where you get to kill American Presidents...

Then we'd REALLY see if people thought it was 'just a game'
Look at the different Presidents. Now look at your hand. Now back to the Presidents. Now look at the opinions voiced over the years about these presidents. Now back to me. A game where people would have a chance to assassinate the Presidents Assassin's Creed-style without the FBI knocking down their doors in an hour? That would be the best-selling game in America, easy.

I'm on a boat.