"Kill Castro" Mission Leads to Black Ops Boycott Call

The Harkinator

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Whats the point? The CIA tried to kill Castro 628 times and there was even a book called 628 ways to kill Castro. If that isnt evilly terrible dont know what is. In interviews Castro laughs off assasination attempts when they became regular things.
 

sirkai007

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If parents are doing their job, then children won't be playing these ultra violent games. They were never meant for kids.
 

Falqour

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So... They classify this game as "pornography" and demand its boycott - but do nothing about actual pornography? Last time I checked, you can buy actual porn magazines in pretty much every convenience store in North America. And when I was a kid, man, I would've loved to get my hands on some of those. Though, your modern young teen doesn't even need to go farther than Google with safesearch turned off. So I guess what I'm saying is, let's ban Google.
 

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I think calling for a ban of this game is going too far--free speech and all that. Just because you disagree with something doesn't mean you should try to get the government to forcefully silence it. But I can definitely understand why a lot of people would be very upset and speak out against it. How fucked up would it be if somebody made a game where one of the things the player must do is assassinate YOU? The fact that the game is selling tons of copies only makes it creepier!

And keep in mind this is not just good clean fun, like assassinating Hitler--Hitler died long ago, and his own people were trying to kill him. He is almost universally reviled as a genocidal madman, even by the country he once ruled over, and you can argue that assassinating him might have averted the colossal bloodbath that was WWII. Fidel Castro is still alive, and the US tried hundreds of times to arrange his death or kill him directly. There are lots of people in the world who admire Castro as a man who stood up to the greedy and power hungry US and refused to be corrupted by its bribes, and if he had been assassinated it would have meant that the US would have been able to exert unchallenged and absolute control over the entire western hemisphere.

Those of us who live in the US like to think that we are the ragtag, freedom loving people who stand up against the Evil Empire. But we need to realize that, to the rest of the world, we kind of ARE the Evil Empire. Imagine if the Soviets had had video games and they made one where the player assassinates the leader of West Germany--I bet that is how a lot of people in the world see this game. And think how bent out of shape we would have gotten if another country released a highly successful and highly profitable game where the player assassinates President Bush?

Personally, I think a lot of these war games are very creepy. They seem like a very powerful and insidious form of propaganda to me. Some of you out there may make fun of people who get outraged and upset about this sort of violence, but you would do well to take an honest look at yourselves and make sure you aren't actually being brainwashed by games where you play as Ideal American Hero #347 and bravely fight to ensure the victory and dominance of America over its enemies.
 

The Hairminator

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CloggedDonkey said:
Wait, you mean a Call of Duty game has *gasp* controversy? HOW CAN THIS BE?!?!?!/1

Yeah, not shocked in the least. Activision gets off to this shit, as it's free publicity, and I'm not surprised that they didn't have the first level you burning down a village of Vietnamese children and then violently raping all of them while shooting their parents. They're probably saving that for the sequel, come to think about it...
IT ADDS ATMOSPHERE D:

Also, at this one time, you put broken glass in a guy's mouth and punch him in the jaw. Then he fights with you the whole level.
 

coolman9899

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OMFG ITS MOH ALL OVER AGAIN their probably recall the game and change his name to opposing leader and the town to opposing country...:mad:
 

Mr.Squishy

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Oh hey, I got a nice idea - try setting the next call of duty game in the US and have the player try to assassinate one of the presidents of the last year. Why? Because obviously COD is begging for controversy - and why not? BLACK OPS ALREADY SOLD BETTER THAN MW2 *facepalm*. I..I fucking hate people now. It'll be over tomorrow, but right now, I hate people. "dealing pornography" my ass..
 

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HuntrRose said:
Desert Tiger said:
HuntrRose said:
runedeadthA said:
KaosuHamoni said:
It's not even fucking Castro. Its a decoy. -.-

OT: So what. Its a fucking video game. Get over it.

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Onyx Oblivion said:
What would happen if the public discovered some of the shit that goes down in Shin Megami Tensei?

o_O

And for the last time, it's not meant for children. DO YOUR FUCKING JOB AS A PARENT!
I second that motion...

[sub]On the ocean...



[sub][sub]Do the Ocean Motion...[/sub][/sub][/sub]
Its hilarious that they act all high and mighty about these mainstream games N stuff when they have NO IDEA how bad other things can be, compared to Certain-Things-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named Black ops is positively Tame.

Besides if they're trying to turn me against Castro, they're doing a bad job. he may be a Dangerous Dictator, but the guy has Style.
If by Dangerous Dictator you mean Person-Who-Wanted-The-Best-For-His-Country-And-Not-US-Companies, then I agree. He was actually not even a communist, untill the US blocked forced Cuba to do buisness with the USSR. The USSR made certain demands, and here we are...
You know he was trying to persuade Russia to nuke America, right? Then there was the whole Cuba Missile Crisis thing...

But to be honest, especially when it comes to Latin America, leaders are always in the grey area. Even El Che, a celebrated freedom fighter and one of the most influential revolutionaries of the 20th century was known to execute his own soldiers personally if they retreated.

Case in point - Castro may have done some very good things, but he did some extremely bad things to do them.
Have you really read up on Cold War history? The cuban missile crisis came because USSR wanted to place medium range ballistic nuclear missiles on cuba in reponse to the US deployment of similar missiles in West Germany.

The US got scared because the USSR was deploying missiles within range of the US when they already had missiles in range of the USSR. It's like slapping someone in the face then threatning to blow up a kindergarten when they wanna slap you back for it.
Actually, they were in Turkey and Italy, not West Germany.

But let me repeat - HE WANTED RUSSIA TO LAUNCH NUKES AT THE US. No threat. No demands.
 

DustyDrB

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I can understand a country banning a game that has an assassination of one of it's real life leaders. Even if it's a guy who hasn't been noble in his life, we need not feign disbelief on this bit of news.
 

hermes

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Stuff like A Serbian Movie is made, and they exibit it on a festival.
Something like this gets made, and all of a sudden "Ohh, they are trying to corrupt our kids with pornography".

I can understand how some people would be unconfortable with the scene, I can understand some people not liking it or not liking their childrens to see it. For all those people, there is always an option: JUST DON'T BUY IT.

Shit, I don't like Twilight, yet I am not marching around the cinemas with pikes and torches because it sets a bad example to our youth... I just choose to stay away from it.
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
What would happen if the public discovered some of the shit that goes down in Shin Megami Tensei?

o_O

CoD:BO is a RPG now, it seems. When do you "level up" in Black Ops, exactly?

And for the last time, it's not meant for children.

[HEADING=2]DO YOUR FUCKING JOB AS A PARENT![/HEADING]
Multiplayer content. You gain experiance, level up, and get gold to buy new equipment. Unlike a traditional RPG leveling does not improve your capabilities just expands your options (except in the case of perks, mind).
 

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Helmutye said:
I think calling for a ban of this game is going too far--free speech and all that. Just because you disagree with something doesn't mean you should try to get the government to forcefully silence it. But I can definitely understand why a lot of people would be very upset and speak out against it. How fucked up would it be if somebody made a game where one of the things the player must do is assassinate YOU? The fact that the game is selling tons of copies only makes it creepier!

And keep in mind this is not just good clean fun, like assassinating Hitler--Hitler died long ago, and his own people were trying to kill him. He is almost universally reviled as a genocidal madman, even by the country he once ruled over, and you can argue that assassinating him might have averted the colossal bloodbath that was WWII. Fidel Castro is still alive, and the US tried hundreds of times to arrange his death or kill him directly. There are lots of people in the world who admire Castro as a man who stood up to the greedy and power hungry US and refused to be corrupted by its bribes, and if he had been assassinated it would have meant that the US would have been able to exert unchallenged and absolute control over the entire western hemisphere.

Those of us who live in the US like to think that we are the ragtag, freedom loving people who stand up against the Evil Empire. But we need to realize that, to the rest of the world, we kind of ARE the Evil Empire. Imagine if the Soviets had had video games and they made one where the player assassinates the leader of West Germany--I bet that is how a lot of people in the world see this game. And think how bent out of shape we would have gotten if another country released a highly successful and highly profitable game where the player assassinates President Bush?

Personally, I think a lot of these war games are very creepy. They seem like a very powerful and insidious form of propaganda to me. Some of you out there may make fun of people who get outraged and upset about this sort of violence, but you would do well to take an honest look at yourselves and make sure you aren't actually being brainwashed by games where you play as Ideal American Hero #347 and bravely fight to ensure the victory and dominance of America over its enemies.
Half Life - Scientist fighting AGAINST the US military
Half Life 2 - Scientist fighting against alien military. In Siberia.
Halflife: Opposing force - US soldier fighting aliens and chasing scientist from above games
Borderlands - 1 of 4 treasure hunters on an alien planet
Star Wars: Jedi Knight Outcast - Jedi, fighting Imperial Soldiers
Fallout 3 - some person surviving in a post apocolyptic wasteland

and so on and so forth. It's pretty much ONLY in CoD or MW you play as an american soldier fighting "real life" enemies, quote unquote. The Market, and the Genre, is much bigger then that.

PS: Pretty sure you can find games involving the assasination of bush, made in iran, on the internet. Or was that game about killing Israeli's? I can't remember, there was a small poop about it, but not as big as this poop.
 

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I got something from this article, what IF there is a game we get to play as a "villian of America?" What if we get to play as the Russian invaders in CoD? Or flashback to an attempt on a president's life, real or fictional.

What if we got to play as a Japanese soldier and an American soldier in the same game in the battle of Iwo Jima? There's a movie called "Letters from Iwo Jima" that takes place from the Japanese side of the battle, why can't we experience it closer?

Movies can do it, games should be able to do it, though this site looks hypocritical and preachy, it's garbage, I'm sorry. If a book or a movie can make a statement or paint a picture like this, a VG should too.
 

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Argh, why the hell does this kind of shit still make headlines!? I thought the death of Wacko-Jacko's legal career would be the start of an age where we did not have to watch as people pandered to base impulses and sensationalism with videogames as a target, and public media as the outlet.
(That is of course completely rhetorical, it catches people's attention and makes them read the article, therefore why would it NOT make headlines. I mean, writing an article about how completely off-base a group is in their accusations and that we should just calmly wait until they dig themselves into the earth's core rather than inciting rage by merely parroting their idiocy would obviously be too responsible to be newsworthy)

It seems that the way to fame these days is to partially lobotomize yourself to all common senses and reason, then climb up into a clock tower and shoot your mouth off.

"And our children shouldn?t either. This video game is so violent that it has been censored in Germany and Japan. The game went on sale on Nov. 9 in 4,400 nationwide. Wal-Mart, Best Buy, and dozens of other retailers in your community are today dealing this pornography to the children in your community. It is part of the whole culture of US militarism with the entertainment industry?s role being to desensitize us to violence. Our children are the most vulnerable."

For the love of god put down your crack pipe, look after your kids, know what the hell they're doing and support your local businesses in upholding ESRB regulations.

Helmutye said:
I think calling for a ban of this game is going too far--free speech and all that. Just because you disagree with something doesn't mean you should try to get the government to forcefully silence it. But I can definitely understand why a lot of people would be very upset and speak out against it. How fucked up would it be if somebody made a game where one of the things the player must do is assassinate YOU? The fact that the game is selling tons of copies only makes it creepier!

From Joystiq http://www.joystiq.com/2005/10/10/jack-thompson-makes-a-modest-proposal

"Jack Thompson is not Jonathan Swift ? not nearly as clever. So when he titles his idea for a video game A Modest Proposal, he is degrading the beauty that is Swift's infamous child-eating scenario. But that's exactly what Jack Thompson did ? he is offering $10,000 to charity for anyone who makes his proposed game.

Essentially, the game involves Osaki Kim, a father whose son was "beaten to death with a baseball bat by a 14-year-old gamer." The guilty party was "only" sentenced to life, even after finding a connection to video games and the murder, so O.K. (as Thompson abbreviates) goes on a killing spree to avenge his son ? he kills the publisher (Take This, a not-so-subtle reference to San Andreas publisher Take Two), followed by all parties involved in the trial, merchants of GameStop-like store and arcades ? and, of course, any cops that get in his way.

Of course, someone actually made it and Jack bailed out (and then Penny Arcade stepped in and donated the 10k themselves in Jack's stead). (Supposedly, if it is of interest you can look up the back story on it, I just mention it as a point of interest)