Trishbot said:
My questions (WITH SPOILERS):
1) How does Batman survive the fusion bomb at the end? He was shown to be in the cockpit of his plane mere seconds before detonation, and the blast radius was at least 6 miles. They said "autopilot", but I didn't see him eject in time. Also, he would then land in the icy water, in full body-armor, and either sink like a rock or freeze to death in minutes. Plus, if he swam to shore, someone would've spotted him.
2) How did Batman get INTO Gotham in the first place? He was stripped of all his gear and belongings and Gotham was entirely cut off from the rest of the world. How'd he get into the city?
3) The giant, flaming bat-signal on the bridge. Yeah, it's cool and all, but when did Bruce get the time to climb the bridge (monitored by both police and criminals) and prep it with gasoline all over... and then calmly wait at the bottom for Gordon's execution to spring the signal?
4) If the goal of the League of Shadows with Ra's Al Ghul was to eliminate the problems of Gotham by destroying the city, and 8 years later Gotham is practically crime-free, citizens are living peacefully, and Batman himself is retired, why on earth would they attack? Gotham HAD peace. They're the ones that caused all the problems.
5) If the true aim of the League, Talia, and Bane was to dupe Bruce into giving them the bomb, why did they jeopardize their plan by staging massive terrorist attacks that served no real purpose other than to get their men killed and put their plan at risk?
6) How did they know where Batman's armory was? The only ones that knew were both Bruce and Lucius Fox.
7) Batman's plane seriously was just camped out at the top of a building for nearly a year? He didn't even take it back to the cave. He just left it out in the open under a suspicious looking tarp and nobody found it?
8) It may not be a plothole, but does the movie seriously expect me to think that a 10 year old girl has the strength and will to crawl out of a hole in the ground, but none of these strong, full-grown men could do it? Or, for that matter, they couldn't just build a ladder or something out?
9) People know who Bruce Wayne is. He's a rich, famous billionaire playboy. If Bill Gates faked his death and was then spotted in public, you'd think someone would notice.
10) "You won't give up on me, will you Alfred?" "Never." -Batman Begins. Alfred totally gives up on him. Dammit, Alfred!
1) Movie magic, I guess. It's possible that he ejected while still in Gotham. There was plenty of cover for him to do so. Auto poilot would have done the rest.
2) He was trained by the League of Shadows and was already shown have been quite proficient before Gul found him. I don't think it's too hard to imagine how he good back into the city. He is Batman after all, suit or no suit.
3) Movie magic, yet again. But during the night, he may have had a chance to do it. Otherwise, it's not plot essential and I'm willing to just accept it as movie magic.
4) Talia was doing it to avenge her father. She was no longer part of the League anyway. Her goal was the complete her father's plan, even it was irrational. Obviously punishing Wayne was a big part of that.
5) Their attack on the stock exchange was the collapse Wayne Enterprises. The land developer character helped make that possible. Talia was undercover, so he was not aware that he'd already been double crossed when she stepped in to take over the company. He thought he was going to get the company. It was only going to happen if the shareholders and board demanded the change. The only real 'terror' attack was part of the master plan which would have climaxed with the bomb. The relative insanity of that master plan is fully in keeping with the superhero genre.
6) In Dark Knight a member of the staff at Wayne Enterprises worked out that 'RnD' was producing the same weapons and devices that Batman uses. He was never dealt with, but perhaps he is part of the reason Talia knew where the armoury was. The armoury was below the Wayne building however, am I right? Putting two and two together wouldn't have been impossible.
Also, this is effectively the League of Shadows, so I expect that they have the means to track Wayne or Fox's movements, or the movements of various parts shipments and so on. Honestly, there are many ways they could have found the armoury, and none of them are exciting to watch outside a detective movie.
Finally, the film was from Wayne's POV so in order to show the process of finding the armoury, it would have reveal the enemy and remove the surprise. Bane or Talia could have laughed maniacally and told Wayne how they located the armoury, but it was clear that they in fact DID find it, so why would Wayne ask?
8) Talia escape the pit because she didn't fear death. That's the core of it. She was prepared to commit to her escape completely because she was not affraid of losing her life. The other inmates were not so, which is why they used the rope. However, the rope was probably what truly held them back from making that jump. Consider the leap of faith required to climb that high (falling from even half way would be fatal) and then making the jump. Such a test is exactly something the League would appreciate. Regardless, the whole concept is a poetic one and not intended for such a mechanical analysis.
9) Well, many people claimed that Elvis Presley didn't really die, and how does society and media treat those people? That's what would happen to anybody claiming to have seen Wayne. The man died somehow, probably in the terrorist attack, and he his grave is there for all to see. There'd be all manner of tributes and monuments made for the months to come. Biographies, television specials. The whole world would be well and truly sold on his death. Imagine if you saw Steve Jobs tomorrow at a cafe. Who would believe you?
And if you are talking about the end restaurant epilogue, bear in mind they were in a foreign county and to be honest, Wayne was well known for sure, but not a media personality. He was a household name, perhaps, but not a household face. And arguably, France (that was were the end scene was, right?) has its own billionaires, who are still alive and not bankrupt.
10) Alfred didn't give up on Wayne. Wayne kicked him out. Alfred sacrificed his friendship with Wayne so as to try to save him from his pain. That's not giving up. That's beautiful. Wayne eventually realised that, thankfully.
