Large Hadron Collider Creates Incredibly Dense Primordial Matter

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DasDestroyer said:
That's a great idea too, as it allows for a huge habitable surface, but too much energy escapes past the rather thin band for it to be a very efficient weapon.
Gotta love Ringworld :D
[sub][sub]I just hope stasis fields are invented in my lifetime...[/sub][/sub]
actually I kinda meant building the ring out of the new material
 

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ryo02 said:
DasDestroyer said:
That's a great idea too, as it allows for a huge habitable surface, but too much energy escapes past the rather thin band for it to be a very efficient weapon.
Gotta love Ringworld :D
[sub][sub]I just hope stasis fields are invented in my lifetime...[/sub][/sub]
actually I kinda meant building the ring out of the new material
It's not really the kind of material you'd build things out of, at least directly, as it seems to act more like a liquid, a super-liquid to be more precise. But it is certainly a step in the right direction, since the material would have to be pretty damn dense to provide enough gravity without having to make the ring as thick as Venus.
 

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I'm no scientists...but if it's "100,000 times hotter than the sun" how are we containing it? Why hasn't it melted through the collider?

I am hoping to be educated on this by one of you lovely people.

::Edit::

Nevermind, someone said magnets. I don't get that either but it's late so alright.
 

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Triforceformer said:
I think the real question on everyone's mind is this:

Can you snort it? If so, then how sweet of a trip would you go on?

But really, if they can make some form of new energy with this, then we are officially living in the future. If not, then can we at least give it a funny name?
Quark-Gluon isn't a funny enough name for you? Say "gluon" out loud five times and try to keep from giggling. :)

Considering that it took the most powerful machine ever created by human hands to make even a few molecules of the stuff, I don't think we're looking at a feasible energy source here.


Also, I officially have a hard-on for the LHC team. How do I go about giving them all my internets? :)
 

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Tom Goldman said:
"100,000 times hotter than the sun and denser than any known object other than a black hole."

"a neutron star is said to be approximately as dense as the entire human population compressed into a sugar cube."

"If you had a cubic centimeter of this stuff, it would weigh 40 billion tons."
wait, WHAT!?

I can't even get my head around these figures. How can this even be possible??

Absolutely mind blowing.
 

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Jonabob87 said:
I'm no scientists...but if it's "100,000 times hotter than the sun" how are we containing it? Why hasn't it melted through the collider?

I am hoping to be educated on this by one of you lovely people.
Similarly to how a single atom of 3500 degree Celsius Tungsten won't burn your finger. Each atom of Tungsten at that temperature may have a very large amount of energy stored within, but there is only a single atom, and as a result there isn't enough energy to burn you.
I don't think it says how much of the stuff was made, but knowing what sort of masses the LHC deals with, my guess is barely any. Otherwise, as you correctly pointed out, it would have melted through the collider.
 

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Triforceformer said:
I think the real question on everyone's mind is this:

Can you snort it? If so, then how sweet of a trip would you go on?

But really, if they can make some form of new energy with this, then we are officially living in the future. If not, then can we at least give it a funny name?
You can't snort it....it snorts you.

Still probably a hell of a trip, if you survived.
 

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Jonabob87 said:
I'm no scientists...but if it's "100,000 times hotter than the sun" how are we containing it? Why hasn't it melted through the collider?

I am hoping to be educated on this by one of you lovely people.
High energy particles created in colliders will only usually last mere nanoseconds before they blink out of existence or simply evaporate. If it is really that hot and energetic, it's giving up a lot of radiation.
 

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C95J said:
Tom Goldman said:
"100,000 times hotter than the sun and denser than any known object other than a black hole."

"a neutron star is said to be approximately as dense as the entire human population compressed into a sugar cube."

"If you had a cubic centimeter of this stuff, it would weigh 40 billion tons."
wait, WHAT!?

I can't even get my head around these figures. How can this even be possible??

Absolutely mind blowing.
Consider this, if the Earth, which weighs 5.9742 × 10^24 kg, which is about 6 sextillion tonnes, was condensed into a black hole, it would be a sphere with a radius of 10 cm.
mind = blown
 

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It's a real shame this didn't come up sooner, it would have given those crazy doomsday people more material to spin a yarn.
 

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thaluikhain said:
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That would require about (40 000 000 000 000 * 299 792 458) N (calculator glitched, so I couldn't calculate it without spending ten minutes doing it the old fashioned way) of force.

Point being, I would probably worship you as some sort of messiah if you could do it.
Actually, no, that would be the force needed to accelerate it to C in one second, if it wasn't for relatavistic effects. (If you just take C as 3 x 10^8, you can just say 1.2 x 10^22 N)

Unfortunately, if you were doing that, the object would end up half a light second away once it reached that speed, travelling outwards, which would lead to your budget being cut, unless you had a very good spin doctor.
I was going to expand that, so thanks for doing it for me (ouch, sorry if that sounds angry). Technically, you could do it eventually with 1N of constantly applied force.

While we're at it, let's not forget that this is trusting that there are no external forces, such as gravity or the matter not being accelerated in a perfect vacuum (I'm talking about friction in case that last one sounded stupid), which as we know is nigh impossible.

The total energy required, however, remains the same. In retrospect, I should have noted that in the first place.

But this is really off-topic. My point is that it takes a huge amount of energy and matter to make a sugar cube-sized piece of this. Funny is also probably not the best word to describe the effects.

Tragic. Tragic works.
 

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DasDestroyer said:
C95J said:
Tom Goldman said:
"100,000 times hotter than the sun and denser than any known object other than a black hole."

"a neutron star is said to be approximately as dense as the entire human population compressed into a sugar cube."

"If you had a cubic centimeter of this stuff, it would weigh 40 billion tons."
wait, WHAT!?

I can't even get my head around these figures. How can this even be possible??

Absolutely mind blowing.
Consider this, if the Earth, which weighs 5.9742 × 10^24 kg, which is about 6 sextillion tonnes, was condensed into a black hole, it would be a sphere with a radius of 10 cm.
mind = blown

So basically a black hole is a giant trash compacter, haha that makes me feel much safer! :L

Also, I feel as if this is related in some way:

 

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SCIENCE!

Er...I for one would like to welcome the black hole that will be created by the LHC in the near future!
 

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Abandon4093 said:
Someone had better make a sugarcubed sized blob of this stuff and just drop it on the floor.

The results would be hilarious.
DailyDrop, anyone?

on topic: Nice, but what the hell has such a thing lost on earth. Don't want that anywhere near to me.
 

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With this stuff we could bring the world into a new age, Then when we fuck up this world, the next world, and the next world ,and the next world...
 

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theheroofaction said:
Alrighty, let me be the first to say this, so what?

I mean, does anybody gain anything from this hyperdense trash-compaction system?
A lot of people gain, actually. Quark-Gluon plasma is essentially the building blocks of atoms. Quarks and Gluons fuse together to form protons and neutrons. Knowing how they work is a huge step towards getting to the core of the laws of physics.

Up until now, scientists could only guess as to how this particular facet of physics works. Now that they've actually seen it first hand, they don't have to guess anymore.
 

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Why are they releasing this now? I can't find any information on it other than the obvious.

OT: interesting stuff, so new! And all that jazz.