Latest Overwatch Ban Wave Results in Some Hilarious Complaints

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Cheers, love! The crybabies are here!

I love how they're upset that Blizzard is punishing them for trying to screw over legit players. If you want to cheat, go somewhere they don't care like FEAR Online or the Russian Olympic team.
 

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I take it these loser didn't read the term and conditions when register on Overwatch? Ok not everyone has the time to read it all properly but by clicking "I agree" you lose whatever entitlement/ self right and fully submit yourself to the Game terms and conditions!
Okay, not that I'm singling you out particularly, but I don't really agree with this philosophy. Like, have you actually read the terms and conditions for every piece of software you have installed? For every website you visit? Maybe if you're some sort of OCD-type the answer's yes, but I'm pretty certain I'd have to take hundreds of hours just to read the terms and conditions of the programs I have installed, to say nothing of all the websites I visit. Did you know that almost every time a piece of software auto-updates (and yes, I'm pretty certain Battle.net is the same way) there's a new set of terms and conditions (or sometimes just the old one without any changes -- but you'd usually never know if it's changed or not without reading it through) that you have to agree with? And Battle.net updates every few weeks.

Come to think of it, I bet hundreds of hours is an under-estimate. Thousands is probably more accurate. Now that I really consider it, I'm not entirely sure that I could keep up with all the auto-updates even if I devoted my entire waking life to reading the terms and conditions. Something's gotta go, so I can't quite blame people for not just clicking "I agree".

I'm not defending the people ruining other people's fun, but I think a blanket no-exceptions ban is rather harsh. (Whether it's grounds for a class-action lawsuit I'm less sure about, but I suspect in some countries the answer might be "yes".) Set aside a special server for these people, and let them all run aimbots and whatnot to their hearts' content.
 

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The_Great_Galendo said:
Scarim Coral said:
I take it these loser didn't read the term and conditions when register on Overwatch? Ok not everyone has the time to read it all properly but by clicking "I agree" you lose whatever entitlement/ self right and fully submit yourself to the Game terms and conditions!
Okay, not that I'm singling you out particularly, but I don't really agree with this philosophy. Like, have you actually read the terms and conditions for every piece of software you have installed? For every website you visit? Maybe if you're some sort of OCD-type the answer's yes, but I'm pretty certain I'd have to take hundreds of hours just to read the terms and conditions of the programs I have installed, to say nothing of all the websites I visit. Did you know that almost every time a piece of software auto-updates (and yes, I'm pretty certain Battle.net is the same way) there's a new set of terms and conditions (or sometimes just the old one without any changes -- but you'd usually never know if it's changed or not without reading it through) that you have to agree with? And Battle.net updates every few weeks.

Come to think of it, I bet hundreds of hours is an under-estimate. Thousands is probably more accurate. Now that I really consider it, I'm not entirely sure that I could keep up with all the auto-updates even if I devoted my entire waking life to reading the terms and conditions. Something's gotta go, so I can't quite blame people for not just clicking "I agree".

I'm not defending the people ruining other people's fun, but I think a blanket no-exceptions ban is rather harsh. (Whether it's grounds for a class-action lawsuit I'm less sure about, but I suspect in some countries the answer might be "yes".) Set aside a special server for these people, and let them all run aimbots and whatnot to their hearts' content.
Ok I don't read all of them, just skim at best but I read carefully on important ones like a network provider. With video games, I ain't a dickhead who gonna hack, troll or used 3rd parties programs so there no chances or me being banned for being ordanary player (no banned from a game so far in my life).

Even then it does really paid to read those as they did this experiement on $1000 rewarding anyone for reading the whole terms and conditions http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2012/06/12/it-pays-to-read-license-agreements-7-years-later/
 

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Scarim Coral said:
Ok I don't read all of them, just skim at best but I read carefully on important ones like a network provider. With video games, I ain't a dickhead who gonna hack, troll or used 3rd parties programs so there no chances or me being banned for being ordanary player (no banned from a game so far in my life).

Even then it does really paid to read those as they did this experiement on $1000 rewarding anyone for reading the whole terms and conditions http://techtalk.pcpitstop.com/2012/06/12/it-pays-to-read-license-agreements-7-years-later/
I offered the poor fellows some help: http://imgur.com/a/iLkj4
 

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That said, I'm more in the Dark Souls camp when it comes to legislation. You feel like cheating? Fine. Here's a closed-off ecosystem for you and your brethren. Have fun playing if everyone on both teams is aimbotting. In the case of Overwatch, I'd just make it so any matches run with cheats aren't tallied up to your personal scores or level progression.
I broadly disagree with the Dark Souls approach.

Mostly, I disagree because the Dark Souls approach allows hackers free access to your game, so it gives them extra time and data break it. Dark souls demonstrated that rather sadly when the hackers worked out how to subvert the anti cheat to the point it targeted entirely innocent players at their behest. Similar things happen in Battlefield, where unranked servers can do anything, so hackers sit there and scrutinise Punkbuster/Fairfight in depth.

Also, I expect Blizzard won't want it because allowing hackers to ignore the progression system might reduce the number of precious micro transactions. As much as I intensely dislike Skinner Box based economies in game I can understand Blizzard's desire to avoid that.
 

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fix-the-spade said:
IamLEAM1983 said:
That said, I'm more in the Dark Souls camp when it comes to legislation. You feel like cheating? Fine. Here's a closed-off ecosystem for you and your brethren. Have fun playing if everyone on both teams is aimbotting. In the case of Overwatch, I'd just make it so any matches run with cheats aren't tallied up to your personal scores or level progression.
I broadly disagree with the Dark Souls approach.

Mostly, I disagree because the Dark Souls approach allows hackers free access to your game, so it gives them extra time and data break it. Dark souls demonstrated that rather sadly when the hackers worked out how to subvert the anti cheat to the point it targeted entirely innocent players at their behest. Similar things happen in Battlefield, where unranked servers can do anything, so hackers sit there and scrutinise Punkbuster/Fairfight in depth.

Also, I expect Blizzard won't want it because allowing hackers to ignore the progression system might reduce the number of precious micro transactions. As much as I intensely dislike Skinner Box based economies in game I can understand Blizzard's desire to avoid that.
I can understand your reservations, but the last one does puzzle me. If the progression system is frozen, the only thing that's taken out is the one loot box you get per level. Ergo, cheaters would still be free to burn hundreds of dollars in loot boxes - earning Blizzard that precious capital.
 

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What the hell is a 'semi-pro' gamer? Is that like being an amateur porn star or something?

I love hearing cheaters cry and whine when they get banned. They don't even regret that they were cheating; a lot of the responses were all talk of fucking suing Blizzard... BLIZZARD. The company that fucking prints money, and a bunch of basement-dwelling cheaters want to take on the legal team of a company that handles the most popular online games out there?

Actually, I hope that happens! I'd love to see these entitled whiners lose and have to pay the legal fees. Maybe that's harsh, but I can't stand people that cheat in video games, especially people that use Aimbots, which it seems like that's what the majority of these people got banned for.
 

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While i'm useally not too positive about Blizzard, I do like their zero tollerance approach on people who use external cheating programs.
 

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I disagree with permabanning cheaters like this. It's being far too kind to them, they just go to other games and cheat there.

It's much better to SHADOW-BAN cheaters so they only get matched up with other shadow-banned cheaters and nobody else. If they try to queue with friends, separate them and throw them in a cheater server anyway. That way they're trapped in their own special hell of doubt, frustrations, etc. A hell they will always find themselves in whenever they launch the game.

I mean if you caught a criminal you wouldn't just shoot them in the head. You would keep them trapped in a prison with other criminals for years, except it's a virtual prison and they won't even know they've been put there. Give them vain hope they might get matched with legit players some day. Don't just crush their account, crush their hope and spirit.

That's what online cheaters deserve. Just killing them off with a permaban is being too kind to them.
 

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IamLEAM1983 said:
fix-the-spade said:
Kreett said:
Half of those people act like it was their god given right to cheat in Overwatch and that Blizzard has no right to ban them, I don't know anymore, seems "fuk u i do wat i want" is becoming a very common conception to have
Hackers who go into public games are by definition complete arse holes with absolutely no sense of self awareness.

This exactly the kind of reaction to getting banned I would expect, it's exactly the reaction I used to get whenever I applied massed bans to the Source game and Battlefield servers I used to run. People like that cannot see how their behaviour can be in any way unacceptable, which is why it's so glorious to watch them suffer.
"I ruined dozens of games over a few months, but come on fam; s'all good, right?"

I dabbled in Minecraft server admin a few years back, and got similar responses. There's idiots for whom cheating just shouldn't incur penalties.

That said, I'm more in the Dark Souls camp when it comes to legislation. You feel like cheating? Fine. Here's a closed-off ecosystem for you and your brethren. Have fun playing if everyone on both teams is aimbotting. In the case of Overwatch, I'd just make it so any matches run with cheats aren't tallied up to your personal scores or level progression.
I Remember when warframe used to award event trophies to only the top three clans in each clan categories, one specific clan would cheat, abuse and exploit to reach an unassailable score... and have all their sploited scores removed, and they would always ***** and whine and act like they were wronged (and moan their 'work' had been robbed from them)... and then win the top spot anyway with legit scores, which indicated they didn't need to exploit in the first place. Every damn time.
 

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Windknight said:
I Remember when warframe used to award event trophies to only the top three clans in each clan categories, one specific clan would cheat, abuse and exploit to reach an unassailable score... and have all their sploited scores removed, and they would always ***** and whine and act like they were wronged (and moan their 'work' had been robbed from them)... and then win the top spot anyway with legit scores, which indicated they didn't need to exploit in the first place. Every damn time.
It's part of the fun for some people. You're good enough to net wins legit? After a while, that inexplicably stops being fun for some. You need another shot of that sense of invulnerability, so the next step is to cheat. Which, of course, is just plain sad.

I mean, I'm a PS4 Overwatch player and I'd consider myself average. I have fun no matter if I win or lose, and consequently tend to avoid the competitive scene. I've heard idiots rage on Team Chat, even if it's just another damn game. A guy I played with more or less said "Damn, I really should've logged on PC and used my aimbot for this one!"
 

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New Skin Idea:

Ban Hammer Reinhardt! :3

He could even have a skin-exclusive line that he says sometimes after getting a kill:

"Your tears SUSTAIN me!"

=D
 

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RJ 17 said:
New Skin Idea:

Ban Hammer Reinhardt! :3

He could even have a skin-exclusive line that he says sometimes after getting a kill:

"Your tears SUSTAIN me!"

=D
Hire this man/woman/betentacled horror from beyond my stars!

In all seriousness,these cheaters are all so terminally daft,I'm amazed they still draw breath.
 

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While I applaud Blizzard's continued dead-hard stance when it comes to people trying to break the competitive spirit of their game, a game I have a vested interest in seeing maintained.. there's on the thing with these replies posted that just bothers me.

I'm willing to believe that a ton of these people are just going through their whole library of memetic kappaspeak to troll around and make a mockery out of their whiny discourse, but.. the sheer weight of what the fuck on display there kind of numbs me a bit.

That there actually are people this entitled, dense, or wantonly introverted in their own dream world kinda bothers me.
 
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You know what, the ninth picture actually brings up a good point.

The "wow woW WOW BLIZZARD REALLY AGAIN BANWAVE WTF IS UR PROBLEM BLIZZARD JUST LEAVE US ALONE WE ARENT EVEN DESTROYING THE SERVER **** NOW MY BROTHER IS GONNAKILL ME" picture.

I'm usually on the same boat. Cheaters suffer, lawl, good fun for all. Like, how they laugh at us regular players for not cheating alone with them, telling us to go cry more, and saying they spent their money so they should be able to play the game like they want. Like, somehow video games are the only place where rules don't matter.

You paid for your ticket at the movies, and you'll be kicked out if the theater has a no talking policy.

You leased your car, and you'll have to pay so many damages if you decided to try to customize it yourself.

They did the crime, laughed at us, now all they are doing is crying. Good symmetry. Fun for all.

However, I have been thinking as a person who buys and owns his own games. How DOES this affect people who have relatives who uses their PCs? There has to be some consideration if one person bought it and owned it, and another person in the household actually did the cheating.
 

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However, I have been thinking as a person who buys and owns his own games. How DOES this affect people who have relatives who uses their PCs? There has to be some consideration if one person bought it and owned it, and another person in the household actually did the cheating.
Bet you almost anything that Blizzard has a strict "one sentient lifeform per account" policy and using it to let someone else play a game they didn't pay for is A HEINOUS CRIME TANTAMOUNT TO PIRACY in their eyes.
 

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Yes, and given the state of the battlenet right now it's also resulted in some not-so-hilarious DDoS attacks. I've been kicked twice, when I did get in games I had unplayable lag, and now I can't even get connected to the client.
 

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Kungfu_Teddybear said:
Yes, and given the state of the battlenet right now it's also resulted in some not-so-hilarious DDoS attacks. I've been kicked twice, when I did get in games I had unplayable lag, and now I can't even get connected to the client.
The salt has truly intensified. For those interested, I have uncovered a visual simulation of what has been going on these last couple days...

What a bunch of losers, lol.