Lawyer: California Law Could Destroy Videogame Industry

Dexiro

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...Still don't see what the fuss is about. Everything's working fine over here in England where it already works that way.
 

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whiteM1lk said:
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Darn.

That's all I can say. The U.S keeps letting me down. At least Canada's still there...okay, bad joke.
'counter' We learn from your mistakes.
Sorry, got to my head
I don't get it...
 

MarcFirewing

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America is too convinced that the video game industry is the cause for their children's corruption. They use it as a scapegoat to avoid the fact that their parenting is horrible and they don't even focus on their children properly. It's ridiculous because everyone in America suffers because of a few idiots that decided to hijack a car and ram it into a bank so they could rob it.

Now if there were parents that actually had their shit together and would NOT buy their kids rated M/A Only games who are prone to this violent behavior then things would be fine. Heck, no kid would want to go get some random stranger to do it as often, or so I believe, but who knows? Let video gaming live!
 

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Congratulations, Patrick Sweeney. You successfully plagiarized Extra Credits...and got the Escapist News Room to pick up the story without a trace of irony.
 

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Thumper17 said:
Uhm, as far as I know. The law they are talking about just means violent videogames wont be able to legally be sold to minors. They do that in Canada already. Nothing has changed.

People need to calm down.
They already can't be sold to minors, but this law is about classing them in the same restricted category as drugs and porn. That's a hell of a step above ESRB and the like, and not something that Bejewelled or Minecraft deserves.
 

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i would support this, but because of how the USA works i can't. the reason this works in say, the uk, Australia and nz is cause games a Roughly* treated the same as movies in regulation. see, in the uk, Australia and nz movies are regulated BY THE GOVERNMENT already. so they are treated by the law as any other media. the problem with this law is that this would class games with liquor,cigarettes and porn. therefore shunning it in the publics eyes, opening the door to all sorts of silly rules, taxes and regulations and making it that much harder to make gaming a "art-form" like extra credit says.

(*note: ROUGHLY, we still have a way to go.)
 

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Sovvolf said:
Thumper17 said:
Uhm, as far as I know. The law they are talking about just means violent videogames wont be able to legally be sold to minors. They do that in Canada already. Nothing has changed.

People need to calm down.
If that's true then well, that's also how it goes in Briton and as been like this for as long as I can remember so... I don't see the big deal.
I think what it means is this

Currently in Britain and America, games are rated by things like PEGI and stuff. They review the game and give it a certificate (PG, 12, 15, 18, T for Teen ... you get the idea). That means that when the parent goes to buy the game, they'll see the 18 tag and HOPEFULLY get it into their dumb heads that their kid isn't 18 and this isn't sutible for them.

The problem seems to be that people are idiots, and are buying little Timmy Fallout : New Vegas and are shocked and horrified when a clearly-labelled-18 game with a certificate on the back CLEARLY listing violence, gore and somesuch stuff contains (dun dun duuuh) exactly that. They say "Garh, dis be roo'nin my child's innocence!" despite the fact that the fault is entirely theirs

Thus, California wants to have a law in place where games are put before the GOVERNMENT (not Pegi) and the government judge whether games should be sold AT ALL. So if the government deemed Vegas unfit for the public, that entire game cannot be sold, meaning Obsidian and whatever the publisher of Vegas is loses money. This means the industry will have to make games that appease the government by being friendly toys

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I think that's the problem. It's the only way I can make sense of it, because if it IS just a rating system, then the Americans are being really backward

however, a lot of people are opposing it in a big way, so I can only assume it's more serious than what you (the quoted people) think it is.
 

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If this goes trough in America, then their economy will get huge hole and all game companies will mvoe to Europe, and with that many Computer hardware designers will move their HQ's to Europe so they can support the game companies (And vice versa) without losing their status amongst gaming community (the biggest users of High end computer gear)...

Americans please make your government realise that the bigegst enemy of USA are not the foreign people, it is you! When terrorist attack America, you will just rebuild and prosper. If you destroy your economy yourself, you can't prosper and you become a sitting duck...
 

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Nouw said:
As long as other states, countries and continents still strive and keep free of this law; this won't 'destroy' the Video Game industry. Good thing I live in NZ, or I'm moving back to South Korea!
It'll open the doorway for all those anti-video game laws other states of the US tried for to be bought right back in. From there, it seems likely that the US market will suffer... badly. To the point of collapse, if all the laws are all bought back in.

If the US market goes, the biggest western (possibly global?) market for video games is gone... yeah, I don't see how that can affect -anything-.
 

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Meh. I hope it does die in the US; maybe then the fuckwits will realise at last how much money they are pissing across the Atlantic to Europe and Asia and drop this insane law.
Money will wake up the people with power... When they realise that they are loosing it big time, they will wake up. As I said earlier (And in many other occasions) If this law goes in, most of big game companies will job to Europe, with high change to either Germany or Scandinavia (highest change, Sweden and Finland). Because our laws (Eu and local in scandinavia) prevent anything like this from happening.
 

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Dexter111 said:
Isn't this the exact same news posted two days ago? With the exact same refferal link?
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.241456-Expert-Warns-of-Possible-Catastrophic-Effects-of-California-Videogame-Law?page=1

Only just a bit more doom and gloomy in the phrasing?

I can only say what I already said there:

Not only is there also Digital Distribution that wouldn't be "affected" by major retailers not stocking games, but you could still perfectly well order the games Online and (at least some) retailers could and probably would make a point out of it that they DO sell said games and come out as the winners (I especially see this for specialized game stores) as people will then buy from there...

Not only that, but I actually see a positive side to this e.g. developers/publishers might actually be forced to commit to a certain age/demographic instead of trying to mix em and there might be less "violence" in some games, but the ones that are marketed towards that demographic could even tone up the violence and (hopefully) even sex levels (like The Witcher or similar) a bit and point towards the law saying those games are clearly not intended for children and are not being sold to them... if the parents buy them the games tough luck instead of always trying to mix the two and advertise with the "maturity" of some game but tone down on everything "mature" because they also have children in their demographic and don't want a public media outcry. (e.g. see removed "Hot Coffee Mod" and similar)
You make an interesting point regarding digital distribution.
If this passes, surely digital means will skyrocket? Won't that mean that the whole problem with retailer middle-men and used game sales that the developers won't shut up about all go away?

Could this actually be a good thing?
 

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This is pretty disturbing. Why isn't film classed alongside pornography, alcohol or tobacco? Who the hell thinks of this stuff?
 

RabbiiFrystofsk

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Why?
Because video games promote creativity and expression of thought, which in turn promotes rebellious attitudes which scares the US. If it's something they can't control and can't make money out of it it's the spawn of Satan, if it's something they can't control but can make money out of it it's a foreign dictator, however if it's something they can control and can make money from then it's God's balls on a silver platter.
Fuck corporate America.