Lawyer: California Law Could Destroy Videogame Industry

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coldasicedrummer said:
Because they've failed at literally everything else they've attempted in the political spectrum, so they're making a desperate attempt to win brownie points with twatmackerels.

Way to live up to your "progressive" billing, California.
really?

I thought it was because they got RRoD'd
 

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You guys are totally blowing this out of proportion. Fact is most games are sold as T for Teen. Of course a bunch of nerds are gonna proclaim doom and gloom if anyone does anything to gaming. Sad part is this is probably more important to escapist users then any political activity. Who cares about the game industry when you soon wont have the money to invest in the hobby? You'll be paying too much for health insurance and bank bailouts to cover any recreational habits. You kids should spend more time on alternet (or if your conservative, whatever news site is appropriate but please dont say Fox News) then here.
 
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Thumper17 said:
Uhm, as far as I know. The law they are talking about just means violent videogames wont be able to legally be sold to minors. They do that in Canada already. Nothing has changed.

People need to calm down.
Wrong. Didn't you read the article? If this law passes, video games lose first amendment protection which means they will get treated the same way as liquor and pornography. It is an open invitation for politicians to "go nuts" with their anti-video game laws and nobody is going to stop them.

This is fucking serious.

AngryMongoose said:
And ofcourse the industry will fuck off to Canada and Europe.
I really wish that were the case. But the US is more or less 60% of the entire gaming market. Companies will get significantly less profits so it's most likely they won't even bother making games any more.
 

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Guys. What is this law doing? The same thing that is already a policy in most retail stores. As in, something we've already had going on for a long time.

I can honestly say I don't understand why people are getting so fired up about it. Nothing will change.
 

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GOD DAMN YOU Schwarzenegger!!!

I can't believe the man I once saw defeat a Predator in one on one unarmed jungle combat,teach kindergarten,give birth,and beat Sinbad in a holiday race to get his son the toy he wanted would just spit on my face like this.I use to love you man now you make me sick,what would Danny Devito think about you now?
 

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Well, its more likely to hurt Console gaming.
This doesnt affect Digital Distribution Platforms, and therefore can only swing kicks in the direction of PC gaming.

I use a console and a PC personally*, but it doesnt change the fact that Digital Platforms are practically untouchable by these kinds of laws as it is, and therefore cannot be affected.
Console games however currently need to be purchased on disc 90% of the time, and therefore will be affected. And the wild kicks at PC gaming will be aimed at disc copies, which do not make up the majority of PC gamers.

Having said all that, when it comes down to it, people will continue to get these games, only in different ways. In Australia, its illegal to own R18+ games, but people still get them by means of the Internet. This just means that gaming STORES will take a hit in the affected areas, but the industry just needs to adapt to the new issues encircling it, and bunker down for what could end up being a Legal spitting contest.

In other words, nothings any different to how it was before. Its just the media, and communities screaming at the law with a fierce defiance.

*Offtopic: Funny nowadays how if you dont point this out youll just get passed off as a biased fanboy.
 

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EcoEclipse said:
Guys. What is this law doing? The same thing that is already a policy in most retail stores. As in, something we've already had going on for a long time.

I can honestly say I don't understand why people are getting so fired up about it. Nothing will change.
Store policy and government regulation are not the same thing.I think your having trouble understanding why people are so fired up because you don't understand what this hearing means.

Not sure if your aware but there is a very informative episode of Extra Credits that will help you understand what's at stake and what this law will mean check it out the title of the episode is Free Speech
 

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Thumper17 said:
Uhm, as far as I know. The law they are talking about just means violent videogames wont be able to legally be sold to minors. They do that in Canada already. Nothing has changed.

People need to calm down.
I don't think you get the fact that if you start to restrict rights and free choices, slowly but surely, they will be restricted all together. Laws aren't as simple as everyone makes it out to be. Politicians only explain it to you like its simple so you can be on board with their side. California is trying to push for laws so that each state can govern itself as to which video games are allowed to be sold in their state and what alterations must be made to be acceptable in the state of (?????).

There's a simple solution to this shenanagans.... why not have every gamestop, wal*mart, target, etc. have a "we ID if you look younger than 40" policy? they do that for cigarettes and alcohol, so why can't this policy be applied for R-rated movies, PA CDs, and M Rated Games? Instead, the "Governator" wants to take an irrational course of action and do soemthing that would totally put his shitty name down in history.

off-topic: Just like how floridia is referred to as the wang of america, Califoria is the ass of america (Also referred to as "The butthurt state"), pass it on :D
 

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Oh Yeah! Talk about a hypocrite! The Terminator is worried about violence! Hey California has screwed the trucking industry as well as so many other industries we all know and love so why not the video game industry. Government regulations! The wave of the future! Unless you all began to learn what the word "Libertarian" means and start showing it by voting it things are going to get a lot worse very fast! When the government regulates every aspect of your life, isn't that called communism?
 

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Yostbeef said:
EcoEclipse said:
Guys. What is this law doing? The same thing that is already a policy in most retail stores. As in, something we've already had going on for a long time.

I can honestly say I don't understand why people are getting so fired up about it. Nothing will change.
Store policy and government regulation are not the same thing.I think your having trouble understanding why people are so fired up because you don't understand what this hearing means.

Not sure if your aware but there is a very informative episode of Extra Credits that will help you understand what's at stake and what this law will mean check it out the title of the episode is Free Speech
I've seen every episode of Extra Credits. I know.

I don't see why it's such a big deal. If stores are doing it already, why does it matter if the government backs it up?
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
Nouw said:
As long as other states, countries and continents still strive and keep free of this law; this won't 'destroy' the Video Game industry. Good thing I live in NZ, or I'm moving back to South Korea!
America is console central. If America falls consoles will DIE completely and this time, unlike the 1980s crash, it won't come back. PCs can survive, but consoles will be dead. It will be an effective reset of the entire industry back to square one when pong.
Well then, I think if this law passes I'll be able to survive the fallout of the bombshell that is the stupid, stupid law.

PC gaming is dead? PC gaming survives even the worst.

Anyway, this law is just because of the immature parents that cannot actually be parents. The same people that just sit around arguing and watching the television, while paying for whatever their child wants/"needs".
 

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Lancer873 said:
Xzi said:
Thumper17 said:
Uhm, as far as I know. The law they are talking about just means violent videogames wont be able to legally be sold to minors. They do that in Canada already. Nothing has changed.

People need to calm down.
And what was the last good game to come from a Canadian developer? Thought so...
Modern Warefare 2, which had "epic controversy" despite telling people SEVERAL TIMES that there was a scene that could be considered traumatizing. There are plenty of others, but I thought I'd just point that one out in particular.
And crud, sorry about the double post X.X
Let me clarify the Californian law. If the law passes, it will allow any state to regulate what content they want in video games. i.e. Each state is given the chance to have their own law of what is appropriate for a video game. 50 states, 50 different video game laws. Yeah, the California law isn't a big deal...

Unlike the movie ratings, comic ratings and alcohol age limit of which is regulated by the entire country of the USA. The California law allows the HUGE loop hole of allowing every state of the USA to have their own individual video game laws.

EDIT: If you believe each of the 50 states of USA have the same views of what is appropriate as a video game, you'd be wrong. You can have 50 different laws that govern the type of video game children can play.
 

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Negatempest said:
Lancer873 said:
Xzi said:
Thumper17 said:
Uhm, as far as I know. The law they are talking about just means violent videogames wont be able to legally be sold to minors. They do that in Canada already. Nothing has changed.

People need to calm down.
And what was the last good game to come from a Canadian developer? Thought so...
Modern Warefare 2, which had "epic controversy" despite telling people SEVERAL TIMES that there was a scene that could be considered traumatizing. There are plenty of others, but I thought I'd just point that one out in particular.
And crud, sorry about the double post X.X
Let me clarify the Californian law. If the law passes, it will allow any state to regulate what content they want in video games. i.e. Each state is given the chance to have their own law of what is appropriate for a video game. 50 states, 50 different video game laws. Yeah, the California law isn't a big deal...

Unlike the movie ratings, comic ratings and alcohol age limit of which is regulated by the entire country of the USA. The California law allows the HUGE loop hole of allowing every state of the USA to have their individual video game laws.
This is the real problem, the law wouldn't change anything on its' own, but the loss of first amendment protection can be very harmful. I think a good compromise would be to change the first amendment to allow for age restrictions of all media. This would solve the Governator's problem without doing much damage and will also restrict age-inappropriate movies and songs.
 

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Lillowh said:
Dont suppose you could post a link to the proposed changes by any chance?

And don't apolgise for a wall of text, thats like saying 'I'm sorry for explaining myself' People only give about walls of text because then they actually have to read D: