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Mycroft Holmes

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chinangel said:
Good for you? You have failed to convince me as to why I should get a computer when I already own a console and all my games are on it.
I was trying to convince you to buy a computer?

chinangel said:
Again, I do NOT care how much more powerful it is, and all I use my computer for is writing and Skype. That's pretty much it.
What are you neo-amish? Lets just stop inventing stuff bcuz thinks r gud now rite? Who needs better computers anyways.

chinangel said:
You tell me it's more economic, but the thing is...it's not. Not for me at this point.
Yes because you already bought an inferior system and thus don't have money for the better system. If you're starving on the streets with 5$ to your name and you buy a hamburger that tastes like it has been doused in sewage it's not going to be economical to go ahead and rebuy something cheaper and better. But that doesn't make having bought the sewage burger an economical idea.

chinangel said:
outside of the fact that I'm supposed to feel bad for playing on an 'inferior' platform.
You are?

chinangel said:
even when I get my gaming computer, why should i go back and purchase all the games I already own?
Again, just because you're on a set path does not make it better. It only makes you more emotionally and economically invested in convincing yourself that it is. Even if you're wrong.

chinangel said:
So they can look somewhat prettier?
I know we already covered how unimaginative you are, but come on at least put some effort into it. I can get free content that has been fan restored for games. I can download and install unofficial patches to fix even the most minor of bugs. I can download mods that add almost anything that I want to games like skyrim. I can render far more objects moving at the same time, allowing large grandscale multiplayer battles. I can run more complex AI for multiple enemies. I can perform more complex physics operations. I can do a hundred other things that influence gameplay in very noticeable ways.

chinangel said:
'More support' is a poor reason because I never really buy dlc or have any problems with the game.
Who mentioned DLC?... and holy shit stop the presses, you've absolutely never run into a single bug in any game ever?

chinangel said:
'Cheaper' is out because I already own a physical copy of the games I'm interested in and a second copy, physical or digital will do me no good
And your consoles will last forever and never break, and after your body passes away aliens will discover them amongst the aqueducts, pyramids, parachute pants, and everything else that is not effected by time. And developers will constantly develop for your console so that you never have to buy another gaming system again, because we live in a magical time-loop just for your benefit.

Of course rather than investing in a PC when the next gen consoles come around and your games wont run on them anymore, you'll just buy a new console. Because getting shafted by corporations is too much fun to pass up.

chinangel said:
and I've never really cared all that much which copy of the game looks better as it will do little to enhance my enjoyment of the game.
Yeah, because that's totally the only thing that increased computational power is capable of.
 

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I personally do not agree with bashing one system over the other and thus do not partake....

But I must admit that as a PC gamer in the early days of this last generation (and really my whole gaming life) It got REALLY REALLY annoying hearing people say "PC gaming is dead" 4 years later those same people are singing a different tune.... So yeah... in some ways I find it vindicating simply because I put up with all the bashing coming the other way just a short while ago.

Do I agree with system bashing? No it is annoying... but lets be honest when something you supported for years finally becomes top dog you tend to feel some level of satisfaction.
 

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I don't know about about PC gaming VS Consoles but unless you are a poor console gaming peasant you have both.

I really can't think of a PC gamer who doesn't own at least one other console. So yeah. They are a bunch of hypocrites when they brow beat you about using primarily consoles to game.

It really is none of their business where you do your gaming.

Bhaalspawn said:
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NO!!! NEVER!!!



LOOK AT THESE GRAPHICS! LOOK AT THEM!!!
You know what the sad part is?

One Minute: GAMES FOCUS TOO MUCH ON GRAPHICS!
Next Minute: THIS GAME NEEDS 4024x4024 TEXTURE MODS ON EVERYTHING! EVEN THE PILLOWS!

One Minute: I HATE DRM!
Next Minute: THIS GAME ISN'T ON STEAM! WTF?!?!?!

One Minute: GAMES NEED TO BE LONGER THAN 6 HOURS!
Next Minute: LET'S BOYCOTT THE ONLY MAJOR COMPANY THAT MAKES REALLY LONG GAMES ANYMORE BECAUSE OF ENDINGS AND SHIT!

Why are PC gamers so fucking inconsistent...
Because it is a community full of different people.

Bayonetta 2 is a Wii U exclusive? WTF!?
The PS3 has exclusive games AWESOME!

Why are console gamers so fucking inconsistent...

It's probably because it is a huge group of people where about 95% just plays games and enjoys themselves and a small 5% portion goes on the internet to outrage at everything.

Also are you seriously saying Bioware should be cut some slack?

Not after Dragon Age 2, the laziest game ever made.
 

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I say the more the merrier. The only console from the current generation that I don't have is the Wii, and the reason for that is lack of arm waving space. These days I spend more time on my PC because of Guild Wars 2 and Skyrim, but this time last year I mostly played on my consoles.
 

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Mycroft Holmes said:
chinangel said:
Good for you? You have failed to convince me as to why I should get a computer when I already own a console and all my games are on it.
I was trying to convince you to buy a computer?

chinangel said:
Again, I do NOT care how much more powerful it is, and all I use my computer for is writing and Skype. That's pretty much it.
What are you neo-amish? Lets just stop inventing stuff bcuz thinks r gud now rite? Who needs better computers anyways.

chinangel said:
You tell me it's more economic, but the thing is...it's not. Not for me at this point.
Yes because you already bought an inferior system and thus don't have money for the better system. If you're starving on the streets with 5$ to your name and you buy a hamburger that tastes like it has been doused in sewage it's not going to be economical to go ahead and rebuy something cheaper and better. But that doesn't make having bought the sewage burger an economical idea.

chinangel said:
outside of the fact that I'm supposed to feel bad for playing on an 'inferior' platform.
You are?

chinangel said:
even when I get my gaming computer, why should i go back and purchase all the games I already own?
Again, just because you're on a set path does not make it better. It only makes you more emotionally and economically invested in convincing yourself that it is. Even if you're wrong.

chinangel said:
So they can look somewhat prettier?
I know we already covered how unimaginative you are, but come on at least put some effort into it. I can get free content that has been fan restored for games. I can download and install unofficial patches to fix even the most minor of bugs. I can download mods that add almost anything that I want to games like skyrim. I can render far more objects moving at the same time, allowing large grandscale multiplayer battles. I can run more complex AI for multiple enemies. I can perform more complex physics operations. I can do a hundred other things that influence gameplay in very noticeable ways.

chinangel said:
'More support' is a poor reason because I never really buy dlc or have any problems with the game.
Who mentioned DLC?... and holy shit stop the presses, you've absolutely never run into a single bug in any game ever?

chinangel said:
'Cheaper' is out because I already own a physical copy of the games I'm interested in and a second copy, physical or digital will do me no good
And your consoles will last forever and never break, and after your body passes away aliens will discover them amongst the aqueducts, pyramids, parachute pants, and everything else that is not effected by time. And developers will constantly develop for your console so that you never have to buy another gaming system again, because we live in a magical time-loop just for your benefit.

Of course rather than investing in a PC when the next gen consoles come around and your games wont run on them anymore, you'll just buy a new console. Because getting shafted by corporations is too much fun to pass up.

chinangel said:
and I've never really cared all that much which copy of the game looks better as it will do little to enhance my enjoyment of the game.
Yeah, because that's totally the only thing that increased computational power is capable of.
Wow...now you're just being an ass. Neo-Amish? Maybe I don't need my computer for anything else? I talk to my family through skype and I write stories? That's all I really need it for? You want to hurl insults around and dismiss my points, that's your decision.

I'm glad you enjoy your PC and I'm glad your proud of it. I'm proud of my console and yes I'll probably get the next generation of consoles. Why? Because I'm a console gamer who doesn't have time to figure out why her computer isn't running atm. I've watched one of my friends (who is far more tech savvy than I am, though you likely have a snarky remark for that too) struggle with the computer her built. Bad parts sent by companies, parts failing, and problem after problem.

Combine his misfortune with your attitude and I'm pretty much off buying gaming computers. I have what I want and I'm happy with it.
 

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Though I'm a PC gamer at heart, I still like consoles for certain games and genres. I will joke at times about the "superiority" of PC gaming, but I think that there are benefits to both PCs and consoles. It all depends on both your group of friends, and the way you like to interact with your games.
 

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Sorry PC elitists, but every argument you have is drowned out by the sounds of Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Kirby, StarFox, Donkey Kong, F-Zero, Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Kid Icarus, LittleBigPlanet, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest, InFamous, Banjo-Kazooie, Mega-Man, ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, Metal Gear and the countless other games that have brought me so much joy. Even if they are on 'underpowered' machines.
 

Arina Love

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just don't go in to /r/gaming and you will be alright, that place is full of douchebags and elitists.
 

ebalosus

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Starik20X6 said:
Sorry PC elitists, but every argument you have is drowned out by the sounds of Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, Kirby, StarFox, Donkey Kong, F-Zero, Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Kid Icarus, LittleBigPlanet, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest, InFamous, Banjo-Kazooie, Mega-Man, ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, Metal Gear and the countless other games that have brought me so much joy. Even if they are on 'underpowered' machines.
One thing I am tired of though, is Nintendo elitism when compared to the other consoles. Maybe "elitism" is too stronger word, but I never grew up with a nintendo like most americans, thus don't really understand the degree of worship it's given by its fans. Yes, they make fun games, and yes, their latest consoles are quite innovative... but there is nothing there for me personally. There are only two games that I ever remember enjoying on a nintendo system: Mario 64, and Perfect Dark. Other than that, not much else appeals to me.
 

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Yeah I get that a lot too. It's annoying because I know PC games are better, my friend has an awesome PC and I play it every chance I get.
I can't afford a decent PC, I'm glad it lets me watch youtube videos without catching fire.
So I bought an Xbox and I love it.

Yes PC is the superior platform that's great, but I don't see why some people have to be such snobs about it.
It's like I'm cycling to work and some guy in a flashy car pulls up to call me a moron for buying a bike.
 

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Calibanbutcher said:
Oh, how I longed for a gaming PC yesterday when I was having an all-out Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Tournament with a bunch of friends, sitting on the couch, playing in teams of four.
We genuinely believed that we had fun, until we realized that we were playing on a console, which made us throw down our controllers in disgust. How could we have thought that offline-4-player could actually be "fun" or "engaging"...
This is what I think every time the console experience is talked down upon, as if there is no point to its existence.

After updating my PC and scooping up some games on Steam's Summer Sale, I realized the IRL social aspect was missing from the equation.

I wasn't having fun with the experiences with strangers online, and though I could play with friends it was always better to have them within yelling and punching distance from me if they were trolling. The social aspect is what consoles really have going for them. Split-screen Minecraft, a plethora of fighting games, Halo deathmatch, dancing games for the kids (and me!)...

What began to bug me was the technical issues surrounding me playing on PC. Chat would bug out where I'd need to restart the game, Xpadder wouldn't properly configure my 360 gamepad to work with most games, scouring the internet to find a fix for some really inconvenient problem. The utter simplicity and plug-and-play nature of the console environment saves time for other things I have to do in life, professionally and socially.

PC is a fantastic gaming platform. The graphics are stellar and the game performance is top-notch, it's just not for me in most cases.

Really, it's just different strokes for different folks.
 

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I subscribe to TotalHalibut's words for this issue. PC's are no doubt better then consoles, that's just fact.

Buuuut.. You have to ask yourself, do you wanna drive a Volkswagon? Or can you justify the price for a Ferrari, or a Lamburgini? It's all about price, not everyone wants to upgrade their PC's every four or five years, dropping serious cash to do so. Keeping a PC up to date is without doubt far more expensive then console gaming.

So in short? Yeah, PC is undoubtedly superior that is fact, but another fact is its not for everyone. In the end the only inferior person is the person who has the nerve to chide or belittle you for whichever you pick to spend your time and money playing on.
 

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I like good games--wherever I can find them.

Sure, I game mostly on the PC--and I've generally built my own for the past decade or so. I also own a Wii and an Xbox 360, and even game on a Mac and iPhone. (I've also owned and gamed on various other consoles and computers over the years ... Atari 7800, Sega Genesis, Commodore 64, Macintosh Performa 6400/200, Sega Saturn, N64, various iMacs, GameCube ... you get the idea.)

There are certain advantages that make a computer superior in some ways for some games, and for most games I prefer the keyboard and mouse. Plus, I like being able to upgrade and tinker with my machine.

But to claim (or even think) that playing on a different machine makes someone less of a gamer is just childish nonsense. A gamer plays on what's available. If you can't afford to keep up with computer hardware or just don't want to get that technically involved in your gaming, then who cares? A "real" gamer plays games. Period.

Anyone running around acting like a PC is the only correct way to play games is likely just an immature, unsophisticated tool with loads of self-esteem issues--or else just a plain old-fashioned jerk. Maybe a troll.

My advice is not to listen to 'em.

Just enjoy your games.
 

SextusMaximus

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As a previous console gamer now mainly PC, it's undoubtable PC is better, HOWEVER, it's not like there's anything wrong if you wanna play consoles.
 

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Bhaalspawn said:
1337mokro said:
I really can't think of a PC gamer who doesn't own at least one other console.
*raises hand

Also are you seriously saying Bioware should be cut some slack?

Not after Dragon Age 2, the laziest game ever made.

Really? There are games out there that last about two hours in legnth, and DA2 is the laziest game ever made? Maybe the laziest BioWare game ever made, but of all time? That's a mighty claim to make, and about 2 hours of AVGN videos outta change that mentality pretty quickly.

If I've ever seen a game people overreacted about to an absurd degree, it's DA2 and ME3. Sure, I didn't care for them, but they weren't the most horrible games ever made. Grow up.
Poor PC gaming peasant.

A true member of the master race is not tied down to a single platform. We are all encompassing :)

But no.

Dragon Age 2 really is an incredibly lazy game.

Within a few minutes you will run into several dozen copy pasted rooms. About 90% of the buildings are 100% symmetrical for a reason. The simple fact that they can just open and close doors to create specific levels that they want.

It was hyperbole to claim it was the Laziest game ever. Desert Bus wins that prize, but it was the Laziest Game I have ever willingly payed money for.
 

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1337mokro said:
Bhaalspawn said:
1337mokro said:
I really can't think of a PC gamer who doesn't own at least one other console.
*raises hand

Also are you seriously saying Bioware should be cut some slack?

Not after Dragon Age 2, the laziest game ever made.

Really? There are games out there that last about two hours in legnth, and DA2 is the laziest game ever made? Maybe the laziest BioWare game ever made, but of all time? That's a mighty claim to make, and about 2 hours of AVGN videos outta change that mentality pretty quickly.

If I've ever seen a game people overreacted about to an absurd degree, it's DA2 and ME3. Sure, I didn't care for them, but they weren't the most horrible games ever made. Grow up.
Poor PC gaming peasant.

A true member of the master race is not tied down to a single platform. We are all encompassing :)

But no.

Dragon Age 2 really is an incredibly lazy game.

Within a few minutes you will run into several dozen copy pasted rooms. About 90% of the buildings are 100% symmetrical for a reason. The simple fact that they can just open and close doors to create specific levels that they want.

It was hyperbole to claim it was the Laziest game ever. Desert Bus wins that prize, but it was the Laziest Game I have ever willingly payed money for.
um just want to point out that the copy paste rooms were in DA:O as well there were just more types of them.
OT: i own every platform so i can play the games i like the way i like them. For instance id never play a dam RTS on a console nor would i play a platformer on a PC. Why you mays ask? because thats the way i want to play.

So for you op heres a bit of advice; stop careing what other people think,report/ignore the idiots who threaten you or just wont leave you alone and for gods sake dont lump everyone who plays PC or consoles into one lump group.
 

Mycroft Holmes

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chinangel said:
Wow...now you're just being an ass. Neo-Amish? Maybe I don't need my computer for anything else?
You're saying you don't care about computing getting better because you're happy with things now. That's basically the logic the Amish use to argue why technology shouldn't have moved passed horseless carriages and homespun cloth. Just because you don't care, doesn't make it any less important.

chinangel said:
I talk to my family through skype and I write stories?
This is a statement, there shouldn't be a question mark at the end unless you're confused about whether or not that's what you do with your computer.

chinangel said:
That's all I really need it for? You want to.. ..dismiss my points, that's your decision.
You make it really easy by using the same defunct point over and over. 'console is cheaper because I already bought it.' That's not a point that's an acknowledgement of a bad decision.

chinangel said:
I'm glad you enjoy your PC and I'm glad your proud of it.
I'm no more proud of being primarily a PC user than I am of being able to spell my own name. Which is to say not at all. Because points of pride are reserved for being able to do something that requires actual skill or talent.

chinangel said:
I'm proud of my console and yes I'll probably get the next generation of consoles. Why?
Because you take pride in paying more money for less product?

chinangel said:
Because I'm a console gamer who doesn't have time to figure out why her computer isn't running atm.
Because you either don't know how to not download viruses, or you have let your fan accumulate a ridiculous amount of dust. Buy compressed air, shoot it all over the inside of your computer every two weeks to a month. Or if the former problem, stay away from porn sites, stop downloading toolbars, or buy an antivirus program like norton.

And if that is not the problem then it should have a statistically equivalent ratio of breaking down to a console. The only difference would be that you could replace a single part(likely for less than 20$ if your computer is a year+ old) rather than rebuying a whole new console system.

chinangel said:
I've watched one of my friends (who is far more tech savvy than I am, though you likely have a snarky remark for that too) struggle with the computer her built. Bad parts sent by companies, parts failing, and problem after problem.
I have assembled or helped assemble at least 8 computers. I have only had one such circumstance where a part that was new did not work. We returned it got a new one and everything worked fine thereafter. Your friend is either not nearly as tech savvy as you think she is or she is extremely unlucky. Assuming the latter, I've heard people complain about their console systems constantly breaking so being unlucky isn't magically something that only 'PC gamers' have to deal with.

chinangel said:
Combine.. ..with your attitude and I'm pretty much off buying gaming computers.
lol spite: the temper tantrum of 'adults.'
 

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I'll leave you alone. *starts eating chips* You want some? DAMMIT!
 

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Is that the plan? Beat down console gamers until they can't take it and buy PC?
Damn! How'd he guess?

PC gamers are so pissed for just one reason, and you stated it: PC is a better gaming platform. It can do everything consoles can and more. But it never gets none of these. Consoles get the exclusives, consoles get all attention, consoles get all PR, and it makes PC gamers mad. Clearly more advanced and more flexible platform is nearly on outsiders position. "Piracy", you see? Why the heck then anyone on PC would bother buying anything on GOG.com (which seems to prosper) when all their games are DRM-free? "Controllers" you say? But there ARE gamepads and stuff alike for PC. Just develop what you need! "Expensive" you say, while a good enough gaming PC will cost you 500 bucks at most* (Windows included). There is no reasons for market superiority and priority of consoles but greed of console owners and lazyness of console buyers combined!

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*Yes, yes, really good rig will take up to $1000, but WTF? My ~$400 PC works quite fine with nearly any good game on middle graphic settings in worst case.
 

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ex275w said:
ajapam said:
The original Mass Effect was the only good one! The sequels are for CODfags!" Ok, we could improve the clunky gameplay and cut-and-paste sidequests, but the people want more inventory management and numbers that increase! Everyone who thinks we should improve the actual gameplay is an idiot!
The gameplay did "improve" but they didn't need to add ammo, remove gun customization, remove inventory management, remove healing and simplify the level up system so half your levels don't do anything.
Completely true. The leveling system was fine for me in the first game, ammo was totally unnecessary, and gun customization and inventory management should've been improved, rather than removed entirely. But I, along with many other people, still enjoyed ME2 quite a bit, and anyone who suggests that I'm an idiot for that is an ass.