Okay so that is what's happening in this thread? Awesome, thanks. I just wanted to be sure. As a white dude, I of course cannot stand to be left out of things when we're consulting and/or arguing with each other about social issues we tend to be the primary cause of.the clockmaker said:Because understanding is governed by the colour of the skin and the nature of your genitalia.itsthesheppy said:Oh hey guys is this another long rambling thread wherein a bunch of white dudes talk about the social struggle of people of a race/gender they don't share as if they have any idea what they're talking about? I just wanna be sure, there's like ten of these per week and I don't want to miss a single one, thanks.
Sorry for the interruption. I'm sure a lot of really good points were being made by people who clearly know what the fuck they're talking about.
Seriously, I am not in any way claiming that white people are oppressed or that discrimination against them goes beyond the superficial, but seriously now,
a-"We need to be understanding of everyone's view point"
b-"I have an opinion"
a-"Shut the fuck up, you are a white male and therefore have nothing of value to say"
You don't see the hypocrisy of that, or the closely linked hypocrisy of assuming that because someone comes from a social grouping that they immediately understand all issues related to that social grouping.
I'm not going to get involved into what actually is happening in this thread, but that belligerent and exclusionist attitude immediately denies you the right to claim that you are 'pro-equality'.
Furthermore, a hypocrisy that you personally are not guilty of but I have seen several times in this thread, complaining about the objectification of women and then linking a man's value to his number of sexual partners, ie
"you think that women who don't shave their armpits are unattractive,you are a permavirgin"
Why is it offensive to link a women's worth to her sexuality, but not a man to his?
If there's one thing that helps me listen and learn, it's talking at length about what I think, and pointing out that, okay, they have it bad, but what about my problems? Why aren't we talking about how this stuff effect me? Given that this thread is fourteen pages long, I think it's safe to say that this is exactly what people have been doing, so I think we can score this as another victory in our ongoing burden of holding the weight of the world on our rippling, muscly, sturdy, lily-white shoulders.