There is no reason I would do that.
Lifting Masks = Back to Getting Down With The Sickness
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Oh god, I remember plenty of those! The 1.0 version of the escapists and cracked.com this more times than I care to count. It's why I didn't bother with the articles 90% of the time. It was just speculative, click baiting, bullcrap.
I would generally agree, but when my love of an enemy leads to my detriment or the detriment of others, I have to draw a line. Like people in abusive relationships or toxic work environments, one has to take a stand and refuse to love as long as abuse is the status quo. People as those in that video need to be shut down, not compassion. Their ignorance and willful obtuseness is dangerous; loving them does nothing to address the root of their problem. In fact, they need enough people to NOT love them and call them on their bullshit to finally reflect on their decisions to be experts on shit they know nothing about. I'm not calling for their deaths (we can agree there,) but I'm certainly not going to be complicit in their decisions to endanger everyone around them.
Yeah I'm not calling for their deaths, but I shed zero tears when I hear they did die.
I cannot reason with unreasonable people and neither can you. At some point you just have to accept the fact that there are people out there who will not cooperate no matter what you do. And we should NOT be basing policy on trying to appease the unpleasable.
Personally, I have given the anti-vaxx/mask crowd all the chances in the world to show themselves as rational, responsible adults and they fail every time. I do not wish death and suffering upon them, but I will not pretend they have anyone but themselves to blame.
Thank you all for your responses.
I cannot hope to change the minds of people I've never met, let alone an angry mob. So why should I be angry at them? Why should I hold hate in my heart towards them? How does that help anyone, them or me?
I could understand if this is a situation where a person you know (within your sphere of influence) took an action that harms you, but being outraged at someone hundreds of miles away, though a screen, who you can not directly influence, seems like it's not good for your health.
If these were my children and they were acting badly, I should feel the burden of correcting these people, for it would be my duty to help them. But they are not. I have no duty towards them. Even as a citizen, I have no duty towards changing the minds of my fellow countrymen.
Feeling sorry for your enemies leads to a desire to help them.
Hating your enemies leads to a desire to kill them.
I'm not a politician, nor am I an activist. I don't change laws. I don't protest or march. As a result, my sphere of influence is very small.
I cannot hope to change the minds of people I've never met, let alone an angry mob. So why should I be angry at them? Why should I hold hate in my heart towards them? How does that help anyone, them or me?
I could understand if this is a situation where a person you know (within your sphere of influence) took an action that harms you, but being outraged at someone hundreds of miles away, though a screen, who you can not directly influence, seems like it's not good for your health.
If these were my children and they were acting badly, I should feel the burden of correcting these people, for it would be my duty to help them. But they are not. I have no duty towards them. Even as a citizen, I have no duty towards changing the minds of my fellow countrymen.
Losing compassion for your fellow man, no matter the reason, seems like a dangerous road to go down. Perhaps it's the first step of dehumanization. Perhaps soldiers are taught not to shed tears for those that they kill. That's mainly why I think that this direction is a bad one to go in. When you are convinced that you are right and just and moral, and that your opponents are vile and subhuman and unworthy of consideration, then it becomes easy to commit acts of violence.
Feeling sorry for your enemies leads to a desire to help them.
Hating your enemies leads to a desire to kill them.
So, empathy for an angry mob, but not for people who they threaten?
You equate lack of concern for their idiotic behavior with hate. That's your first false assumption. I don't hate them, but I have very little compassion for them anymore. When they willingly run headlong into their own idiocy. As to why I should be angry at them, it's because their idiocy doesn't just hurt them. As I stated in my response to you initially, they are fucking everything up for the rest of us. If you are fine with just looking at all that and just saying "well, bless their hearts, the poor dears" , well I'm not going to say good for you, because that kind of mentality is why they have been able to get away with so much.
You know what's not good for my health? Idiotic chucklefucks spreading a god damned plague across the planet. That's what you don't seem to understand, though your phrasing makes me think you might just be trolling, and typing from some high minded opinion, given your tone.
That's the part I think you don't get. You say "hey if they were someone near you, and were causing you problems, I might understand being frustrated" But they ARE causing problems. That's the whole thing with a transferrable PLAGUE. The disregard all sense of safety and precaution, completely unconcerned with anyone else around them, and then go mingle with each other, and spread it to someone else, who then spreads it to someone else, who then spreads it to my fucking job, and gets me and my coworkers infected. And they get the mother of my god daughters infected. And then someone fucking DIES, and it's their fucking fault. And often they can actually trace the infection route back to events. So they ARE, often responsible for harm, nowhere near where they are. So this little statement of your can just fuck right off.
You're right, tell them to stop dehumanizing all of us, and getting us killed due to their fucking idiocy, and I might worry about them again. But as someone who has been called a servant of the devil, and a minion of hell, and a deviant, and sinner, by these very fucking idiots, and had that opinion of theirs, be used to justify them treating me, and people like me like shit, I frankly have zero patience for them. THEY started this shit, by making anyone not them the enemy, on every level, from political, economical, national, and spiritual. They don't see us as fellow human beings, hell they don't even see us as fucking americans. We're all "The Enemy", and they are actively doing things to harm the rest of us, because they want to.
Don't fucking try and say this is MY fault, because I have zero patience for these violent, religious zealots, and the clusterfuck of damage they are causing world wide. I've tried being nice to them, and just letting bygones be bygones. They've exploited that view, to take advantage in EVERY way they can, and they do it gleefully, knowing full well they are taking advantage of our good will, to get one over on us.
Well, I'm fucking done with that. Fuck them. They get ZERO sympathy from me until they clean up their act.
Oh blow it out your ass you pretentious fuck.
I'm not upset, I'm annoyed at your fairly tone deaf platitudes about a situation that has killed roughly 4.2 MILLION people world wide, and roughly 600K in the US alone.
Handled with care, anger is a great motivator. Angry gets shit done.
You do appear more concerned with the convenience of the antagonists rather than the rights of their victims.
Let's not equate anger with hatred. Let's not mistake anger at a ignorance with hatred towards the individuals of which it is comprised. I bear no hatred towards the people in that specific video; I bear anger towards what they blindly stand for and lack the fortitude to question.
I bear no hatred for my fellow man; I bear anger towards those that would cultivate and reinforce the ignorance they believe themselves to be thriving in. You can't teach what is right by giving validation to what is wrong. I can't "love" a klansman who would "love" nothing more than to see me swinging by a noose from a tree. I can be angry at a system of beliefs that tells him it's ok to feel the way he does. If we can't meet in the middle, and you call that "hatred," then so be it, but I'm not extending the olive branch to someone who would rather yank my arm out of its socket tearing said branch from my grasp because he doesn't "love" me.
What a completely vacuous load of pseudo-philosophy, that could only be spouted by someone trying (very, very badly) to pretend to be "true neutral".
It certainly has that stench about it.
It is obviously Houseman.
When you see a post like that, it's clear that the person is not arguing in good faith. Put on ignore and move on with your life.
The shit that these people believe in, the extent that they will go to try to prove their retarded points. These people are antisocial as fuck. No wonder they're all incels.
I said, in my first post in this topic:
"I really detest this "framing people with different opinions from you as sub-human and worthy of death" thing that I've been seeing in recent years on the internet.
Especially on reddit and twitter, I've been seeing more and more people grave-dancing, demonizing, making thinly-veiled calls for violence and outright wishing of death upon other people. From both sides. "
I am not more concerned with one side or the other, I detest the demonizing going on from both sides.
But clearly my contributions are not appreciated here, so I will leave. Peace be upon you all.
If all you have to contribute is "both sides" sophistry, then no it is not appreciated here.
So how sorry should people for this nurse, considering it will have affected people's interactions with their at risk loved ones?
https://www.npr.org/2021/08/11/1026863219/nurse-fake-covid-vaccine-germany-saline?
https://www.npr.org/2021/08/11/1026863219/nurse-fake-covid-vaccine-germany-saline?
Criminal endangerment, medical malpractice, attempted manslaughter, actual manslaughter if anybody died.
Fucking hell
Fucking hell