You're so full of shit, dude. I'm out.
How am I full of shit, you said something I didn't say and all I did was say I didn't say that cuz I didn't.
My eyes long since glazed over due to the rampant obsession with Vitamin D over masks, vaccines or pretty much anything else.
Its like watching an essential oils Evangelical except with Vitamin D.
People don't actually look at the data, they only go by public health messaging. It's why people wear masks outside, there isn't a single data point saying masks work outside yet people wear them outside.
Already posted, learn to read.
Already posted, learn to read.
Nope, Nope. You didn't post anything, I read it all, you just made some random claim with no evidence whatsoever. If masks worked during the Spanish Flu then where's all these stories citing masks working then to get people to mask today? If masks worked back then, you'd just be able to point to it and say wear a mask now. Where's the say CNN article or whatever about masks worked before thus we should wear them now?
No, actually there are examples of hypercalcaemia at 5,000 IUs Vit D daily, although normally associated with other conditions and intake of other supplements. But that is after all the point of recommended doses, precisely to ensure people get enough without getting too much.
So other conditions and other supplements. I believe a papers have said 10,000 is perfectly safe. And, you just gotta take it with vitamin k if you're really concerned.
I do not think that announcing you are completely ignorant is a good gambit to establish your credibility. But at least you are finally admitting your ignorance.
What you said has been proven wrong or at least how much you think it has an affect. If people with vitamin d deficiency just needed one big dose to get them back to normal, then there'd be data on that and there isn't. If someone says the world is flat you don't need to prove it to them with scientific equations and curvatures and whatnot, you can just show them a picture of the earth.
And the fact you think that is precisely why it would help if you understood pharmacokinetics. Clearance occurs usually through first order kinetics (exponential decay). The more you have, the faster you clear it. So if someone clears 30% of a drug daily, starting the drug at day 1, 50mg once weekly actually means that on day 7 they have less drug in their body than someone taking 4mg daily. They take another 50mg day 8, but again they are below the person taking the daily dose at day 12. And so on.
That basic principle holds with vitamin D, although it's rather more complex.
Show me any study that shows a single big dose of vitamin d will get someone up to normal levels from deficient levels because that is what you argued. Where's the data to prove it?
This, biologically, makes absolutely no sense at all. If you take a huge, single bolus of vitamin D3, once absorbed it will start being converted into the 25OHD and then the active form of vitamin D by liver enzymes immediately, and tissue delivery will occur rapidly.
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Sure. Not everyone is equal - they may have poor absorption or metabolism, and also, "the levels they wanted them to be" sounds awfully vague. Maybe those levels are stupidly and unnecessarily high.
So 3 doctors that all take over 3,000 IUs a day just so happen to have poor absorption? At least 2 were under 30ng/ml taking 2,000/day. Fauci takes 6,000/day, no clue what his levels are or his goal though.
Yes, now put that in the context of you declaring masks are unnecessary outside, even in crowded places where people are in close proximity.
Chicago had Lollapalooza and look at all the people bunched together outside and no super spreader event. So what data shows you masks are needed outside in any circumstance?
In the weeks leading up to, and following, the Lollapalooza music festival in Chicago, residents and observers expressed concerns that the event would turn into a “COVID super-spreader,” but Chicago health officials insist that hasn’t happened.
www.nbcchicago.com
Yawn. Again ignoring the bigger picture.
Show me a good mask study, something on par with what is needed to show a drug is effective. I really don't get how you hate all these other studies saying they aren't good enough. Compare to even those poor studies, mask studies are horrendously bad.
So... How long until the rage against current anti-vaxxers reaches the ones that don't want their 3rd and 4th etc. shots? Sure, if the immunity really is so short-lived that uneven vaccine distribution won't cover enough people at any given time, there is an argument for booster shots, but y'know, the hate is inevitable.
There is some data to lead one to believe the vaccines might not work in the sense that they might not provide a proper B and T cell response for long-term immunity. It's very early for that theory to be very substantive but it could be a possibility. We already know that natural immunity lasts 8+ months and if the vaccines can't even do that, then that's not good.
I'm fine with Vitamin D. I take supplements daily. I also wear a mask indoors in a public place/at work and have been vaccinated and don't go hang around in crowds(and I'm avoiding the public pool for the moment until Delta calms the fuck down). I think it's more of the fact someone here seems to be somewhat obsessed with it over pretty much all over covid measures that has my eyes rolling.
There's basically no risk getting covid at the pool outside. The sun kills it (fact), chlorine kills it (fact), the air disperses it. I'm sure there's not an absolutely 0% chance of getting covid at the pool but you got a much bigger chance of drowning than getting covid. I really don't understand why people have drastically changed what their acceptable risk levels are. Driving to the pool is more dangerous and you'd do that before the pandemic right? Doing anything inside in public is where the danger is at.
