Lineage II Junkie Sues NCsoft for His Addiction

Calhoun347

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It's like people don't understand the meaning of Frivolous lawsuit.

If the Judge doesn't throw out this case, It will sadden me.
 

The Code

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Honestly, I'm actually surprised that no one has tried to sue WoW for the very same reason. I fear the future of this world...
 

Jumplion

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I think you guys are missing the point. Everything shouldn't have to come with a warning label warning you about every possibility that could happen to you if you use the product. People should use some common sense and stop blaming others for their stupid mistakes.
The woman only wanted enough money to cover her skin grafts.

And McDonals was warned several times about this, infact there were reports of over over 300 cases similar to this. She was just the last straw on the camel's back.

Hot coffee will burn you if you spill it on yourself. Common sense says to handle it carefully. Spending too much time(2 freaking years) on a game will mess up your life if you let it. Common sense says don't let that happen.

If I drop my PSP on my foot and break a toe, do I sue them for making it heavy enough to break a toe and not putting a warning label on it? No. Instead, I use common sense and hold on to it tight enough not to drop it.

Common sense.
3rd. Degree. Burns. I was going to link an image of a 3rd degree burn, but decided against it, go to Google Images and see what one looks like.

Common sense dictates that coffee should not be unnecessarily hot, McDonalds served their coffee several degrees hotter than the standard requirement (I.E. scalding hot) and it happened with over 300 people, albeit with not as severe burns.

Are you seriously expecting a frail old woman to be able to withstand the temperature of scalding hot coffee?

EDIT: Pfft, scratch that, over 700 cases. Thanks Rooty.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
The Liebeck case [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants] rested on the fact that the coffee was actually hotter than it could or should have been.
There is no legal or illegal temperature for serving beverages(That I can find, anyway. If you can find one, I'll happily retract that statement). If the company can heat it to 8000 degrees, they can serve it.

People learn at a very early age that "fire burn". Hot shit hurts. We all know it. Common sense dictates that you should be careful when handling things that could potentially hurt you. I'll quote myself:

Everything shouldn't have to come with a warning label warning you about every possibility that could happen to you if you use the product. People should use some common sense and stop blaming others for their stupid mistakes.
Lawsuits like this come about because people don't want to accept the fact that they screwed something up. They don't want to be responsible. They just want money.
 

Beat14

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Been inside so long he must have forgot what is classed as acceptable and ridiculous.
 

-Samurai-

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Jumplion said:
Snipped because I'm tired of replying to walls of text that say the same things over and over.
Since you're not going to get it, I'm not gonna keep this up.

People can blame and sue others for their mistakes, but they're still the one that made the mistake. They're still the one that didn't use common sense. It's still their fault for messing up.

That's all.
 

Jumplion

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There is no legal or illegal temperature for serving beverages(That I can find, anyway. If you can find one, I'll happily retract that statement). If the company can heat it to 8000 degrees, they can serve it.
I believe the recommended amount is 140 degrees, but I could be completely wrong.

People learn at a very early age that "fire burn". Hot shit hurts. We all know it. Common sense dictates that you should be careful when handling things that could potentially hurt you.
She was careful! She was parked, in the passenger's seat, carefully adding sugar and whatnot to the coffee about to enjoy it. Then she spilled it, okay, well shit happens. But it was scalding. Again, look up some images on 3rd degree burns, they're absolutely brutal.

Lawsuits like this come about because people don't want to accept the fact that they screwed something up. They don't want to be responsible. They just want money.
She only asked for $20,000, just enough to cover her skin graft costs.

McDonalds counter-offered with $800.

Yes, what a greedy *****.
 

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Ridiculous! I would bring up another frivolous case to illustrate how unredeemably stupid this is, but it has been many times before me, so I won't.

DeadlyYellow said:
Craig Smallwood said:
This entertainment is so entertaining it must be illegal, let me call my lawyer!
Dude, learn some self control.

This is the most pathetic thing I've heard since I learned they're making a Fred movie.
Like this. Also: Kabouter Plop. whu..?
 

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Jumplion said:
I believe the recommended amount is 140 degrees, but I could be completely wrong.
Recommended =/= law.

As for the rest, read the above(or what would now be the previous page. You get it).
 

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If this is a publicity stunt it's a clever one...I'm highly interested in Lineage II right now.
 

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Mr. Grey said:
She was parked.

Her own grandson parked the car so she could add cream and sugar. Who said she was driving it?
You're right. The case was from 1992 so I didn't remember all the details. I checked but decided not to edit.

The point still stands. You know something is hot and has the potential to harm you. Handle it carefully. It was obviously hot(as I'm sure the steam coming out of it and the heat from the cup would indicate). Let it cool or open it somewhere that won't get it all over you should you spill it. Common sense.

Jumplion said:
-Samurai- said:
I wouldn't be stupid enough to put obviously hot coffee between my legs while driving.

Common sense could have saved her some pain. But, who want's to have common sense when you could get rich by being a complete moron?
3rd degree burns. That's the equivalent of catching on fire or being scaled in boiling water. Spilling mildly hot coffee, sure, then I could see it. But 3rd. fucking. degree. burns! That's McDonalds fault, whether she put it between her legs or not.
I think you guys are missing the point. Everything shouldn't have to come with a warning label warning you about every possibility that could happen to you if you use the product. People should use some common sense and stop blaming others for their stupid mistakes.

Hot coffee will burn you if you spill it on yourself. Common sense says to handle it carefully. Spending too much time(2 freaking years) on a game will mess up your life if you let it. Common sense says don't let that happen.

If I drop my PSP on my foot and break a toe, do I sue them for making it heavy enough to break a toe and not putting a warning label on it? No. Instead, I use common sense and hold on to it tight enough not to drop it.

Common sense.
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not siding with this guy. He could have stopped as much as he wanted, but he didn't and now relies on blaming people. What I find so hilarious from this guy is that if he sues NCSoft and wins, he'll just use that money to continue playing the game.

It's also kind of sad, but I'm laughing more than crying. Possibly crying from laughing too hard.

In the case of the elderly woman... well... The_root_of_all_evil handled that. Hot coffee, shouldn't be that hot.

I didn't say she handled it as a genius, but when you're that old - and very weak that you have to resort to holding it with your legs to steady it - and have gone through that kind of torment, she has every right to sue the people responsible. Besides, a judge knocked down the original award of millions to $640,000 and McDonald's saw to it to pay her some confidential amount before an appeal went through. McDonald's even ignored the settlement offers that was less than $640,000. They made their bed, they have to lie in it.

Hell, I'd sue if I went through that. I probably never will, though, for two reasons A) I don't drink coffee and B) even if I did, I'd handle it the farthest away from my body. Usually on a counter or so.

I lay full blame on the grandson, to be honest... who wouldn't offer to put cream and sugar in that coffee for their own grandmother?
 

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..Yeah, this guy is going to get laughed out (hopefully) before anything even starts. Why America? Why must your legal system be more a money grab than anything productive?

People get sued in that country for petty reasons more than they have meals in a month..
 

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-Samurai- said:
Jumplion said:
Snipped because I'm tired of replying to walls of text that say the same things over and over.
Since you're not going to get it, I'm not gonna keep this up.

People can blame and sue others for their mistakes, but they're still the one that made the mistake. They're still the one that didn't use common sense. It's still their fault for messing up.

That's all.
*shrug* If the blame-ee never did it in the first place, there'd be nobody to blame.

I'm not trying to sound like I'm raging here, though I probably am, I'm just trying to clarify the subject. Besides, I like arguing, it's fun :D

She did not sue because there was no warning label. She did not sue because she dropped her cup. She sued because McDonalds wanted to give her a paltry $800 to cover her 3rd degree burn skin grafts. If the coffee was a much cooler temperature than was given, still warm/mildly hot, then her burns would have been a lot less worse and probably could have gone away scott free.

EDIT: And to clarify, I'm not siding with the NCsoft guy, read my original post on the first page.
 

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Burwood123 said:
If he knows it's addicting.. get help? Only in the US, would someone SUE someone else, for their own wrong doing
True :( any more this country just gets dumber and dumber. Of all the stupid things. Thank goodness he is banned from Lineage at least. Lazy, baby. Grow up why don't you. Oh and part of the lawsuit. No warning of addiction PFFFT only you can GET UP OUT OF THAT CHAIR It's not rocket science. How weak willed are you>
 

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-Samurai- said:
Jumplion said:
I believe the recommended amount is 140 degrees, but I could be completely wrong.
Recommended =/= law.

As for the rest, read the above(or what would now be the previous page. You get it).
Recommended = Safety

McDonalds chose to waiver the safety of 700+ their customers to make a few extra bucks, they were bound to be put in their place eventually.

It's recommended to cook patties until it is healthy to eat, unless the customer wants otherwise I suppose. Doesn't mean that McDonalds shouldn't do it.
 

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Mr. Grey said:
I lay full blame on the grandson, to be honest... who wouldn't offer to put cream and sugar in that coffee for their own grandmother?
Now we're getting somewhere. Perhaps he was in on it?[small]*shifty eyes*[/small]

OT(for the first time since my first post in this thread): I should probably tell a few of my friends about this. It's about that time for them to realize that their addiction to the horror that is Silkroad Online has made them unfit for society.