Lineage II Junkie Sues NCsoft for His Addiction

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-Samurai- said:
There is no legal or illegal temperature for serving beverages(That I can find, anyway. If you can find one, I'll happily retract that statement). If the company can heat it to 8000 degrees, they can serve it.
IANAL, as I've said before, but the Food Safety Act ('90) Part II seems to cover this
7 Rendering food injurious to health

(1) Any person who renders any food injurious to health by means of any of the following operations, namely?

(a) adding any article or substance to the food;

(b) using any article or substance as an ingredient in the preparation of the food;

(c) abstracting any constituent from the food; and

(d) subjecting the food to any other process or treatment,

with intent that it shall be sold for human consumption, shall be guilty of an offence.

(2) In determining for the purposes of this section and section 8(2) below whether any food is injurious to health, regard shall be had?

(a) not only to the probable effect of that food on the health of a person consuming it; but

(b) also to the probable cumulative effect of food of substantially the same composition on the health of a person consuming it in ordinary quantities.

(3) In this Part ?injury?, in relation to health, includes any impairment, whether permanent or temporary, and ?injurious to health? shall be construed accordingly.
(BTW Beverages are defined as food earlier)

14 Selling food not of the nature or substance or quality demanded

(1) Any person who sells to the purchaser?s prejudice any food which is not of the nature or substance or quality demanded by the purchaser shall be guilty of an offence.
Although the workers could claim due diligence against charges and the managers could claim company policy, with the company policy officers claiming, as McDonald's did, that it was statistically safe.

And this is only UK Law; I'm nowhere near qualified enough to give ideas on US Law.


Everything shouldn't have to come with a warning label warning you about every possibility that could happen to you if you use the product. People should use some common sense and stop blaming others for their stupid mistakes.
700 people sued McDonalds for injuries. I think we can reasonably assume there's at least another 1000 out there who didn't sue. Nearly 2000 people directly injured and MaccyD's (and others) are still doing this, despite their own market research that states it's counter to their sales?

I think it deserves to be investigated if nothing else. Remember that Liebeck only got <$6000 after hounding them repeatedly.
Lawsuits like this come about because people don't want to accept the fact that they screwed something up. They don't want to be responsible. They just want money.
In this case, and possibly this alone, I'd be far more interested in the coffee than the suit. If injuring 700 people is insignificant to drive change, that makes me exceedingly worried.

BUT, the Lineage guy...yeah, he's a tool.
 

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If he knows it's addicting.. get help? Only in the US, would someone SUE someone else, for their own wrong doing
You know, I can almost imagine the situation, sadly:

"You shot me!" "You were in the way of my bullet! Be more careful!" "..."

*Gets sued for being shot by the shooter.*
 

MurderousToaster

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So, if I stab myself I can sue the fucking knife company? What's wrong with these idiots? His lack of social function is entirely his fault. If I buy a car and drive it into a wall, I'm not going to sue the car company.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Just gonna snip all that to save space.
There are so many loopholes in that thing that I could basically sue for any meal I've gotten from any restaurant I've ever eaten at in my entire life.

Hell, I had a burger earlier that was big enough to warrant a toothpick to hold it together. If I bit that toothpick and damaged the inside of my mouth, I could probably sue, but I'd still be the idiot that bit a toothpick.

Besides, McDonalds serves an estimated 87 million people per day in 113 countries. If a few thousand of those people burn themselves on a hot product, it hardly sounds like a giant deal. I can think of a few thousand people that need to be more careful.

At least we can agree on this "junkie".
 

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Wow... A Fucking Cretin! It was his fault for not consulting his close friends or family or a doctor about the addiction. The game didn't intend to induce addictive effects to players! He's just seeing if he could rack up some money by suing them... Ugh... I got the rage I have for Neebs now to this man!
 

Denamic

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I should shoot myself in the leg and sue H&K for 10 million dorra.
Seems worth it.
 
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Hell, I had a burger earlier that was big enough to warrant a toothpick to hold it together. If I bit that toothpick and damaged the inside of my mouth, I could probably sue, but I'd still be the idiot that bit a toothpick.
You do know that if you have a rare steak in London you have to sign a waiver promising not to sue if you get ill? yeah...

Reminds me of that dog puppet we had to remove some Xmas's ago because someone claimed it caused birth defects.
Besides, McDonalds serves an estimated 87 million people per day in 113 countries. If a few thousand of those people burn themselves on a hot product, it hardly sounds like a giant deal. I can think of a few thousand people that need to be more careful.
You realise that you've just supported Corporate "Industrial Accidents" as legal? That's a slope I DON'T want to go down, especially not with BP.
At least we can agree on this "junkie".
Like I said, there are a lot of prime dumbfucks in this world, but they're not all the suer's (sp?), so are those that allow cigarette lighters on planes but not insulin, make coffee at a dangerous temperature or mark packets of peanuts "May Contain Nuts".
 

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-Samurai- said:
Besides, McDonalds serves an estimated 87 million people per day in 113 countries. If a few thousand of those people burn themselves on a hot product, it hardly sounds like a giant deal. I can think of a few thousand people that need to be more careful.

At least we can agree on this "junkie".
700 lawsuits is a lot for any company, I don't care how big. It's only a matter of time before one of those lawsuits gets big enough.
 

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I'm sorry, defective?

I mean, it's got him playing it, hasn't it? Then it's not defective, that's its purpose.

Still, nothing funnier than people who can't accept responsibility. Almost every farce out there is based on that, and it's no less funny in real life.

Here's hoping it gets thrown out of court and that guy gets some help.
He can always take some medicine [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/102927-South-Korea-Discovers-StarCraft-Addiction-Drug]. Though if someone lacks so much self-control over their behaviour, then maybe some rehab is in order.
I may as well sue Pepsico for my addiction to Mountain Dew. Except I can control myself mostly because I am an adult.
 

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When you're addicted to gambling do you sue the casinos?
No, because 99.9% of your patrons are playing just for fun and the excitement of it. It's not the casino's fault you can't restrain yourself and the situation is similar with games.

If you have a problem with gaming it's YOUR problem. The reasoning is that you just happened to land on Linage II. Any other MMO would be more or less just as addicting to this person. The problem is his own, not the fault of the companies.
 

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That's a very poor reason to sue NCsoft. Personally I would sue them for shoving several thousand people into a crater, attacking them with thousands more alien troops, and the survival of humanity almost seemed possible, pulling the plug on the entire world.
 

Therumancer

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Well, I have some concerns here.

Understand that unlike the fast food case, a lot of politicians have a stake in this one, not to mention all the anti-video game whackos who support them. If this guy was to win this case it could be used as precedent for the regulation, control, and/or censorship of online games which is something that a lot of politicians want. Even if it doesn't do anything drastic in an immediate sense, it opens up the door. Thus dude could be used as the poster child to justify pretty much everything people like Hillary Clinton have been ranting about for years if he was to win the case.

I doubt many people are naive enough to think that the system is above corruption, especially when the goverment, especially parts of the goverment high up the food chain, want something. When judges buck the system and the pressure in the name of integrity, that makes for a great "feel good" type story in many cases, but it's interesting and admirable because of all those who fail, or fall prey to temptation.

Given the technical nature of the case I have no idea if this will go before a Jury or be resolved by a Judge (depends on the people involved). The standards in a civil court proceeding are also a lot lower than in a criminal one for purposes of evidence and such. I wouldn't be surprised if as things are getting set up the Judge is being offered a lot of money or favors, and if there is a Jury that it winds up being loaded.

Basically, this is EXACTLY the kind of case people like Hillary Clinton, Jack Thomson, and various other anti-video game personalities and politicians of note have been waiting for.
 

Kuilui

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Why blame yourself and take a deep look at wtf is wrong with you. Go to a rehab for gamers (They actually exist if you didn't know)and fix yourself. NO NO, wrong, sue everyone and blame whatever company made the product, its their fault your pathetic. Yes that's the better answer..

I'm just surprised it wasn't some WoW addict..
 

Tom Phoenix

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Honestly, that is what you get for playing Lineage II. Many MMO's are accused of being filled with grind, but Lineage II is grind incarnate. Your actions are given no context, you just have to randomly kill monster after monster to get anywhere. If he has spent so much time playing it, it's little wonder he has trouble functioning properly.

Lineage II was my first MMO, but I thankfully switched to World of WarCraft later on. Even if WoW has many of it's downsides, at least I had no trouble functioning in real life and quitting the game once obligations forced me to spend less time on gaming and more on studying.

EDIT: Just to clarify, though, I am not blaming the game for what happened to this guy. He is entirely responsible that he allowed such a state of affairs to occur.
 

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Wakefield said:
This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all week.
Did you not see that idiot earlier today, saying he was going to sue Bethesda for delaying the release of some Fallout 3 DLC on the PS3? It was hilarious.
 

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mattttherman3 said:
The stupidity of people, this guy is a dumbass, stop trying to ruin it for everyone else junkie.
What's even dumber is Herp Derp Sterling from Destructoid increased the number to 200,000. I guess he didn't realize that would extend beyond the existence of the fucking game!