No, it wasn't Lucas who retconned it, it was Drew Karpyshin proving that he cannot use other people's creations without destroying them. The Revan novel fucking sucks, and I'd declare it non canon when put beside The Sith Lords.ravenshrike said:
LucasArts Unveils Star Wars 1313
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And that's why I hate them. They have this huge universe full of all kinds of people and places and things, and a timeline that allegedly spans thousands of years... but we always have to run into the same handful of people. It makes the "huge universe" look like a background painted on the wall of a tiny room.TimeLord said:
Even The Old Republic, though set super-far before A New Hope, has a Han-like smuggler complete with Wookiee companion.
I look at a game like this, and I want to believe in it, but I can't shake the feeling that:
1. There will be Mandalorian armor all over the place, probably on you.
2. The crime boss will be a Hutt.
3. There will be a Zabrak (Darth Maul) henchman.
4. Someone, somewhere has a pet Rancor.
5. If you get a ship, it'll either look like Fett's or Solo's.
6. You'll see at least one Twi'lek female dancer.
7. There will be an assassin droid that at least reminds us of HK-47.
8. You're going to hear colloquialisms that reference Banthas, Gundarks, and Rancors as though every person or every species on every planet in the whole galaxy only knows the same seven animals and uses the same slang.
9. You'll also hear "Sithspit" at least twice. Same reason.
10. Lightsabers. Lightsabers everywhere. Expect double-bladed, too.
...wait, so who exactly is developing it? LucasArts in-house? Like, the guys who did The Force Unleashed?
I'll keep my eye open for it, but hopefully it'll turn out better than TFU did.
I'll keep my eye open for it, but hopefully it'll turn out better than TFU did.
Where the hell are you getting this information? The game was canceled because of Lucasarts' financial crash in 07-08, which also killed Battlefront 3 and Rogue Squadron 4. Where exactly is this direct quote from GL that he wanted to kill Obsidian's ideas?ravenshrike said:
Tbh I think that this is the most likely point on the list to show up, and probably the most minor.Dastardly said:
There goes any single ounce of interest I might have had. Did they just decide to use every cliche they could think or something?WMDogma said:
Oddly, I still prefer my messed up fever-dream idea of a remake of The Munsters except starring Darth Vader as the monstrous but endearing everyman with an undead wife.
Mandalorains have been around for a very long, long time--thousands of years before Knights of the Old Republic. So take a sample of any period in Star Wars time and you're almost certain to have Mandalorians in it and therefore, their amrour.Dastardly said:
Hutts are a species that defines the meaning of life as the pursuit of greed itself. The bigger, fatter and wealthier a Hutt, the better in their eyes. Since the species appeared they have joined and run criminal groups. I see no more a reason to take issue with a Hutt crimelord than a human president.
You never get the ship Fett or Solo use in the movies. In any game (that doesn't star them). You might use similar makes and models, but hey, that's kind of how manufactures work. You don't think every Ford Falcon or Holden Commodore is the same, do you? Fett and Solo used the ships they used because they were good ships and did exactly what they needed. Not really a revelation that similar people in similar roles would also find them good.
I understand your disdain for the cliche and I agree with you on all of it; every single time I see a Star Wars product I instantly know every character you'll see, every place you'll go and what will happen. But some things just have to be expected. Star Wars is a powerful brand that generates a lot of money, so they have to keep it recognizably "Star Wars." The extended fiction is fine for comics and novels. But when investing a lot of money in something like a game or movie, you need brand recognition and people come to see what they know Star Wars to be.
So yeah, it sucks, but it's understandable in some instances.
The tie for first place star wars universe games goes to Dark Forces (and Jedi Knight) and Tie Fighter. All the other games pale in comparison to those gems.
I wish lucas arts would get off their butts and make a proper sequel to Outlaws, but only as long as they keep the same music as the original. Check out the intro here and see if it doesn't just suck you in. Worth watching till the end for the music.
I wish lucas arts would get off their butts and make a proper sequel to Outlaws, but only as long as they keep the same music as the original. Check out the intro here and see if it doesn't just suck you in. Worth watching till the end for the music.
EVERYONE BUY IT! NOW! I WANT BATTLEFRONT!Sixties Spidey said:
*ahem*
I shall await further news.
Captcha: Comeback. I sure as hell hope so.
And ancient Rome's army had massive numbers, but I'm not tripping over their armor everywhere I go. For a supposedly ancient and mysterious group like the Mandalorians, not only is their armor very common, it's also very mainstream.Grey Day for Elcia said:
See, while there's no reason for Mandalorian armor to be completely gone, one has to suppose there are (in a GALAXY) at least a few hundred other cultures that also had some halfway decent armor.
It boils down to "Boba Fett sold actions figures."
Again, in something as big as a GALAXY, there wouldn't be such a high percentage of Hutt crime lords. Unless, of course, it's just that Hutts make for easily marketable bad guys, and they're a cheap and easy way to make sure a given story has enough "Star Wars flavor."
And again, in a GALAXY, and time spanning THOUSANDS of years, one might expect there to be at least a handful of design changes. Or, perhaps, for the Corellian Engineering Corporation to have had at least a slump, in which they weren't the galaxy's leading supplier of a particular type of starship.
And this is where I sit on the matter. There is no acceptable canon explanation for just how common all of this crap is. It's brand recognition. Each product must contain X% of the necessary iconography.
The problem is that, while making sure everyone knows "just how Star Wars" a product is, it serves the additional purpose of shrinking the universe down to about four city blocks.
Of course, we ought not to expect global thinking from creators who think it's acceptable for each planet to have only one biome...