Mafia II Accused of Racism, Take-Two Responds
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Ok here is the thing I am Descended from Italian immigrants that were in the mob back during the 30's and 40's I am not offended in the least. Quite honestly I think it is a really awesome game and I hope they don't bow to any of this stupidity that Unico is putting out.
I'm going to repeat what I said on another thread:
TheYellowCellPhone said:I want to say this: The world is mean and racist. Why shouldn't a game be?
Oh right, it's "young audience".
You know, it would kind of be interesting to see a game explore other mafias: there was the Irish Mafia, the Russian Mafia, the Chinese Mafia, the Jewish Mafia. It is quite silly, though, to claim that the world should turn a blind eye to the fact that there was, in fact, an Italian Mafia.
This would be a classic example of people trying to deny parts of their ethnic background, only more stupid. Obviously they aren't fans of The Godfather.
The Godfather faced its own problems during its day. The Italian-American Civil Rights League( led by crime boss Joe Colombo) and Frank Sinatra opposed the filming of the movie. They were placated by producer Al Ruddy and as part of their deal the words Mafia and Cosa Nostra were removed from the film. After this deal, the actual mafia provided security and other services on set. Lenny Montana, the actor who played Luca Brasi, was actually a bodyguard for a Colombo mafioso.
These controversies are nothing new. Sadly it seems that placating these groups is now much harder.
These controversies are nothing new. Sadly it seems that placating these groups is now much harder.
'Unico's Andre DiMino has demanded that Take-Two halt the release of the 2K Czech-developed game entirely so it can be "cleansed" of all references to Italians and Italian-Americans.'
How would one go about removing Italians from a game about Italians.
They are basically and unreasonably asking a company to rewrite and remake an entire game, so much so that the title would no longer be relevant. They can't really think a studio is going to abandon a project on which they've spent years and hundreds of mils, because of ITALIAN sensitivity. Maybe if it was a Muslim thing...
Besides, I played the demo and ventilated plenty of Irish criminals. Be happy the I-ties are the good guys.
How would one go about removing Italians from a game about Italians.
They are basically and unreasonably asking a company to rewrite and remake an entire game, so much so that the title would no longer be relevant. They can't really think a studio is going to abandon a project on which they've spent years and hundreds of mils, because of ITALIAN sensitivity. Maybe if it was a Muslim thing...
Besides, I played the demo and ventilated plenty of Irish criminals. Be happy the I-ties are the good guys.
Seriously, this is stupid. I agreed with Unica's complaint against Jersey Shore, but not this time. There are a lot of worse stereotypes than mobster. Hell, it's pretty awesome, as far as I'm concerned. What about all the portrayal of Irishmen as angry drunks? I'm totally okay with that.
Well, it would be the Irish Mob, we operated a little differently then the Italian Mafia. Where a Italian boss would order one of his goons to make a hit, an Irish boss would do it himself, like James "Whitey" Bulger.Celtic_Kerr said:
Its spelled CeltsQuid Plura said:
OT: Really? Has Unico National gone after every book, movie and tv show that had anything about the Italian Mafia in it?
What you mean divers don't really have magic arms that shoot bees and protect small children from any form of dangercrotalidian said:
I suppose that they might have some sort of point but to find out I would have to play the game, gain a good enough knowledge of Italian Americans to see if the characters are offensive stereotypes and research gang culture of the period to see how deeply other groups were involved. Ugh, way too much work. Or in the words of Dutch Shultz. "Come on, open the soap duckets. The chimney sweeps. Talk to the sword. Shut up, you got a big mouth! Please help me up, Henry. Max, come over here. French-Canadian bean soup. I want to pay. Let them leave me alone."
This guy doesn't watch much film or TV or read any books either guess.
One way to quell this is to make him an offer he can't refuse.
One way to quell this is to make him an offer he can't refuse.
Yeah, let's just forgot that period in time ever existed. Maybe we should go through and purge classics like The Godfather of any reference to the Italian mob ever existing.
Seriously, if the Germans still have to live with the whole Nazi thing, Italians can put up with the mob thing.
This comic seemed relevant, and every thread could use Calvin and Hobbes.
Seriously, if the Germans still have to live with the whole Nazi thing, Italians can put up with the mob thing.
This comic seemed relevant, and every thread could use Calvin and Hobbes.
That whole, "idiots trading valuable things for pretty glass beads that they treasure like rear jewels," thing, I think, shows how most people today are disconnected from the reality of manufacturing. Glass is a very high tech product for a small and less advanced community but glass is also still one of the most versatile and practical materials we have today. And the natives did have the ability to heat up the glass beads and make things with them. I suppose that they did make jewellery out of them but a practical purpose of jewellery is to make it easy for nomadic people to wear their wealth.Therumancer said:
Damn, it's official guys, we can no longer think of the Mafia as being Italian or cool. So I guess we should follow unico's suggestion: from now on Italians will only be depicted as lazy, hairy, overweight assholes with ridiculous New York accents, who eat greasy food and complain constantly. There, that's free of racism, yes unico?
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go burn an Italian flag and watch The Godfather, which apparently is the quintessential racist movie...
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go burn an Italian flag and watch The Godfather, which apparently is the quintessential racist movie...
