Man Forgot Loaded Handgun in His Carry-On, TSA Forgot To Notice

[Pyode]

Thanks for reminding me why I hate discussing US politics, Treblaine.

(And yes, I realise what the response [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb0oP2Jcl-M&l#t=0m35s] and the ensuring conversation to this will probably be).

Discussing US politics is OK so long as the person you are discussing it with isn't from the US

Yes, god forbid you take into account another point of view from your own. I especially find this funny because Treblaine was actually using facts to defend his position as well as making a valid point about the distinction between correlation vs. causation. He was actually making a reasonable argument and you dismiss him for being American. The comment is especially funny because, based on previous posts, I'm pretty sure Treblaine isn't even from the US.

First you lump in the entire western hemisphere with your own belligerant nation, then you are so politically insensitive as to imply the only possible attack more horrible than what happened to the US 9 years ago is precisely what the US did to someone else 65 years ago.

[Emphasis added]

LOL. As I said, I'm pretty sure Treblane is from the UK. Perhaps you should make sure you have all the facts before making wild assumptions about people.

Besides, how the fuck does saying that a nuclear attack would be worse then 9/11 have anything to do with Hiroshima and Nagasaki? It would be worse. It's not like he said it would be worse then Hiroshima or Nagasaki or that a nuclear attack now would be the worst thing ever. That I can see you taking offense at, but saying that a nuclear attack (on a major population center) would be worse then 9/11 is just a fact.

 

[Jumplion]

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was a one-time occurrence.

Of course, a one-occurrence is all it takes for something to be royally butt-fucked, but I'm finding it hard to go "OMG, TSA sucks ass at their job!" or something like that when it's just one person out of several hundred thousand people being screened every day.

But again, I get the point here.

 

[ResonanceSD]

didn't that guy off mythbusters take 2 blades through the body scanner?

 

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OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMOGMOGMOGMOMGOM!!!!11111!!1one1!!!!eleven!!11

YOU DID NOT JUST BRING 251ml OF ORANGE JUICE ON BOARD.

and yet...

 

[ninjajoeman]

anyone ever think of the number of terrorist the TSA caught? Is it a good thing or a bad thing? Well lets just say about a half a year ago. A certain terrorist, who made a failed bomb attempt, was put on the no fly list and managed to stroll right into a plane. The CIA thankfully got him right before the plane took off.

 

[Treblaine]

Thanks for reminding me why I hate discussing US politics, Treblaine.

(And yes, I realise what the response [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb0oP2Jcl-M&l#t=0m35s] and the ensuring conversation to this will probably be).

Discussing US politics is OK so long as the person you are discussing it with isn't from the US

Yes, in such case "we" as WESTERNERS have lost [...]
Though short of a nuclear bomb I can't think of any terrorist attack more horrible than 9/11.

First you lump in the entire western hemisphere with your own belligerant nation, then you are so politically insensitive as to imply the only possible attack more horrible than what happened to the US 9 years ago is precisely what the US did to someone else 65 years ago.

Huh? What? You're clearly going utterly off topic for no reason. Unless your reasons are due to an anti-American prejudice that encourages you to slander the "great satan".

BTW, even the BBC refer to the UK, USA, Europe etc collectively as "the west" and said people "westerners" so get of your high horse and start living in the real world. I did put "we" in quotes to indicate it is not entirely a label of my choosing, but it IS a convention and the likes of Osama has referred to "the west" and listed them as targets of his wider campaign of destruction and death.

Thanks for reminding me why I hate discussing US politics, Treblaine.

(And yes, I realise what the response [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb0oP2Jcl-M&l#t=0m35s] and the ensuring conversation to this will probably be).

If you're going to reply to me, then reply to me. Don't just put out a response addressed to me like some short open letter. You know such a response won't show up in my inbox, was it an attempt to get the last word without me having any say on it?

Look, sorry I so brutally cut down every one of your logical fallacies and snide comments but that is what you get for posting logical fallacies and snide comments about important issues. No need for you to get all passive-aggressive about it.

Maybe you'd enjoy discussing US politics a bit more if you depended more on actual facts and balanced perspective?

 

[skywalkerlion]

My dad once sneaked a zipo lighter into the white house on a tour. Pretty fun times XD

 

[Sewblon]

Airport security sucks, film at eleven. At eleven thirty, bears are defecating in the woods.

 

[Tears of Blood]

I find it worrying enough that people can wander around with loaded handguns, let alone take them on planes. Every part of this story is silly.

Gun control is not the answer. Look it up.

 

[Underground Man]

My neighbor made it through airport security with a bunch of bullets he had forgotten about in his backpack. Just one of the many reasons the TSA can go to hell. They're just a bunch of minimum-wage, under-qualified government riffraff and perverts. I don't for one second buy that they exist for the "security" of Americans.

Obama just wants to hedge his bets so that he doesn't look soft on terror. Whether there is a terrorist attack or not, he comes out looking rosy. I wouldn't be surprised if this is an attempt to see just how far the government can go before people complain -- which apparently is as far as gate rape.

I'd like to see the president go through airport security and see how he likes it.

 

[manaman]

This reminds me of when I walked through security a couple of years ago with two 15 round magazines loaded with 9mn JHP +P rounds. Still not a gun, but they made me put my toothpaste, shampoo, and body wash into a plastic baggy before they would let me through security, then failed to notice both of the magazines sitting in the same pocket of my bag.

 

[Shimrra]

The issue with that is when people have a .40 cal and over penetrating into the shell of the plane, or the kid sitting behind the terrorist

:|

A bullet going through the hull of a plane will do nothing. A wall of the plane won't fly off the side, there won't be an explosion, nadda.

still causes depresurization. and it going through someone else before that can be more of an issue.

 

[Shimrra]

If everyone on the plane had a loaded weapon no terrorist attacks could ever take place successfully.

"ALLAH AKB---*BLAM*"

The issue with that is when people have a .40 cal and over penetrating into the shell of the plane, or the kid sitting behind the terrorist

Hmmm...complete death of everyone on board or just a risk that requires an oxygen mask.


Hmmmmm.....

knife fights are WAY cooler

 

[okogamashii]

Well, anyone who claims the TSA is racist is officially full of shit. An Iranian-American gets through with a gun, no problem. If they were as racist as everyone says, he would have been strip searched at the door.

Incorrect. The TSA are racist, but are loath to accost people of Middle-Eastern descent for fear of getting sued for profiling and/or discrimination. God forbid they offend someone, right?

 

[okogamashii]

and yet they have to molest young children and women...

FUCK the TSA. Those lazy good for nothing bastards need to go straigth to hell.

Be realistic. Getting pat down is far from being molested. I've been through an airport twice since these new measures got forced in and neither time have I been in any way mistreated, nor did I see a scene indicating anyone else was.

Fake outrage is just that-fake. Grow up already.

Hardly. How the fuck is strip-searching a five year old, in line with everyone else, okay? How do they know that person is on the up-and-up, and not say, a pedophile? And quite frankly, if they did that to my kid, I would absolutely think it was just as bad as molestation. That's a disgusting violation of our basic rights, and what's worse is that it isn't even worth it. They fail 70% of the time, so they've stripped you/groped you for almost nothing.

 

[Delusibeta]

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1) South America? It's in the western hemisphere, right?
2) I called it.

 

[justcallmeslow]

I find it worrying enough that people can wander around with loaded handguns, let alone take them on planes. Every part of this story is silly.

Gun control is not the answer. Look it up.

That's very vague. Please enlighten me. Any particular source? Do you have a precise study I an google? Anything like that would be interesting.

 

[Tears of Blood]

Gun control is not the answer. Look it up.

That's very vague. Please enlighten me. Any particular source? Do you have a precise study I an google? Anything like that would be interesting.[/quote]

You can simply Google gun control and find statistics on your own. They're not hard to find. I've found the research once for a project when I was in school, took me less than an hour, probably, though I really don't need to do it again.

Besides, I know you won't really change your mind on it, no matter what I say or show you, because you are a human being, just like me. All I can say is that I've looked at the statistics, and nearly every time we tighten gun control laws, more people die of violent crime.

 

[Pyode]

1) South America? It's in the western hemisphere, right?

LOL. The term "westerner" has nothing to do with the hemispheres. The term "westerner" comes from before the Americas where even colonized. People from Asia and the Middle East (China, India, the Persian Gulf etc) where "from the east" and therefore everyone else was considered "from the west" i.e. "westerners". This terminology carried over when the Americas where colonized. As for whether or not South America counts in that, I don't know. It doesn't matter though because Treblane never said anything about South America.

Of course, this entire argument is completely off topic and I don't even understand the point you are trying to make.

2) I called it.

Yes, you did predict that Treblane would call you out on your BS. I fail to see how this works in your favor.