Man Forgot Loaded Handgun in His Carry-On, TSA Forgot To Notice

[Macrobstar]

I wish they would make some sort of personal aerial transport it would be so much easier

 

[Dana22]

I thought its a friggin USA. If I were on that same flight with that guy, I would sue that airline for millions. And TSA as well.

You know, despite what some people seem to believe, you can only sue for actual damages in the US. Since you wouldn't have been damaged by the gun having been there since it wasn't used, you would have nothing to sue for.

I know US law varies from state to state, but quick googling and im back with this:

941.30(1)
(1) First-degree recklessly endangering safety. Whoever recklessly endangers another's safety under circumstances which show utter disregard for human life is guilty of a Class F felony.

or

(E) Whoever violates division (C) of this section is guilty of endangering airport operations, a misdemeanor of the second degree. If the violation creates a risk of physical harm to any person, endangering airport operations is a felony of the fifth degree. If the violation creates a substantial risk of physical harm to any person, endangering airport operations is a felony of the fourth degree. In addition to any other penalty or sanction imposed for the violation, the hunting license or permit of a person who violates division (C) of this section while hunting shall be suspended or revoked pursuant to section 1533.68 of the Revised Code.

The US code of law is not that stupid to not cover things like endangering human lives on great scale and safety of airplane/airport.

 

[ZephrC]

I thought its a friggin USA. If I were on that same flight with that guy, I would sue that airline for millions. And TSA as well.

You know, despite what some people seem to believe, you can only sue for actual damages in the US. Since you wouldn't have been damaged by the gun having been there since it wasn't used, you would have nothing to sue for.

I know US law varies from state to state, but quick googling and im back with this:

941.30(1)
(1) First-degree recklessly endangering safety. Whoever recklessly endangers another's safety under circumstances which show utter disregard for human life is guilty of a Class F felony.

or

(E) Whoever violates division (C) of this section is guilty of endangering airport operations, a misdemeanor of the second degree. If the violation creates a risk of physical harm to any person, endangering airport operations is a felony of the fifth degree. If the violation creates a substantial risk of physical harm to any person, endangering airport operations is a felony of the fourth degree. In addition to any other penalty or sanction imposed for the violation, the hunting license or permit of a person who violates division (C) of this section while hunting shall be suspended or revoked pursuant to section 1533.68 of the Revised Code.

The US code of law is not that stupid to not cover things like endangering human lives on great scale and safety of airplane/airport.

You don't get to sue someone for breaking the law. That's what criminal courts are for, not civil courts.

 

[Dana22]

I thought its a friggin USA. If I were on that same flight with that guy, I would sue that airline for millions. And TSA as well.

You know, despite what some people seem to believe, you can only sue for actual damages in the US. Since you wouldn't have been damaged by the gun having been there since it wasn't used, you would have nothing to sue for.

I know US law varies from state to state, but quick googling and im back with this:

941.30(1)
(1) First-degree recklessly endangering safety. Whoever recklessly endangers another's safety under circumstances which show utter disregard for human life is guilty of a Class F felony.

or

(E) Whoever violates division (C) of this section is guilty of endangering airport operations, a misdemeanor of the second degree. If the violation creates a risk of physical harm to any person, endangering airport operations is a felony of the fifth degree. If the violation creates a substantial risk of physical harm to any person, endangering airport operations is a felony of the fourth degree. In addition to any other penalty or sanction imposed for the violation, the hunting license or permit of a person who violates division (C) of this section while hunting shall be suspended or revoked pursuant to section 1533.68 of the Revised Code.

The US code of law is not that stupid to not cover things like endangering human lives on great scale and safety of airplane/airport.

You don't get to sue someone for breaking the law. That's what criminal courts are for, not civil courts.

Fine, seems like I dont know much about law at all.

What about civil lawsuit "v. United States", If no one was brought to justice for breaking the law ?

or nvm...

 

[ZephrC]

I thought its a friggin USA. If I were on that same flight with that guy, I would sue that airline for millions. And TSA as well.

You know, despite what some people seem to believe, you can only sue for actual damages in the US. Since you wouldn't have been damaged by the gun having been there since it wasn't used, you would have nothing to sue for.

I know US law varies from state to state, but quick googling and im back with this:

941.30(1)
(1) First-degree recklessly endangering safety. Whoever recklessly endangers another's safety under circumstances which show utter disregard for human life is guilty of a Class F felony.

or

(E) Whoever violates division (C) of this section is guilty of endangering airport operations, a misdemeanor of the second degree. If the violation creates a risk of physical harm to any person, endangering airport operations is a felony of the fifth degree. If the violation creates a substantial risk of physical harm to any person, endangering airport operations is a felony of the fourth degree. In addition to any other penalty or sanction imposed for the violation, the hunting license or permit of a person who violates division (C) of this section while hunting shall be suspended or revoked pursuant to section 1533.68 of the Revised Code.

The US code of law is not that stupid to not cover things like endangering human lives on great scale and safety of airplane/airport.

You don't get to sue someone for breaking the law. That's what criminal courts are for, not civil courts.

Fine, seems like I dont know much about law at all.

What about civil lawsuit "v. United States", If no one was brought to justice for breaking the law ?

or nvm...

Well, that goes back to civil lawsuits only working if you suffered some form of damages.

 

[justcallmeslow]

I find it worrying enough that people can wander around with loaded handguns, let alone take them on planes. Every part of this story is silly.

The planes part is the silly bit but why is it worrying that people can carry a weapon on their person? What fundamentally distinguishes the weapon a peace officer carries and the one a private citizen carries? Do you worry that somehow the private citizen is less adept at the use of the weapon? That they are somehow less responsible?

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what worries me. making guns more easily available makes them open to those who would misuse them, both intentionally and accidentally.

I'd like as few police officers to have guns as possible too. Of course some are needed when murder is justified to save more lives, but that's rarely required.

 

[justcallmeslow]

I find it worrying enough that people can wander around with loaded handguns, let alone take them on planes. Every part of this story is silly.

Yeah, but unlike you, if I end up in an alley for some reason I'm not getting mugged.

OT: This is why I don't support these restricting laws. TSA can't even do jack shit with them anyway.

Unless the other guy has a (bigger?) gun too. Then you could end up mugged or someone will end up dead. I'd say it's more likely to be you than the career criminal.

I'd prefer to hand over my stuff and claim on the insurance. Though being unarmed hasn't prevented me escaping two attempted muggings anyway...

 

[Jamieson 90]

So really what this shows is that we don't need more security measures, we don't need more invasive tecnology. What we need is for the security staff to be trained properly or that when they are recruited they are suitable for the job.

I mean seriously I go to the airport and my body is scanned and then I hear they miss a GUN!! with an Xray!! I mean seriously how can you miss a gun???

 

[Monshroud]

So I have to take off my shoes, get hit with radiation or get sexually assulted, and these idiots don't see a handgun on a security scanner.

EPIC FAIL!

Granted seeing some of the people who are working at the TSA, they don't exactly seem to be the cream of the crop..

 

[mxfox408]

I got a good idea that will make everyone happy. Ever hear of the term birdd of a feather flock together? All the people who dont wish to be scanned or pat down can have thier own flight together and those that dont mind will fly together that way if you dont want to be scanned you all can take the same flight so everyone is happy and everyone wins, how about that?

 

[Wintermoot]

so a bottle-o-coke is illigeal but a gun is legal? lolwut?

 

[samsonguy920]

Now if he had the gun in his crotch, they would have obviously found it right off.

congratulations osama, you beat the USA:

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Well put. The TSA counts in every a victory for them and a loss for us. Both organizations need to be dissolved and disintegrated and removed from the planet.

 

[archvile93]

I find it worrying enough that people can wander around with loaded handguns, let alone take them on planes. Every part of this story is silly.

Yeah, but unlike you, if I end up in an alley for some reason I'm not getting mugged.

OT: This is why I don't support these restricting laws. TSA can't even do jack shit with them anyway.

yeh ur gonna make a sudden move to pull out ur gun... while hes holding a gun to you?

Thing is, he's not always going to have a gun, as I've said many times. And at any rates, let me ask you this, if were going to mug someone, would you rather do it in the states where there's a decent chance the mugee will be armed, or England and other ban gun countries where it's extremely unlikely they'll be armed? And don't tell me you couldn't be able to buy a gun there, it's not that hard if you're willing to do it illegally, and considering you're a criminal in this scenerio I doubt that would concern you.

 

[Melancholy_Ocelot]

I can totally empathize with this guy

I made it through to Boston with a layover in Chicago before I realized that I didn't claim my pocket knife (seen above).

 

[mr_rubino]

They'd have found it if it was in his underwear.

 

[Macrobstar]

I find it worrying enough that people can wander around with loaded handguns, let alone take them on planes. Every part of this story is silly.

Yeah, but unlike you, if I end up in an alley for some reason I'm not getting mugged.

OT: This is why I don't support these restricting laws. TSA can't even do jack shit with them anyway.

yeh ur gonna make a sudden move to pull out ur gun... while hes holding a gun to you?

Thing is, he's not always going to have a gun, as I've said many times. And at any rates, let me ask you this, if were going to mug someone, would you rather do it in the states where there's a decent chance the mugee will be armed, or England and other ban gun countries where it's extremely unlikely they'll be armed? And don't tell me you couldn't be able to buy a gun there, it's not that hard if you're willing to do it illegally, and considering you're a criminal in this scenerio I doubt that would concern you.

good point, still don't think any killing device should be legal, just use a taser or mace

 

[mr_rubino]

TSA, you win.
People yelled at you, saying all you do was unnecessary crap that violated our rights, but you at least had a reasonble defense.
"We go to these lenghts to protect you form harm"
And for a minute, I believed you.
But now I know for certain you were just fucking with us. You just wanted to grope people.
Successful troll succeeded.

Y'see, that was your problem right there. As a long-time troll-wrangler, I know that an important step is to not to be fooled by the sycophantic proclamations of their sock-puppets and meat-puppets. And the TSA has a lot of each of those.

 

[yundex]

So basically, TSA is still molesting kids, and some people think gunz r bad because they can kill someone. As if criminals would have a hard time getting guns if they were illegal, I seriously hate the logic those anti gun freaks use.

 

[Pyode]

America is one of the easiest places to get guns legally in the developed world. It has also one of the highest murder rates in the developed world. There is a connection there.

No, there is a correlation there. There is a huge difference between correlation and causation. There is no evidence that proves making guns illegal reduces violent crime. There is some correlative evidence that supports it, but there is also correlative evidence that doesn't.

For example, guns where banned in Washington D.C. and the same exact year that they where banned, violent crime rose and then when the law was repealed crime rates dropped again.

 

[GonzoGamer]

I find it worrying enough that people can wander around with loaded handguns, let alone take them on planes. Every part of this story is silly.

Ever been to Texas? Youcan actually get away with shooting someone there if you can prove in court that they "needed a shootin'."
I was there once. It is a bit scary. I don't even have anything against guns; I would be just as wary of a place where everybody walks around with hammers, knives, or other tools around on their person or on racks in their trucks.

I used to use the same bag for camping and air-travel and one time I made it through JFK (NYC) & Hethrow (London) with a pretty big camping knife.

I lived in Texas all my life and I can pretty much say only one thing for certain about guns. Pulling a gun on someone in Texas is practically, you probably won't live to regret like the robbers in this story.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/7347027.html

Summary of story: Robbers shot the owner, 52-year-old Ramon Castillo, in the abdomen, shoulder and legs, leaving him in critical condition Sunday. Castillo shot and killed the three armed robbers, who had tied up his wife of 30 years.

No doubt.
Don't get me wrong. There are plenty of guys in NYC with arsenals of their own. I've seen some serious hardware in my lifetime here. Difference is, it's not all out in the open for everyone to see.