They sure do.Megacherv said:
Sadly, fondling people is their #1 priority
(and crashing bad parties)
Man Forgot Loaded Handgun in His Carry-On, TSA Forgot To Notice
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Sadly, fondling people is their #1 priority
(and crashing bad parties)
i dont know if youre aware of the fact im scottish, your statement no longer applies *downs bottle of whiskey, then smashes end on a table* not so tough now are you? =PCannibalRobots said:Never bring a whiskey bottle to a gunfight.shootthebandit said:this doesnt surprise me at all a) its in america b) it in texas
you crazy yanks and your guns, youre all too lazy for a bit of melee
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this has probably been said, and I decare myself Ninja'd. but seriously this.
this has probably been said, and I decare myself Ninja'd. but seriously this.
No that is Correlation. Correlations by themselves are meaningless, you are implying cause (mainly through weasel insinuation). Stephen Jay Gould called the invalid assumption that correlation implies cause as "probably among the two or three most serious and common errors of human reasoning" [http://www.amazon.com/dp/0393314251?tag=freethinkers&link_code=as3&creativeASIN=0393314251&creative=373489&camp=211189]Delusibeta said:
you said: "It has also one of the highest"
More blatant weasel words, how about you say where the US actually is in murder rates relative to other countries?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Out of 130+ countries in the world USA is ranked 45 in murder-rate. at a rate of 5.0 per 100'000
It should be noted that the murder-rate for North America as a whole (including Mexico and Canada) is 6.5 per 100'000 and the murder rate for all of Europe is 5.4 per 100'000. Yeah, so any random place in Europe verses any random place in USA, you're more likely to be murdered in Europe.
Oh the price of freedom may weigh heavy... not as heavy as the burden of tyranny.
But you act as if civilian gun ownership is purely a pragmatic issue of public health, when you MUST realise that it is an issue of freedom and civil liberties. The government does not by definition have a monopoly on the legal use of lethal force, when someone is trying to kill you - or worse - and you'll wish the law would have allowed you a gun.
"in the developed world"
Isn't that a bit arbitrary and condescending? Where do you draw the line, do the murder rates in russia not count I suppose because it isn't developed enough? How callous. I think you mean America is the easiest place to LEGALLY obtain a firearm, there are many many countries where it is far easier to obtain a gun if the law is no consideration. As it is for criminals.
It is not "more developed" for a country restrict the right of their people to a greater and more oppressive extent.
But let's consider it the other way around, that perhaps the LEGAL CIVILIAN gun access is so high BECAUSE OF the high crime and murder rate. I mean the argument I frequently hear against gun ownership in the UK is our crime rate is so low any civilian would be so unlikely to need a gun for self-defence. But the murder rate in the UK is not zero.
Thanks for reminding me why I hate discussing US politics, Treblaine.
(And yes, I realise what the response [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb0oP2Jcl-M&l#t=0m35s] and the ensuring conversation to this will probably be).
(And yes, I realise what the response [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb0oP2Jcl-M&l#t=0m35s] and the ensuring conversation to this will probably be).
Yes, in such case "we" as westerners have lost, but this is not a victory for Osama. Osama doesn't give a fuck about balls, he just want another crusade and a "glorious war". He HAD Afghanistan, it was his pad, he could do whatever he liked but he couldn't do what he REALLY wanted: kill the "unbelievers".rembrandtqeinstein said:
We went to Afghanistan in the 80's spoiling for a fight with the Soviets, 9/11 was I think a deliberate provocation FOR a western coalition invasion of Afghanistan being his ultimate intention. Then he'd fight to the death or be "victorious" (them give up looking for him). Why couldn't he have just retired and written some memoirs.
Sorry but if you want to REALLY piss Osama off, leave him and his Taliban in Afghanistan and just endlessly drop bombs on him for the next 10 years. Because I think the lower sophistication of terrorist attacks - and subsequent failure rate - is all the efforts have been focused on this holy war killing western soldiers and aid personnel serves the same purpose as suicide attacks on America.
BUT, if we'd left Osama in Afghanistan post-9/11 he'd probably have tried something even more horrible to provoke an invasion, and without occupation he would have the means to do it too. Though short of a nuclear bomb I can't think of any terrorist attack more horrible than 9/11. I don't think the TSA or anyone could have stopped that if all of al-qaeda's resources were committed to attacking Mainland USA.
So a guy makes it through with a loaded gun. Yet when I went to Florida on holiday, I got stopped by the TSA people for having my watch on, which made the X-ray scanners beep. Then when I took it off, it beeped again because I had metal on my belt buckle. Then it beeped a third time because I had some quarters in my pocket that I'd forgotten about. By this point the TSA people were glaring at me and saying if it beeped a fourth time they'd have to take me into custody and do a full body search. My dad was getting really pissed off at me (fair enough, I'd forgotten about the metal on me, but even so, it wasn't my fault, considering the Manchester airport security didn't beep when I walked through with money and a belt buckle...).
Fortunately it didn't beep again, though I was pretty worried (my jeans have metal buttons, you see). And you know what the kicker was? My watch went into their scanner and never came out again. The TSA stole my watch. There's probably an Orlando security guard wearing my watch right now and laughing his head off. And touching his balls, too.
Ah well, we can all agree the TSA are bastards. Thank Anoia the security in the UK aren't anywhere near as bad as them. No, we just get police and the government screwing us over instead...
Fortunately it didn't beep again, though I was pretty worried (my jeans have metal buttons, you see
). And you know what the kicker was? My watch went into their scanner and never came out again. The TSA stole my watch. There's probably an Orlando security guard wearing my watch right now and laughing his head off. And touching his balls, too.Ah well, we can all agree the TSA are bastards. Thank Anoia the security in the UK aren't anywhere near as bad as them. No, we just get police and the government screwing us over instead...
Wait... if the loaded gun was the only object in his carry-on, then what the hell was his carry on? The fucking holster?
Speaking of which, has anyone seen the hilarious Playmobil TSA Security [http://www.boingboing.net/images/x09/playmobil.jpg] set? I should get one for my nephew.
Speaking of which, has anyone seen the hilarious Playmobil TSA Security [http://www.boingboing.net/images/x09/playmobil.jpg] set? I should get one for my nephew.
I remember before 9/11 I was on a flight home from california, and I had this stick that i had found (i must have thought it was pretty awesome at the time). I asked one of the people in the flight crew if i could take it on board with me and they were totally fine with it. They let me put it in the overhead.
Now that it has apparently been long enough to start packing heat on airplanes again, i think i might try and find some more sweet california-sticks).
Now that it has apparently been long enough to start packing heat on airplanes again, i think i might try and find some more sweet california-sticks).
I love all of the TSA hate out there. People make mistakes, and, as usual, no one ever bothers to report the number of times a job is done well, only the times it goes wrong. I fly a lot, and I have no issues with the TSA. They've checked my 360 before and I get a patdown nearly every time because I wear cargo pants (fuck jeans, I can't put my book in a pocket then). That being said, security is security.
Do I think we really need them? No. But they gained their power from the fear and panic of 9/11 and now the same types of people who refused to get on a plane with an Arab for years ***** about how the TSA is racist and is wasting their time. Hooray for society's short-term memory!
Do I think we really need them? No. But they gained their power from the fear and panic of 9/11 and now the same types of people who refused to get on a plane with an Arab for years ***** about how the TSA is racist and is wasting their time. Hooray for society's short-term memory!
Wow. I went through that airport- twice- less than a month ago...
The Mexican authorities caught the can of soda in my carry-on, and the American ones failed to notice a gun?
I think maybe this makes a case that security doesn't need new methods at their disposal so much as to make proper use of the ones they have. And maybe to switch out security screeners more frequently so they don't get so bored and fatigued that they fail to do their jobs properly.
The Mexican authorities caught the can of soda in my carry-on, and the American ones failed to notice a gun?
I think maybe this makes a case that security doesn't need new methods at their disposal so much as to make proper use of the ones they have. And maybe to switch out security screeners more frequently so they don't get so bored and fatigued that they fail to do their jobs properly.
Even in England this is a problem. I am abroad right now and during my flight I realised that I had left a full length hunting knife I had been using for a wood carving project in the concealed pocket of my trench coat. Thing is that the trench coat went through an xray on it's own with nothing else in the tray. Although the hunter s. Thompson reference was damn funny it's the most worrying thing. When I fly back i will put it in the suitcase. Israeli security don't miss a thing.
Delusibeta said:
Discussing US politics is OK so long as the person you are discussing it with isn't from the US
First you lump in the entire western hemisphere with your own belligerant nation, then you are so politically insensitive as to imply the only possible attack more horrible than what happened to the US 9 years ago is precisely what the US did to someone else 65 years ago.Treblaine said: