Man Forgot Loaded Handgun in His Carry-On, TSA Forgot To Notice

Jackpot524

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Geez... They use guns and grenades for practice screenings! They should know what to look for... Unless they fall into that stupid category of people that think "Oh, no one will ever try to bring that stuff on a plane, it's too obvious..."

I'm just baffled...

It's times like this that I'm unfortunately glad I decided to make 'airline pilot' my secondary career choice.
 

onebignumbskull

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A few trips ago I had an overloaded hold bag, so reckoned I'd save weight by taking my metalwork toolkit in my carry-on. (For no logical reason they don't weigh your carry-on.) I realised I'd better put the sharpies in my hold bag, and the airport advised me to not have the hammer or pliers either, so that left a lot of little jewellery bits, some strips of metal for making bracelets, and the six-inch bit of railway line I use for an anvil.

Yes, they stopped me for the anvil. I'm like, say what? They said, you could hit someone over the head with that. Picture this... I'm taking over this plane, I've got a lump of iron and I'm not afraid to use it!
 

ThatLankyBastard

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Oh! So they consider my toothbrush too dangerous but a handgun is perfectly fine...

"Dear God! HE'S GOT A TOOTHBRUSH!!!"
 

rembrandtqeinstein

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congratulations osama, you beat the USA:

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Broken Orange

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This shows that this TSA crap is just theatrics. Gives the illusions of security. You are more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist. God bless America.
 

Jackpot524

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onebignumbskull said:
A few trips ago I had an overloaded hold bag, so reckoned I'd save weight by taking my metalwork toolkit in my carry-on. (For no logical reason they don't weigh your carry-on.) I realised I'd better put the sharpies in my hold bag, and the airport advised me to not have the hammer or pliers either, so that left a lot of little jewellery bits, some strips of metal for making bracelets, and the six-inch bit of railway line I use for an anvil.

Yes, they stopped me for the anvil. I'm like, say what? They said, you could hit someone over the head with that. Picture this... I'm taking over this plane, I've got a lump of iron and I'm not afraid to use it!
And...

I'd say security did it's job that time.
 

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justcallmeslow said:
I find it worrying enough that people can wander around with loaded handguns, let alone take them on planes. Every part of this story is silly.
Yeah, but unlike you, if I end up in an alley for some reason I'm not getting mugged.

OT: This is why I don't support these restricting laws. TSA can't even do jack shit with them anyway.
 

gigastar

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Now all that remains is to see how the TSA ramp up the security, how they will worm the way out of expaining this and who gets fired for it.
 

HigherTomorrow

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I don't get why everyone's focusing on the fact he had a loaded handgun. He's a businessman. That means money. Crooks like money, not bullets to the skull.
 

Z of the Na'vi

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Why would that man even report something like this? I'd just feel a bit shocked and then go on with my day.

Seems odd, really.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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I think this is appropriate:


Thinking about it, requiring 2-5 air marshals (depending on the size of the plane) put randomly in the plane in desguise would protect flights far better then any sensor that the TSA can make.
 

Manicotti

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Z of the Na said:
Why would that man even report something like this? I'd just feel a bit shocked and then go on with my day.

Seems odd, really.
Because then the responsible parties can either be fired or otherwise adjusted into competence. It's more of a civic duty thing, IMO.

On topic: The thing that worries me most about this is that it isn't an isolated incident. Did anyone catch this part?

A person briefed on the latest tests tells ABC News the failure rate approaches 70 percent at some major airports. Two weeks ago, TSA's new director said every test gun, bomb part or knife got past screeners at some airports.
As I said when I initially found the article: Fuck the TSA and fuck how it lets the terrorists win by scaring us into justifying what the TSA does as "necessary" despite its nigh-criminal incompetence.
 

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Not G. Ivingname said:
I think this is appropriate:


Thinking about it, requiring 2-5 air marshals (depending on the size of the plane) put randomly in the plane in desguise would protect flights far better then any sensor that the TSA can make.
How are they going to stop a suicide bomber hmmm?

Recently I "smuggled" a 5th of Tequila in my carry-on. Totally forgot about the whole "3oz" rule. Didn't even slow me down on my way through the checkpoints.
Now I'll have the Homeland Security folks at my door tomorrow. Yay visitors.
 

Therumancer

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My initial impression is to call "BS" on this.

I think the guy intentionally smuggled the weapon, which was not in plain sight, or had it passed to him at his destination specifically to mess with security and make a scene. Sort of like people at the casino where I worked deciding to plant false bombs so they could pretend to find them and then be "big heroes" for it, or just to try and make security look like a group of idiots, except in this case it appears he wasn't caught red handed doing it.

Simply put, if this did happen it's a sign that our security is not tight enough, probably due to all the complaints and the busy season. That or security is ironically treating Muslims with kid gloves stupidly enough. After all, this is all due to Muslim terrorists, but our domestic policies are such that singling Muslims out is wrong, so ironically with all the complaints I wouldn't be surprised if the group that should be being checked out the most intensely is being given a pass to "prove we aren't being discriminatory". It's possible that if this guy is a Muslim (and I'm guessing this is probably the case with a name like "Farid") his backround as a long time businessman might have convinced security to let him through unusually easy so they could point to him later and say "see we don't hassle all Muslims", except in this case it kind of backfired.

Still, just the fact that this made it into the media, and how idiotic it makes the system look, leads me to believe that it was set up intentionally. After all if *I* was in that position and got a gun through security accidently, the last thing I'd do is walk up and say "hey look, I got this gun through security".

If I was the guy in charge of this right now, I'd pull a "Judge Dredd", just because he admits to the crime doesn't mean it's not a crime. Time to invoke "The Patriot Act" bring him in for the most rigorous interrigation the law allows, in this country or an allied nation which is less picky (even if we're not supposed to do that) and get to the bottom of it. If it turns out that it's him trying to make a scene to undermine confidence in the system, we treat him like a terrorist, perhaps even going so far as to make it treason if he's a US citizen. If it's not, then he still brought a gun on a plane and we have a nice cell waiting for him for however many years in a regular prison it carries.

With a system this important, I think this guy did some damage by going public with it and speaking to the media. I believe strongly enough in this kind of security and the need for it at the moment that I think just letting this go is a bad move. To put it bluntly, if security fails, and someone points out a security failure which might encourage other people to exploit it, that's a problem.
 

Patrick Dare

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I'm glad to hear this at least wasn't blown out of proportion with him getting arrested, etc. as seems to always happen.
 

omicron1

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I'm more amused by the airport name.

Hey, everybody! Remember: Guns are O.K. with Bush!
 

Jedoro

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Jbird said:
"Let's see here: toothbrush, shaving cream, loaded handgun...wait a minute! Sir, what are you doing with shaving cream in your carry on? Don't you know how volatile the chemicals in this can are at high altitudes? Please walk with my associate here for a full-body scan and pat down."

Edit: "Oh, and don't forget your handgun, sir. Have a nice day."
Reminds me of South Park. "Toilet paper, toilet paper, toilet paper- now you kids be careful with this chewing gum, don't be sticking it under desks or anything!"

"Okay!"

"Let's see... toilet paper, toilet paper..."

OT: Frankly, I'd like it if people with state-issued carry permits could take their guns anywhere, instead of people making us get protection from the police who aren't required to give it.