Fuck. Guess it finally happened. Poor bastard.
But none of this even applies since it looks like regular officers responded.
Whether or not an actual SWAT team is involved varies, but the effect is the same. They shot him because they chose to take the situation entirely seriously, which ended up with a man paying the price for doing something entirely innocent.Addendum_Forthcoming said:What the fuck is wrong with these people? Hopefully everyone involved sees some gaol time. And why the hell did police just shoot an unarmed man in an anonymous tipoff? When someone says 'swatting' I assume that meansactually trained armed response teams in general? Bit of control might be needed.
This is depressingly common actually. You can make up all sorts of shit and get police to respond or just get someone's rights taken away based on hearsay.Apparently you shouldn't think or plan murdering someone personally, or hiring a hitman. Just anonymously inform on them to the police and make up a dangerous situation.
Good thing you're not a betting man.CannibalCorpses said:Well, if i was a betting man i would wager that the victim was a black man and thats why the SWAT team shot him dead![]()
That's the fucked up thing about it. You can't really combat it without making problems somewhere else. Your best option is racking up insane charges against people and putting a fuckton of effort into finding the callers.Xsjadoblayde said:This was only a matter of that there time you have. Is it time yet to discuss how to combat this?
Many ways to spoof numbers and that's provided they're taking the time to check at all. With the situation presented, you can take the time to react and potentially lose lives or you go out and hope for the best.Hawk of Battle said:How... does this happen? Like, the guy doing the phone call was claiming HE was the one with the gun, according to that video in the second link, and presumably gave the wrong address, that he got from the guy he was pissed off at. But he was calling from a completely different address right? Do they not check where the phone call is coming from and see something doesn't add up? Shouldn't they have gone to HIS address?
Considering we just had the Vegas cop get away with one of the worst shoots I've seen, I wouldn't count on it.So then some poor sod opens his door, gets shouted at by a bunch of cops leveling guns at him, is rightly confused and probably scared and then gets shot for doing basically nothing?
Just... what?! The level of incompetence and mishandling of this whole situation is baffling. Everyone involved needs to be investigated and probably receive jail time, the two COD morons, the officers, the whole lot. Fucking insane.
It very much is and that's probably what's going to happen. Don't be surprised if the guy gets life.BreakfastMan said:Jesus christ. How is SWATting not illegal now? They seriously should charge that ************ with murder or manslaughter, god damn.
This is also the same country where people want police to be the only ones with guns. This can only end so well.Addendum_Forthcoming said:Quizzically these are the same type of people that Trump wants to give AFVs to, right?
Because when it comes to using controlled explosions to send a metal slug out of a tube with directed force to rip through someone's body, there is no such thing as a non-lethal area. If you're in a situation where you have to shoot someone, everything has already gone to hell and you're at the point where ending a life is a viable/outright necessary option.Samtemdo8 said:What I don't understand is if the cops are going to fire at a suspect? Why don't they fire at a non lethal area?
If I'm reaching for a gun and you're taking shots at my leg, if you even manage to hit me, I'm still grabbing a firearm and probably going to be shooting at you with no care if you live or not. You dying would actually be my intention so your best option to stop this is aiming for my torso and firing until I'm no longer a threat.Like why can't this cop just shoot the suspect in the leg to cripple him so that they can at least arrest him while he's still alive.
When possible, yes. However if the suspect is endangering lives, that takes priority. The actual MO of SWAT is to ensure that everyone involved survives with preferably not a single shot fired unless absolutely necessary, hence the acronym Special Weapons And Tactics. Problem is that you're still dealing with armed suspects and some people don't listen to reason. Even worse is that you're beginning to get a major militarization of police that forgets the Tactics bit and are soldiers by any other name.I thought the whole point of law enforcement in our modern day is catch the criminal alive first and then judge them.
But none of this even applies since it looks like regular officers responded.
In the best circumstances, yes.But of course it would be better if they don't fire at all.