Mass Effect 3 Details Arrive Like Reapers

[Therumancer]

Interesting. The only point I'd make is that while it's good to see Bioware trying to adapt and learn from mistakes (points there), I think they are making at least one crucial mistake which could hurt them.

At it's core, a big part of the problem with Mass Effect 2 *WAS* the combat, simply put the core audience of RPG players didn't mind real-time combat, but when it got turned into a twitch/cover base third person shooter, as opposed to using stats.

A deeper game system is good, but I think in the end part of the issue is whether the quintessntial "lobster accountant" is going to be able to beat the game with minimal skill
at aiming.

Likewise, while the weapon slots idea is interesting, it does have me wondering if that's a good idea, since it seems kind of shooter-centric, for people who don't get why weapons access is part of the balancing process.

... and of course the most important issue, that of sweet, sweet, lewt. Will we have a decent range of equipment? Can we have our companions wear the armor we want them do? Or will we have to pay money if we wantto change their apperance again (horse armor rides again! this time without any statistical benefits).

These are my thoughts at any rate, we'll see what happens.

 

[AndyFromMonday]

So basically, your choices in ME2 will barely affect the actual outcome of the game. This is similar to the "blood mage" quest in Dragon Age 2 whereas you have the choice of either saving or turning in a blood mage. No matter the choice, the blood mage comes back and attempts to kill you.


If Bioware can pull this off, good. Unfortunately, after the disaster that was ME2 both plot and gameplay wise I'm skeptical.

 

[Yossarian1507]

About the Cerberus hunting you:

I don't buy the

Spoiler

'You blew up the base, now we'll kill you', or 'We studied Reaper tech, now we're indoctrinated'

explanations. I mean, yeah, it sounds like it could be it, but it's way too obvious, and in general when someone is hunting you 'without a given reason' it's usually a setup for a big reveal. So I think that TIM has some kind of different motive to kill Shepard. Let's just hope it will be interesting and well thought, and not some kind of 'it turns out, that... YOU are a Reaper, Shepard' bullshit.

On the game itself:

While I enjoyed both Mass Effect games, I really hope Bioware will seriously work on the 'choices', so they won't be meaningless this time. They have potential (Rakhni, reformed Geth heretics, Destiny's Ascension) to make some of those old choices meaningful. If they'll blew it again, I predict a massive flamestorm at Bioware, and I might even join them (the flaming fanboys obviously) in this case.

 

[DSK-]

Must. Not. Read. Spoilers. Must. Be. Surprised. Must. Fight. Urge.

-peeks-

I saw

Spoiler

"Shepard on trial"

and had to stop. I really don't want to know anything before I play it.

Must. Not. Get. Hyped. In. Case. Game. Sucks. Donkeys.

...

Oh fuck it.

Whoooooooo! Wrex and Liara are back! Well... possibly.

And now I'm going to have to determinedly stick my fingers in my ears and hum loudly for the rest of the year. Oh joy.

I'll be plugging my ears and shouting 'boo' right along with ya.

EDIT

It's nice we're getting some of the customization back we lost in the second game... if this is to be believed.

And I hope they work on the 'ammo' and health system. The thermal clips and Halo 2 health regen were really the only changes I can say honestly pissed me off.

Read below (it isn't a massive spoiler but just in case...)

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The whole 'trial' thing is mentioned briefly in the "Arrival" DLC for ME2, in case you haven't played it

 

[goliath6711]

Everyone screaming about this character coming back and this character not coming back, remember this: this story also has to take into account that all but one of the main characters (Liara) could be dead.

 

[antigodoflife]

Oh good they fixed everything that made Mass Effect 2 such an atrocity, although whether or not the stories improved to the quality of ME1 and I get the freedom of ME1, if not more is another story. At least I know the middle of the game is going to suck, mineral collection! (one way or another.)

All I know is that I hate this series to it's core... and I'll be buying ME3 on release!

 

[Undead Dragon King]

To all those like me who are worried that our favorite Quarian won't be around in ME3, there's no cause for worry. BioWare has plumbed so much data from ME2 that it's almost mind-numbing. If they got data how many lines of cutscene conversation got skipped, you can be sure that they know which characters got romanced the most. And we all know who did! They know that if they pull the rug out from the legions of Talimancers, then they'll be in for a PR shitstorm. Personally, I would probably never forgive BioWare if she did not appear or got killed off.

I mean, every single team member who could possibly survive ME1 is listed except her. Of course she'll be included.

 

[daftalchemist]

All I want to know is how long I have to play the game before Garrus beats Kaiden's pansy ass for my love!

 

[Agent Larkin]

James Sanders

If there is a god that will be Sean Bean's character.

 

[subtlefuge]

I want Miranda, Mordin, and Wrex back. Miranda mostly because I gained respect for her after her kickass ending arc. Also, I didn't care a bit about Ashley ever, so she was my romance option.

Mordin and Wrex are just awesome for entirely different reasons.

 

[subtlefuge]

Eh, I don't buy the Illusive Man bit.

There is no good reason for him to want to kill you

This pisses me off oh so much.

A more logical approach would be a Magneto/X relationship where he opposes you, but at least realizes that you're helping out his cause. I mean besides the countless resources he spent, he views you as a symbol or icon for the best of humanity.

That's about enough ranting, but I fear that Bioware might be losing its touch.

 

[Devias-]

The manipulative Illusive Man of Mass Effect 2 will also return, but his opinion of Shepard has changed. Cerberus, the Illusive Man's "humanity first" organization, is trying to kill Shepard in Mass Effect 3 for an unknown reason.

I'll tell you the reason. Its because Cerberus is a fucking backwards terrorist organization that completely fucks up everything it tries to do. I have yet to see any plan of their that was a success. The only "success" they had was re-building you, and even then it ended with the entire station and all the people dead.

I hope that I can personally march up to him, and put a bullet into his god damn face. Just because you have a sweet voice, doesn't mean you should get a pass for stupidity. Didn't work with your dad in Fallout 3, won't work with The Illusive Man.

And the trial is stupid. Your a Spectre, you are above the god damn law. You should be on trial with the council, not the Alliance. Your Alliance membership ended when you were dead for 2 years. Or at least I'd assume that, since it would be logical. Although I don't mind it that much, since the Council are a bunch of god damn idiots and hopefully the Alliance will have some damn brain cells. At least they're putting you on trial. If it was the council they would probably just send another Spectre after you, with the only evidence of you being "rouge" is some voice clip from a random Quarian.

And the Alliance will probably put you on trial for working with Cerberus, and the game will probably not let you properly defend yourself, or not even let you defend yourself. Whenever you tried to do that in ME2 Shepard would end up saying that he's working for Cerberus, even though I picked the option that said "I am NOT working for Cerberus".

Good god I am really negative right now for some reason. But fuck it, thats how I feel inside.

Bringing back weapon mods make me happy though. And hopefully the gameplay will be less boring, and the Soldier/Adept/Engineer/Sentinel classes will actually be fun to play.

You lose your Spectre status after you 'die' at the beginning of Mass Effect 2. You may or may not be reinstated, depending on if you saved the Citadel and if you spoke to Anderson. Even then, he reminds you that it's just a formality. You don't even get any benefits.

 

[Devias-]

Spoiler: Big honkin' spoilers for Mass Effect 2

Cerberus, the Illusive Man's "humanity first" organization, is trying to kill Shepard in Mass Effect 3 for an unknown reason.

I can think of two very good reasons. If you blew the Collectors' Base at the end, then they're pissed off you wrecked the loot. And if you didn't, well, hello Reaper-Indoctrinated terrorist group!

Folks not wanting ME2 spoiled shouldn't click the above. Seriously.

To make this post less bland for the unspoiled, let me say that I can't wait until "Holiday 2011".

-- Steve

That, or Illusive man saw no need for Shepard afterwords.

And let me guess...
The trial is because "Oh Em Geee, Shepard worked part time with Cerberus, so even though you saved us all, we're ungrateful pr***s so we're gonna send you to jail" or something huh?

I am glad they are bringing back the weapon mods though.

And that JAmes Sanders guy? I'm betting heavily it was the guy in the clocktower during the trailer.

Gimme your money!!

Anyway, excited.

 

[Irridium]

You lose your Spectre status after you 'die' at the beginning of Mass Effect 2. You may or may not be reinstated, depending on if you saved the Citadel and if you spoke to Anderson. Even then, he reminds you that it's just a formality. You don't even get any benefits.

So... they make you a Spectre, but don't make you a Spectre?

What?

 

[Daftmau5]

What about Tali? RAGE!!!!!

Seriously though, I can't wait. I just hope BioWare takes their sweet time with it. Not to be a Negative Nancy, but they can easily fuck this up. I don't care if they delay the damn thing 20 times over, I want the last game in the ME series to be be the best freakin game BioWare made. Neigh! The best game..... in the world....

 

[Android2137]

Eh, I don't buy the Illusive Man bit.

There is no good reason for him to want to kill you

This pisses me off oh so much.

A more logical approach would be a Magneto/X relationship where he opposes you, but at least realizes that you're helping out his cause. I mean besides the countless resources he spent, he views you as a symbol or icon for the best of humanity.

That's about enough ranting, but I fear that Bioware might be losing its touch.

Wait, I got a little confused. Are you pissed off at my reasoning or at Bioware?

If it's Bioware, like the OP said, all this info should be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[Devias-]

You lose your Spectre status after you 'die' at the beginning of Mass Effect 2. You may or may not be reinstated, depending on if you saved the Citadel and if you spoke to Anderson. Even then, he reminds you that it's just a formality. You don't even get any benefits.

So... they make you a Spectre, but don't make you a Spectre?

What?

I don't understand it either. I suppose the Council started to disregard you after your 'death' and rumors of your cooperation with Cerberus. Possibly also becoming a thorn in their side by incessantly speaking of 'reapers'. They cannot afford to let someone that unpredictable run around with Spectre benefits. Still, they cannot shun the hero that saved the Citadel unquestionably. I know that if you're granted the Spectre status, it changes the dialogue during one quest. The one where you expose the volus who accuses a Quarian of stealing his valuables. Nothing else other than that though.

 

[Irridium]

You lose your Spectre status after you 'die' at the beginning of Mass Effect 2. You may or may not be reinstated, depending on if you saved the Citadel and if you spoke to Anderson. Even then, he reminds you that it's just a formality. You don't even get any benefits.

So... they make you a Spectre, but don't make you a Spectre?

What?

I don't understand it either. I suppose the Council started to disregard you after your 'death' and your rumored cooperation with Cerberus. Possibly also becoming a thorn in their side incessantly speaking of 'reapers'. They cannot afford to let someone that unstable run around with Spectre benefits. Still, they cannot shun the hero that saved the Citadel unquestionably. I know that if you're granted the Spectre status, it changes the dialogue during one quest. The one where you exposed the volus who accused a Quarian of stealing his valuables. Nothing else other than that though.

But you could use it in Thane's loyalty mission, when your interrogating that guy. He threatens to sue, you go "I'm a Spectre, *****.", and he gets all sad. Or something like that.

In the Shadow Broker DLC it also plays a small role.

 

[Daftmau5]

You lose your Spectre status after you 'die' at the beginning of Mass Effect 2. You may or may not be reinstated, depending on if you saved the Citadel and if you spoke to Anderson. Even then, he reminds you that it's just a formality. You don't even get any benefits.

So... they make you a Spectre, but don't make you a Spectre?

What?

It was meant to be a public thing, if my memory is correct. Reinstate the savior of the galaxy as Spectre, and people will ease off your case a bit more for having *some* common sense (because they know that you suck). It was meant as a sign of good will (and nothing more) in the form of making you a Spectre again. Just a simple masquerade, but a nice gesture, nonetheless (from their point of view, anyway).

It's all politics, I tell ya.

 

[JakBandit2208]

For the people who are confused as to why Shepard is on trial at the beginning of Mass Effect 3, play The Arrival DLC and you'll see why he's on trial.