Mass Effect 3 Details Arrive Like Reapers

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Android2137 said:
Eh, I don't buy the Illusive Man bit.

There is no good reason for him to want to kill you
This pisses me off oh so much.

A more logical approach would be a Magneto/X relationship where he opposes you, but at least realizes that you're helping out his cause. I mean besides the countless resources he spent, he views you as a symbol or icon for the best of humanity.

That's about enough ranting, but I fear that Bioware might be losing its touch.
 

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Irridium said:
Tom Goldman said:
The manipulative Illusive Man of Mass Effect 2 will also return, but his opinion of Shepard has changed. Cerberus, the Illusive Man's "humanity first" organization, is trying to kill Shepard in Mass Effect 3 for an unknown reason.
I'll tell you the reason. Its because Cerberus is a fucking backwards terrorist organization that completely fucks up everything it tries to do. I have yet to see any plan of their that was a success. The only "success" they had was re-building you, and even then it ended with the entire station and all the people dead.

I hope that I can personally march up to him, and put a bullet into his god damn face. Just because you have a sweet voice, doesn't mean you should get a pass for stupidity. Didn't work with your dad in Fallout 3, won't work with The Illusive Man.

And the trial is stupid. Your a Spectre, you are above the god damn law. You should be on trial with the council, not the Alliance. Your Alliance membership ended when you were dead for 2 years. Or at least I'd assume that, since it would be logical. Although I don't mind it that much, since the Council are a bunch of god damn idiots and hopefully the Alliance will have some damn brain cells. At least they're putting you on trial. If it was the council they would probably just send another Spectre after you, with the only evidence of you being "rouge" is some voice clip from a random Quarian.

And the Alliance will probably put you on trial for working with Cerberus, and the game will probably not let you properly defend yourself, or not even let you defend yourself. Whenever you tried to do that in ME2 Shepard would end up saying that he's working for Cerberus, even though I picked the option that said "I am NOT working for Cerberus".

Good god I am really negative right now for some reason. But fuck it, thats how I feel inside.

Bringing back weapon mods make me happy though. And hopefully the gameplay will be less boring, and the Soldier/Adept/Engineer/Sentinel classes will actually be fun to play.
You lose your Spectre status after you 'die' at the beginning of Mass Effect 2. You may or may not be reinstated, depending on if you saved the Citadel and if you spoke to Anderson. Even then, he reminds you that it's just a formality. You don't even get any benefits.
 

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cursedseishi said:
Anton P. Nym said:
Cerberus, the Illusive Man's "humanity first" organization, is trying to kill Shepard in Mass Effect 3 for an unknown reason.

I can think of two very good reasons. If you blew the Collectors' Base at the end, then they're pissed off you wrecked the loot. And if you didn't, well, hello Reaper-Indoctrinated terrorist group!
Folks not wanting ME2 spoiled shouldn't click the above. Seriously.

To make this post less bland for the unspoiled, let me say that I can't wait until "Holiday 2011".

-- Steve
That, or Illusive man saw no need for Shepard afterwords.

And let me guess...
The trial is because "Oh Em Geee, Shepard worked part time with Cerberus, so even though you saved us all, we're ungrateful pr***s so we're gonna send you to jail" or something huh?

I am glad they are bringing back the weapon mods though.

And that JAmes Sanders guy? I'm betting heavily it was the guy in the clocktower during the trailer.


Gimme your money!!

Anyway, excited.
 
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Devias- said:
You lose your Spectre status after you 'die' at the beginning of Mass Effect 2. You may or may not be reinstated, depending on if you saved the Citadel and if you spoke to Anderson. Even then, he reminds you that it's just a formality. You don't even get any benefits.
So... they make you a Spectre, but don't make you a Spectre?

What?
 

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What about Tali? RAGE!!!!!

Seriously though, I can't wait. I just hope BioWare takes their sweet time with it. Not to be a Negative Nancy, but they can easily fuck this up. I don't care if they delay the damn thing 20 times over, I want the last game in the ME series to be be the best freakin game BioWare made. Neigh! The best game..... in the world....
 

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subtlefuge said:
Android2137 said:
Eh, I don't buy the Illusive Man bit.

There is no good reason for him to want to kill you
This pisses me off oh so much.

A more logical approach would be a Magneto/X relationship where he opposes you, but at least realizes that you're helping out his cause. I mean besides the countless resources he spent, he views you as a symbol or icon for the best of humanity.

That's about enough ranting, but I fear that Bioware might be losing its touch.
Wait, I got a little confused. Are you pissed off at my reasoning or at Bioware?

If it's Bioware, like the OP said, all this info should be taken with a grain of salt.
 

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Irridium said:
Devias- said:
You lose your Spectre status after you 'die' at the beginning of Mass Effect 2. You may or may not be reinstated, depending on if you saved the Citadel and if you spoke to Anderson. Even then, he reminds you that it's just a formality. You don't even get any benefits.
So... they make you a Spectre, but don't make you a Spectre?

What?
I don't understand it either. I suppose the Council started to disregard you after your 'death' and rumors of your cooperation with Cerberus. Possibly also becoming a thorn in their side by incessantly speaking of 'reapers'. They cannot afford to let someone that unpredictable run around with Spectre benefits. Still, they cannot shun the hero that saved the Citadel unquestionably. I know that if you're granted the Spectre status, it changes the dialogue during one quest. The one where you expose the volus who accuses a Quarian of stealing his valuables. Nothing else other than that though.
 
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Devias- said:
Irridium said:
Devias- said:
You lose your Spectre status after you 'die' at the beginning of Mass Effect 2. You may or may not be reinstated, depending on if you saved the Citadel and if you spoke to Anderson. Even then, he reminds you that it's just a formality. You don't even get any benefits.
So... they make you a Spectre, but don't make you a Spectre?

What?
I don't understand it either. I suppose the Council started to disregard you after your 'death' and your rumored cooperation with Cerberus. Possibly also becoming a thorn in their side incessantly speaking of 'reapers'. They cannot afford to let someone that unstable run around with Spectre benefits. Still, they cannot shun the hero that saved the Citadel unquestionably. I know that if you're granted the Spectre status, it changes the dialogue during one quest. The one where you exposed the volus who accused a Quarian of stealing his valuables. Nothing else other than that though.
But you could use it in Thane's loyalty mission, when your interrogating that guy. He threatens to sue, you go "I'm a Spectre, *****.", and he gets all sad. Or something like that.

In the Shadow Broker DLC it also plays a small role.
 

Daftmau5

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Irridium said:
Devias- said:
You lose your Spectre status after you 'die' at the beginning of Mass Effect 2. You may or may not be reinstated, depending on if you saved the Citadel and if you spoke to Anderson. Even then, he reminds you that it's just a formality. You don't even get any benefits.
So... they make you a Spectre, but don't make you a Spectre?

What?
It was meant to be a public thing, if my memory is correct. Reinstate the savior of the galaxy as Spectre, and people will ease off your case a bit more for having *some* common sense (because they know that you suck). It was meant as a sign of good will (and nothing more) in the form of making you a Spectre again. Just a simple masquerade, but a nice gesture, nonetheless (from their point of view, anyway).

It's all politics, I tell ya.
 

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For the people who are confused as to why Shepard is on trial at the beginning of Mass Effect 3, play The Arrival DLC and you'll see why he's on trial.
 

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Irridium said:
Devias- said:
Irridium said:
Devias- said:
You lose your Spectre status after you 'die' at the beginning of Mass Effect 2. You may or may not be reinstated, depending on if you saved the Citadel and if you spoke to Anderson. Even then, he reminds you that it's just a formality. You don't even get any benefits.
So... they make you a Spectre, but don't make you a Spectre?

What?
I don't understand it either. I suppose the Council started to disregard you after your 'death' and your rumored cooperation with Cerberus. Possibly also becoming a thorn in their side incessantly speaking of 'reapers'. They cannot afford to let someone that unstable run around with Spectre benefits. Still, they cannot shun the hero that saved the Citadel unquestionably. I know that if you're granted the Spectre status, it changes the dialogue during one quest. The one where you exposed the volus who accused a Quarian of stealing his valuables. Nothing else other than that though.
But you could use it in Thane's loyalty mission, when your interrogating that guy. He threatens to sue, you go "I'm a Spectre, *****.", and he gets all sad. Or something like that.

In the Shadow Broker DLC it also plays a small role.
I'm not sure. I think the option to intimidate the suspect with your status is open even if you aren't reinstated. This is most likely wrong, so I'll verify when I make my final playthrough on ME2.
 

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Let me stick Ashley and Miranda on the same ship to watch the cattiness ensue please. I'd love to see Ashley going: "I can live with the fact Shepard chose you over me... please die."

Also, as a Paragon my Shepard's trial could be quite a long process due to the sheer number of character witnesses.
 

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Well considering the council never believed anything you said until their asses were right on the line, is it any surprise that the Alliance would behave in the exact same stupid way?

I can't wait, I still want Thane in my party purely to see him kick Kaiden's ass for being such a whiny jerk.

K: You've been gone for 2 years, you never called or anything!
Shep: yup, being dead has that little problem.
K:wee ooo weee ooo!

I'd like to see just the galactic armada I've collected all together. I would have to do a little dance.
 

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Android2137 said:
Wait, I got a little confused. Are you pissed off at my reasoning or at Bioware?

If it's Bioware, like the OP said, all this info should be taken with a grain of salt.
It was Bioware, I didn't read the whole part about it not necessarily being accurate. I was too busy trying to avoid major spoilers.
 

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....dammit. Now I'm excited and hyped up as all hell. A middle ground between the first two with Garrus and Wrex? I must be dreaming.
 

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Daftmau5 said:
Irridium said:
Devias- said:
You lose your Spectre status after you 'die' at the beginning of Mass Effect 2. You may or may not be reinstated, depending on if you saved the Citadel and if you spoke to Anderson. Even then, he reminds you that it's just a formality. You don't even get any benefits.
So... they make you a Spectre, but don't make you a Spectre?

What?
It was meant to be a public thing, if my memory is correct. Reinstate the savior of the galaxy as Spectre, and people will ease off your case a bit more for having *some* common sense (because they know that you suck). It was meant as a sign of good will (and nothing more) in the form of making you a Spectre again. Just a simple masquerade, but a nice gesture, nonetheless (from their point of view, anyway).

It's all politics, I tell ya.
I think he was straight up made a Spectre again but never really had the opportunity to 'use' it because he was operating outside Citadel space in ME2 (something about being in the Terminus systems, if I remember correctly). And while they gave him the Spectre status again due to his past actions, it was also kind of hush-hush because of his alignment with the pro-human Cerberus.
 

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If you played the "Arrival" DLC you can kind of make an educated guess why Sheperd is on trial. I really hope Wrex is a extra character for those that kept him alive, I would rather they bring both teams from Mass Effect 1 and 2 together. Really interested in this new character though.

I swear if the Council wont help me and are like " Oh yes Reapers the Immortal Starships that are attack Earth." Heads will roll -.-