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V8 Ninja said:
While I haven't played the game, the funny thing that I find about the endings is that it seems no previous actions influence your ability to be able to get them. It's not like you have to go down a specific path in order to get a specific ending; it just appears to be a ternary choice of which ending you want. For a game that's based off of player choice and that choice coming back to bite/help you, the ways to get the endings just seems like an insult to the players.
That's false. I for example only had two choices at the end. There is also a third.
 

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awmperry said:
I just stumbled across this:

That actually will be our goal with the whole trilogy. To take all of the things you've done in Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 and then just let it go. Let it diverge into wildly different conclusions."
http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1055366p2.html

In other words, they told us they'd have "wildly different [endings]" based on all the choices throughout the games. And at the end all that goes out the window and it comes down to three options from a machine winched down from the flies.

I pre-ordered the CE, for about £70 - a lot, but having grown to love the first games it seemed worth it. I haven't got home to open it yet, but having read the summaries of the endings... I dunno, is it even worth keeping? Should I simply return it and buy the patch from PatchGeeks instead?

What a poor show, Bioware.
the thing is, the game is perfect up until the last scene, everything the combat, the characters EVERYTHING it would be the best game i have ever played but i can't find the will to re play it, just because of that fucking ending :'(
 

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Nimcha said:
V8 Ninja said:
While I haven't played the game, the funny thing that I find about the endings is that it seems no previous actions influence your ability to be able to get them. It's not like you have to go down a specific path in order to get a specific ending; it just appears to be a ternary choice of which ending you want. For a game that's based off of player choice and that choice coming back to bite/help you, the ways to get the endings just seems like an insult to the players.
That's false. I for example only had two choices at the end. There is also a third.
you get more endings based on how many points your army had, the lowest is, destroy everything, the next is control and then the weird merge singularity thing
 

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I'm baffled at everyone who says your choices don't have meaning because the war can only be ended three ways. That is like saying all the people who died fighting Japan don't matter because they ended hostilities with Japan by dropping a nuke on them.
 

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I hate the ending because it flies in the face of one of my favorite aspects of the story.

Usually in sci-fi it is an unwritten rule that AI/robots want to kill off all humans/organics, and whenever this rule is put into use it never makes sense.

Since Mass Effect 2 we have been introduced to AI characters that behave like they can actually think for themselves such as EDI and Legion. These characters show that AI isn't dead set on murdering all organic life, that they have their own motives and desires.

Then you have to f*** up the galaxy with one of 3 decisions because AI will always murder all organic life... f***.
 

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V8 Ninja said:
While I haven't played the game, the funny thing that I find about the endings is that it seems no previous actions influence your ability to be able to get them. It's not like you have to go down a specific path in order to get a specific ending; it just appears to be a ternary choice of which ending you want. For a game that's based off of player choice and that choice coming back to bite/help you, the ways to get the endings just seems like an insult to the players.
Couldn't have said it better, Caped Crusader.

We want choices!! Even considering what you have right now, it should be something that you earn, maybe by navigating conversation trees until you force the deus ex machine to give you an option, an option that suits your Shepard's nature.
 

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Matt King said:
Nimcha said:
V8 Ninja said:
While I haven't played the game, the funny thing that I find about the endings is that it seems no previous actions influence your ability to be able to get them. It's not like you have to go down a specific path in order to get a specific ending; it just appears to be a ternary choice of which ending you want. For a game that's based off of player choice and that choice coming back to bite/help you, the ways to get the endings just seems like an insult to the players.
That's false. I for example only had two choices at the end. There is also a third.
you get more endings based on how many points your army had, the lowest is, destroy everything, the next is control and then the weird merge singularity thing
That's so messed up... In my opinion the better option IS destroying the reapers. Is it correct that if you have everything capped up and you choose destroy you get an extra sequence that hints Shepard survived?
 

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I know what I'll do, then. I'll play through until the lead-up to the ending, then I'll quit and write myself an ending where Shepard enters a room to find the boss Reaper - an ancient Prothean who has, over the aeons, replaced parts of himself so he's now really just a husk absorbed into a barely human-sized Reaper shell. Then Shepard punches him in the face and hooks his Reaper uplink up to a car battery.

At that point, all the Reapers in the universe get zapped, and Shepard goes back to the Normandy for tea and medals.
 

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Aisaku said:
Matt King said:
Nimcha said:
That's false. I for example only had two choices at the end. There is also a third.
you get more endings based on how many points your army had, the lowest is, destroy everything, the next is control and then the weird merge singularity thing
That's so messed up... In my opinion the better option IS destroying the reapers. Is it correct that if you have everything capped up and you choose destroy you get an extra sequence that hints Shepard survived?
Yes, if you have an effective military strength of up to 4000 you can choose to destroy and Shepard will live.
 

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Nimcha said:
V8 Ninja said:
While I haven't played the game, the funny thing that I find about the endings is that it seems no previous actions influence your ability to be able to get them. It's not like you have to go down a specific path in order to get a specific ending; it just appears to be a ternary choice of which ending you want. For a game that's based off of player choice and that choice coming back to bite/help you, the ways to get the endings just seems like an insult to the players.
That's false. I for example only had two choices at the end. There is also a third.
After further inspection, yes; there is a third option that cannot be unlocked through a normal playthrough of the game.

...HOWEVER, it is so vague and almost exactly identical to the other two endings so much that, until more DLC or another game in the series is released, we have no idea whether it effects anything about anything. And the choice is still very much ternary; even if you unlock the ending you don't have to take that option. The game doesn't enforce your past actions on you, making the choices (appear) pointless in the grand scheme of things.
 

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Jaeke said:
You got it backwards buddy, Controlling the Reaper's is the good ending, destroying all synthetics is the waaayyyy bad ending, sure you (not you i mean Shepard and everyone else in the galaxy) thinks that its the best way but according to that most Amazing(ly retarded) Final Guardian of All Time, destroying synthetics is bad because it will destroy the Reaper's who cannot reset the cycle that keeps organics from destroying each other with synthetics anyway. Controlling the Reaper's meant that life could start anew, by itself, without the help of the Reapers.
I think Harbinger(or maybe Sovereign) explained how they cultivated races to evolve via the Mass Relays, well with them gone and no other influence of the meta-races, life could evolve on its own and the Cycle could be broken.

You Evil Bastard ;P
You know, for some reason I actually suspected that whenever I got to that part, but I leaned away since that was exactly what the Illusive Man was trying to do, and it seemed like it would've betrayed not only my crew, but would've went against my Shepards very morals and integrity.

But, I'm sincerely hoping that Bioware somehow makes another ending to it, where we can go "Screw you, Guardian!", and we manage to defeat the Reapers either conventionally somehow, or find a way to re-purpose the Crucible to destroy the Reapers without destroying the Citadel and the Mass Relays in the process.

Honestly, I don't mind my Shepard dying in the end, I just wish it was a little more heroic, or making a choice that didn't negate all of the work you put into the alliances and war assets. Though, part of me would still love to see my Man-Shep ending up on Rannoch with Tali, or my Fem-Shep moving to Palaven with Garrus. Or Earth. I can't help but think Garrus wouldn't mind either.
 

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V8 Ninja said:
After further inspection, yes; there is a third option that cannot be unlocked through a normal playthrough of the game.

...HOWEVER, it is so vague and almost exactly identical to the other two endings so much that, until more DLC or another game in the series is released, we have no idea whether it effects anything about anything. And the choice is still very much ternary; even if you unlock the ending you don't have to take that option. The game doesn't enforce your past actions on you, making the choices (appear) pointless in the grand scheme of things.
Weird, after my first playthrough of the game (an imported ME1-ME2 file) i had the 3 options, Control destroy or synergy, did you mean a standalone playthrough or a single player playthrough? because you can attain all endings via single player alone.
 

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Zetsubou-Sama said:
V8 Ninja said:
After further inspection, yes; there is a third option that cannot be unlocked through a normal playthrough of the game.

...HOWEVER, it is so vague and almost exactly identical to the other two endings so much that, until more DLC or another game in the series is released, we have no idea whether it effects anything about anything. And the choice is still very much ternary; even if you unlock the ending you don't have to take that option. The game doesn't enforce your past actions on you, making the choices (appear) pointless in the grand scheme of things.
Weird, after my first playthrough of the game (an imported ME1-ME2 file) i had the 3 options, Control destroy or synergy, did you mean a standalone playthrough or a single player playthrough? because you can attain all endings via single player alone.
I think they mean the variation where you get the hint that Shepard survived the destruction ending.

Also, so more people can see it: http://www.facebook.com/DemandABetterEndingToMassEffect3

@RetakeME3
 

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Aisaku said:
Matt King said:
Nimcha said:
V8 Ninja said:
While I haven't played the game, the funny thing that I find about the endings is that it seems no previous actions influence your ability to be able to get them. It's not like you have to go down a specific path in order to get a specific ending; it just appears to be a ternary choice of which ending you want. For a game that's based off of player choice and that choice coming back to bite/help you, the ways to get the endings just seems like an insult to the players.
That's false. I for example only had two choices at the end. There is also a third.
you get more endings based on how many points your army had, the lowest is, destroy everything, the next is control and then the weird merge singularity thing
That's so messed up... In my opinion the better option IS destroying the reapers. Is it correct that if you have everything capped up and you choose destroy you get an extra sequence that hints Shepard survived?
i think if you have 5000 plus points (i got this on first try :D) you get a small thing after the fact like an intake of breath or somthing
and but destroying the reapers destroys pretty much ALL technology that's edi, the geth, hell some of your body all gone
 

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Why would you want to destroy the Reapers? They are the guardians of life, destroying only the life that threatened all life. Inevitably without them some race would make AIs that would rebel against organics and kill all life in the galaxy.
Which is worse? A galaxy teemed with life that only has its advanced races extinguished every 50.000 years, or an eternally dead galaxy? Obviously the second.

That's why I see the synthesis as the only good ending. No more doomed galaxy, no more Reapers.
This is all based on what the Catalyst said anyway. I hope he didn't lie. Lol.
 

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Cl0udz0r said:
Why would you want to destroy the Reapers? They are the guardians of life, destroying only the life that threatened all life. Inevitably without them some race would make AIs that would rebel against organics and kill all life in the galaxy.
Which is worse? A galaxy teemed with life that only has its advanced races extinguished every 50.000 years, or an eternally dead galaxy? Obviously the second.

That's why I see the synthesis as the only good ending. No more doomed galaxy, no more Reapers.
This is all based on what the Catalyst said anyway. I hope he didn't lie. Lol.
Exactly! Can Shepard actually trust the Catalyst? How we know that it isn't just trying to get Shepard to do what it wants?
 

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Yep, just add my name to the countless other who absolutely despise this so called "ending". its bullshit that Bioware did this to us, I mean all these decisions and stories that you learn about only to have them thrown away in multiple choice ending were its basically screaming "Fucked Up" at you? Ya, I'll wait til DLC, then I'm just going to put my Mass Effect trilogy on the shelf to collect dust if they don't fix the goddamn ending.

By the way, there is a guy on the Bioware forums that wrote his own ending. Pretty good, here is the link. It sounds like Bioware might actually take it into consideration, IMO totally worth a fifteen dollar spend for a good ending.

http://social.bioware.com/poll.php?user=1183972&poll_id=29101
 

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Tomo Stryker said:
Yep, just add my name to the countless other who absolutely despise this so called "ending". its bullshit that Bioware did this to us, I mean all these decisions and stories that you learn about only to have them thrown away in multiple choice ending were its basically screaming "Fucked Up" at you? Ya, I'll wait til DLC, then I'm just going to put my Mass Effect trilogy on the shelf to collect dust if they don't fix the goddamn ending.

By the way, there is a guy on the Bioware forums that wrote his own ending. Pretty good, here is the link. It sounds like Bioware might actually take it into consideration, IMO totally worth a fifteen dollar spend for a good ending.

http://social.bioware.com/poll.php?user=1183972&poll_id=29101
That's priceless... This is exactly what the game needs, Shepard rebelling against the Conduit's options and fighting to the bitter end. That way the assets would be worth something.
 

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Aisaku said:
That's priceless... This is exactly what the game needs, Shepard rebelling against the Conduit's options and fighting to the bitter end. That way the assets would be worth something.
That is exactly what I thought, make sure to spread the message though. If Bioware is going to change it they need to know were upset. Although from the amount of heat there going to be getting in the next couple weeks I'm sure they will know.
 

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Aisaku said:
Tomo Stryker said:
Yep, just add my name to the countless other who absolutely despise this so called "ending". its bullshit that Bioware did this to us, I mean all these decisions and stories that you learn about only to have them thrown away in multiple choice ending were its basically screaming "Fucked Up" at you? Ya, I'll wait til DLC, then I'm just going to put my Mass Effect trilogy on the shelf to collect dust if they don't fix the goddamn ending.

By the way, there is a guy on the Bioware forums that wrote his own ending. Pretty good, here is the link. It sounds like Bioware might actually take it into consideration, IMO totally worth a fifteen dollar spend for a good ending.

http://social.bioware.com/poll.php?user=1183972&poll_id=29101
That's priceless... This is exactly what the game needs, Shepard rebelling against the Conduit's options and fighting to the bitter end. That way the assets would be worth something.
Yeah, why go the the extreme of gathering thousands of points worth of war assists if it doesn't matter in the end? Make it so that they pull through with pure determination!