Mass Effect 3 Fans Will Find Closure June 26th

[LtFerret]

Nothing short of a total rewrite will fix this ending.

All this will do is make the shit not smell slightly as bad

 

[Darth Sea Bass]

July the 4th in the uk??? For fucks sake!

 

[phoenix352]

You're still gonna cry and complain and you still won't even know why. And anyone who tries to guess you scream at them about how they "don't get it".

I guess there's a few different camps after the shitstorm first ended. You have the content side happy to see more content, the disappointed side hoping that this'll satisfy them after a letdown, then you've got the retake side... Bioware is dead to them and the entire series has been ruined. For that last group it's not gonna matter what the extended ending is. They'll irrationally flame and shit all over Bioware like they did before. They've already made up their mind.

So there's gonna be at least a flamewar no matter what.

if you think the retake me3 guys were irrational and vulgar then you my friend have no idea what that movement stood for or what they did.

just because 1 or 2 extreme people identified with the group don't mean they represent it.
the retake movement was by far one of the best things to happen in recent years as gamers stood united for a worthwhile goal and did so with honorable means and not hate mongering and spin doctoring every thing like bioware did against them.


and yeah your right , the retake guys probably gona hate the extended cuts because they frankly did not address 90% of the issues people had with the ending it just piles on more shit to the already stinky pile.

1 or 2? Holy shit you must haven't been on the net when this went down.

i was among the 1st to be apart of said group , i got into the game real early and by god was one of the early people who experienced the endings glorious disaster and i kept track of the web for a long time after the initial debate.
and that's exactly what it was a debate practically all the people who finished the game early and since then were debating VERY logically and rationally about how the ending made no sense and how they just flat out ignored every thing about the series and went with god child + space magic as an ending to a trilogy.

after a while the retake campaign started and nothing changed people who cared about the games and the ending continued in civilized debate at which bioware scoffed , belittled and spit at.

the shit storm itself and the many extremest on various sites were just people not retake specific people they just identified with the group but did not represent them.
simple as that.

that movement was a victory in every meaning of the word even if bioware still gave no shit about the people or what they represented.

that's just how it happened , don't just go and shame the movement for the few that called for biowares head' the majority of the people who were with retake were more civilized than the people who made the game.

Are you kidding me? You people reported them to the FTC, you won't tell outsiders what you're crying about like if you told them you'd be executed, you threw a Cliffy B level tantrum whenever somebody said you're entitled and I know there's people in RME that said OR, 100,000 Strong and OO are entitled.

So saying there was one or two bad members is laughable.

after what EA and bioware marketed the game as you damn well believe people took it to the FTC, lies upon lies were thrown at consumers.

as for "not telling anyone what were crying about" if you couldn't find a single post about what the movement was upset about you clearly didn't care to know the information in the 1st place every time the issue came up people plastered the same exact reasons why, reasons that were very clear and well thought out.

no one but the extremists acted negatively to the criticism thrown at the group the majority knew and still know what we wanted and that was not entitlement.

as to the 1 or 2 people comment i keep saying that's a very obvious understatement, i thought you would actually understand that i don't literally mean 1 or 2 guys.
and yeah the very low percentage of extremists that the group knows about that's what they are a very low minority of upset people who joined the bandwagon on the movement , again the action of a few do not define the group.


iam tired of this discussion, you obviously have some kind of personal agenda of hate towards the group and by your reasoning so far it seems rather shallow and based on false information, i do not want nor need to debate you further about the issue.

good day.

 

[mattttherman3]

Well now I'm torn, what to play tuesday, ME3 or Skyrim(dawnguard)

Play something decent instead.

Yeah, Skyrim is my favorite game. ME3 is in the top 5, no need to troll me

 

[scorptatious]

I'm sorta nervous about what's going to happen.

I would really love this extended DLC to at least mostly fix what happened, at the same time though, I feel that this isn't going to deliver and I'm going to have to avoid Gaming Discussion again for a while due to the initial reaction.

 

[natster43]

Cool. If they can fix ALL of the plot holes, I will be content with the ending. . Then I can move on from the series.

 

[RaikuFA]

You're still gonna cry and complain and you still won't even know why. And anyone who tries to guess you scream at them about how they "don't get it".

I guess there's a few different camps after the shitstorm first ended. You have the content side happy to see more content, the disappointed side hoping that this'll satisfy them after a letdown, then you've got the retake side... Bioware is dead to them and the entire series has been ruined. For that last group it's not gonna matter what the extended ending is. They'll irrationally flame and shit all over Bioware like they did before. They've already made up their mind.

So there's gonna be at least a flamewar no matter what.

if you think the retake me3 guys were irrational and vulgar then you my friend have no idea what that movement stood for or what they did.

just because 1 or 2 extreme people identified with the group don't mean they represent it.
the retake movement was by far one of the best things to happen in recent years as gamers stood united for a worthwhile goal and did so with honorable means and not hate mongering and spin doctoring every thing like bioware did against them.


and yeah your right , the retake guys probably gona hate the extended cuts because they frankly did not address 90% of the issues people had with the ending it just piles on more shit to the already stinky pile.

1 or 2? Holy shit you must haven't been on the net when this went down.

i was among the 1st to be apart of said group , i got into the game real early and by god was one of the early people who experienced the endings glorious disaster and i kept track of the web for a long time after the initial debate.
and that's exactly what it was a debate practically all the people who finished the game early and since then were debating VERY logically and rationally about how the ending made no sense and how they just flat out ignored every thing about the series and went with god child + space magic as an ending to a trilogy.

after a while the retake campaign started and nothing changed people who cared about the games and the ending continued in civilized debate at which bioware scoffed , belittled and spit at.

the shit storm itself and the many extremest on various sites were just people not retake specific people they just identified with the group but did not represent them.
simple as that.

that movement was a victory in every meaning of the word even if bioware still gave no shit about the people or what they represented.

that's just how it happened , don't just go and shame the movement for the few that called for biowares head' the majority of the people who were with retake were more civilized than the people who made the game.

Are you kidding me? You people reported them to the FTC, you won't tell outsiders what you're crying about like if you told them you'd be executed, you threw a Cliffy B level tantrum whenever somebody said you're entitled and I know there's people in RME that said OR, 100,000 Strong and OO are entitled.

So saying there was one or two bad members is laughable.

after what EA and bioware marketed the game as you damn well believe people took it to the FTC, lies upon lies were thrown at consumers.

as for "not telling anyone what were crying about" if you couldn't find a single post about what the movement was upset about you clearly didn't care to know the information in the 1st place every time the issue came up people plastered the same exact reasons why, reasons that were very clear and well thought out.

no one but the extremists acted negatively to the criticism thrown at the group the majority knew and still know what we wanted and that was not entitlement.

as to the 1 or 2 people comment i keep saying that's a very obvious understatement, i thought you would actually understand that i don't literally mean 1 or 2 guys.
and yeah the very low percentage of extremists that the group knows about that's what they are a very low minority of upset people who joined the bandwagon on the movement , again the action of a few do not define the group.


iam tired of this discussion, you obviously have some kind of personal agenda of hate towards the group and by your reasoning so far it seems rather shallow and based on false information, i do not want nor need to debate you further about the issue.

good day.

I didn't look? I asked EVERYONE who said they were involved what it was, was it cause it wasn't happy? It didn't matter what choice I made? Or how about cause Bioware "lied"? Or was it just vague? Well apparently all 4 of those were wrong. No one wanted me or anyone who didn't play it (even some who did) know why you're so upset.

 

[AceTrilby]

Why do I get the feeling that no matter how they handle this, this forum is going to be damn near unreadable for about a month from all the snark?

I'll play it - can't argue with free, and that 1.9GB file size is suspiciously large.
Bigger than Lair of the Shadow Broker, in fact...

 

[dreadedcandiru99]

I don't have any hopes. Judging by this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y7xk1_x8ko it is very clear that Bioware don't understand how the ending fails on all basic levels as a piece of storytelling, and that they are too full of themselves to listen the countless complains and grievances people have put out over the past couple of months. It hardly takes more than browsing for 10 minutes in any given thread about the ending to find out what is wrong.

They still seem to think that the hatred comes from a lack of "closure" and "clarity", when the most massive issues with ending are how it violates almost everything in the series thematically, dramatically, and lorewise, and that it is literally the exact opposite of what was repeatedly promised doing development. They are basically going to release a polished turd.

I think I am going to be sitting this one out on Youtube.

Seconded. As far as I can tell, no amount of "clarification" can change the simple fact that the ending was fundamentally broken. This Extended Cut thing is an exercise in futility--and what's more, it's kind of unnecessary at this point. I'm not hurting for better endings, myself; I've read dozens of them by now, written by fans who apparently know far about storytelling than Hudson and Walters. So yeah, maybe I'll watch it on YouTube. Maybe.

Also, it seems like this will never stop being relevant:

 

[RaikuFA]

With forum raging/spamming/trolling of Bioware, metabombing, hate mail, death threats, rating bombings, calls for firings...

And it wasn't a minority doing these things. There were certainly calls for civility from within but the movement had already defined itself by the majority its members actions.

It was a vocal minority, but seeing as you already clearly have the intent of slandering the movement, I see no reason to continue this argument.

Hey, remember when you guys demanded charity money back when it turned out it wouldn't affect the ending?

I do. And it made me sad.

 

[Zeraki]

I honestly hope the majority of the added content is during the actual mission on Earth. I want to fight alongside my Geth Primes and squadmates from Mass Effect 2.

 

[DanielBrown]

Guess I'll get it. Probably won't be replaying ME3 for a year or so though. Got a backlog and some recently arrived games to take care of, then I need to get my hands on another copy of ME2 for my PS3 just to make the game a bit better.
Having your past choices made for you had more of an impact than I assumed.

I missed Wrex.

 

[Starke]

People are STILL pissed about that whole thing? Whatever. People just need to get over it. I was fine with the ending as is, but then again, I'm a fan of cheesy and campy sci-fi. Mass Effect was always that to me, so the ending didn't bother me like it did other people. At least Mass Effect 3 was awesome all the way until the end (and is still awesome to me for the multiplayer); Dragon Age 2 was terrible the whole time.

Honestly I thought DA2 was hilarious the whole time...

Anyway, on topic, unless this includes a title card explaining how Casey Hudson is now living under a bridge in Vancouver, I'm not seeing it really bringing any closure.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

No closure to be had, its bad enough when a cheap flick done poorly but when a 60$ game goes bad its not good for anyone....

 

[Innegativeion]

So the sleeping crocodile Bioware's been poking with a jagged stick for months is finally going to awaken.

Whether it will shower them gifts from its magical swamp(crocs have those) or attempt to bite all of their faces and limbs off remains to be seen.

Given that they are so adamant in their assertion that the ending is not being radically rewritten, I'd have to lean my money on the second option.

 

[Blachman201_v1legacy]

Hey, remember when you guys demanded charity money back when it turned out it wouldn't affect the ending?

I do. And it made me sad.

Yeah, there were some confusion about that. But the extend it happened to seems to have been grossly exaggerated. Bottomline was that $80k was donated to sick children. It is rather hard to vilify that.

chapta: "let it be" ...I wish it was that easy.

 

[dessertmonkeyjk]

Any word whether the 1.9 gigs are all for a single player content or a single player epilogue with a multiplayer update?

Personally, I'm hoping it's all devoted to single player content.

It better be or Bioware is gonna hurt. Bad.

 

[WanderingFool]

A case of 'damned if they do, damned if they don't'. I'm looking forward to seeing what is being offered, but there will still be lots of rage on the forums.

It will never be enough for some.

Personally, I didn't have an issue with the various endings, aside from the infamous Normandy scene and it coming out of nowhere.

True. The only way to avoid said rage is to crucifie Casey Hudson go back in time and not let the ending as is leave the drawing table.

 

[Vault101]

1.9 gigs? holy shit....

well I'm not expecting much..but we will see

as for those saying they'll watch it on youtube..unless you've traded in the game wouldn't you at lest just play it for yourself?