Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer, Ending DLC Details Leak

[Angry_squirrel]

Don't expect the Indoctrination Theorists to buy that. You ever try talking to those people? It's like a goddamn cult, and they get VERY pissy when you poke holes at them in logic. Honestly they just need an official dogma and a pontiff and I think they could make a run at legal religious status.

That's a bit harsh, and a generalization.

The way I see it, the indoctrination theory is almost definitely not the way the ending was meant to be interpreted, but that said, it does have enough evidence to make it believable. And if looking at it from that perspective makes some people happy with an otherwise awful ending, what's the problem with it?

 

[Starke]

Ugh...leaks. The thing partially responsible for the ending we got in the first place.

Eh, a big source problem was Hudson going, "ah ken rite gud."

Anyway, I literally haven't even fired up ME3 in months. I really don't give two flying fucks at this point. If they actually went back and redid it, maybe I'd care, but until then, Bioware passed the point of no return for me.

 

[Scars Unseen]

Meh... maybe if I'm not still playing Dragon's Dogma. I downloaded the recent multiplayer DLC when it came out, but I haven't bothered booting up the game yet. I guess I've just come to accept that ME3's ending is absolute garbage and that Bioware just isn't the company they once were(thanks, EA).

Just like FFXIII has done for Square-Enix and everything post-WoW has done for Blizzard, Mass Effect 3 has now relegated Bioware to "wait and see what the reviewers and the customers have to say about it." Sega died in my eyes when they refused to let Alpha Protocol get patched. A lot of others died a decade ago...

...I'm running out of cherished developers from my youth. I mean, there's still Nintendo, but they insist on coming out with subpar hardware that guarantees that their games are almost the only thing worth buying for the system, so I don't waste my money with them either.

*sigh*

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

No, it'll be hated with levels of hate previously not encountered. The mindset will be this: You listened to us that we wanted change, but you didn't give us the change we wanted.

 

[Metalrocks]

i have told my self one thing. if the DLC might safe the ending and clear things up, i will keep the games. but if it failes (which im sure it will) i will throw away the games and pretend they never existed.

because of the DLC, i havent deleted ME3 from my pc yet. at least BF3 is fun to play so this gives me a reason to keep origin on my system.

 

[Simonoly]

I don't know if I can put myself through those last 15 minutes of the game again just to see an epilogue. As soon as I see Space Jesus again I'm either going to laugh uncontrollably for a solid 5 minutes or I'm going to enter an almighty nerd rage (with accompanying damage resistance and increased strength of course).

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Well by the looks of it, Indoctrination is out the window. Funny, because it would have been an easy out for Bioware. Either they really intended on that shit ending, or they're massively incompetent.

Don't expect the Indoctrination Theorists to buy that. You ever try talking to those people? It's like a goddamn cult, and they get VERY pissy when you poke holes at them in logic. Honestly they just need an official dogma and a pontiff and I think they could make a run at legal religious status.

Well to be fair, the official explanation of what the extended cut will do is pretty vague.

 

[Kingjackl]

Assuming this is true (probably is) how does all this stuff get leaked? Between this, the last batch of DLC, the From Ashes DLC, the multiplayer information and the original story notes, can't these guys keep a lid on anything? The EA Marketing Department isn't an office, it's a great big collander.

That said, I'm still looking forward to this. Multiplayer is still fun, and it hasn't yet reached the Team Fortress 2 point of being completely oversaturated with content. Give it another few months.

I'm honestly looking forward to the Extended Cut. People like to be all doom and gloom about these things, but I never understood why everyone thought the ending was such a big tragedy. I get why people don't like it, but all we really need to know is what happened to the characters afterwards and it'll be fine. I suppose my optimism comes from picking Control though; it's definately the most underrated of the choices.

 

[Wedgetail122]

Ya know, I'm guessing that the whole ending scheme was actually a clever marketing ploy, whilst most fans were up in arms wailing thier hearts out, many actually boycotting the series, I picked up a copy of the origanal Mass Effect to see what all the fuss was about. I was hooked from the first mission, the minute I finished the game I was out the door to the local games shop to find ME2, which I have since completed with all surviving team members. Im still going to get ME3... once the price comes down in Australia >_<. I now see what all the fans were so worked up about, but I still don't think it deserved all the rapp it got for the ending. Yeah the ME3 endings suck, no doubt about it, but was the last 10 Minutes of a game franchise really enough to spoil 3 games worth of a franchise that gave us the experience to venture out into the stars. Fight along side valiant comrades from distant races in a fight for pure survival, a race against time to stop the ancient evil of the reapers enveloping all. No other franchise has let you make the decisions you made along the road, the ability to hold the life of a teammate within your palm, the times where you must decide if genocide is justifiable against an enemy such as the geth or of the past like the krogan. You can right the wrongs of history and battle the greatest fight humanity has ever seen. Tell me that all of this, the experience and the fun times we had, is not overturned by a crumby ending. right... vent over,

it will be good that they clarify the fallout of shepards choices. I mean, any clarification is welcome, at least its a step in the right direction.

 

[zombiesinc]

This DLC, that's meant "to add further clarity", likely won't really make anyone happy. The people complaining about the ending probably won't be satisfied and will continue to complain while the people complaining about the complaining will... well, they won't stop complaining. Eventually all of the complaining will collapse in on itself and people simply won't care.

 

[Woodsey]

Well by the looks of it, Indoctrination is out the window. Funny, because it would have been an easy out for Bioware. Either they really intended on that shit ending, or they're massively incompetent.

None of what's quoted gives that impression. In fact, it just says what we already pretty much knew. There'll be a few more scenes.

 

[phantasmalWordsmith]

Now all they need to do is add the Marauder Shields MP character.

 

[Kodlak]

Well it has been said previously that they got some of the voice actors back in, so my guess is that the ending are going to be the same but with some talking about consequences of your choices throughout the game, Fallout 3 ending style.

 

[DustyDrB]

Ugh...leaks. The thing partially responsible for the ending we got in the first place.

Eh, a big source problem was Hudson going, "ah ken rite gud."

Anyway, I literally haven't even fired up ME3 in months. I really don't give two flying fucks at this point. If they actually went back and redid it, maybe I'd care, but until then, Bioware passed the point of no return for me.

I mean they had a different ending planned, but it was leaked. And then people read it (People who I can't imagine being big fans of the series if they spoil the final game for themselves months before it comes out) and ridiculed the script. And then BioWare changed it.

It's not wholly responsible (which is why I said "partially" responsible earlier). Hudson still decided to take over the writing at the very end. But it plays a role.

 

[Stripes]

You cant 'fix' an ending since the original has already ruined it, it was a poor and rushed ending which made no sense and theres no fixing that. We cant change that it happened or that it is the real 'canon' ending and thats unfortunate.

However im still angry at Moviebob for making a massive fuss over people wanting it change, using it as an opportunity to talk from his high horse and condemn the entire industry, before admitting he had not played the games nor had he bothered to even watch the endings. Im amazed people dont have as huge a problem with such unprofessional-ism. He had the arrogance to assume he understood the entire issue based of off what must have been a very brief glance at the situation. In my opinion that behaviour, from a guy who pretends to care about the industry, is unnaceptable and is what is really "holding us back" if anything is.

 

[Storm Dragon]

I would like to offer a rebuttal to all of the people assuming that the ending DLC is going to suck:

Remember why you used to like BioWare and the Mass Effect series. It wasn't for the gameplay, no one would have finished ME1 if that were the case, it was for the writing. Mass Effect 3 may have tripped over its own feet face-first into a pile of broken glass within spitting distance of the finish line, but up until that point, the game was golden. Mordin's sacrifice at the shroud, the final moments of Thane's life, and just shooting bottles with Garrus. All of these moments really made me feel something, and that's not even getting into their other games.

Yes, the ending to ME3 was bad; yes, there is no guarantee that they can fix it; and yes, maybe they will fail; but BioWare has some damn good writers, and if the ending can be fixed, I think they can do it. So I'm still giving them another chance to make things right, and I think you should do the same.

And if it does suck, the DLC isn't going to cost you anything but time, so what have you got to lose?

 

[Rariow]

BioWare, loose the Star Child. And, seriously, multiplayer on Earth? You spent 3 games building a huge, not yet fully explored universe and all you can do is this place? At least it isn't New York. And only new HUMAN classes? Really? I'm still waiting for the Hanar/Volus/Elcor DLC

 

[gnihton]

I would like to offer a rebuttal to all of the people assuming that the ending DLC is going to suck:

Remember why you used to like BioWare and the Mass Effect series. It wasn't for the gameplay, no one would have finished ME1 if that were the case, it was for the writing. Mass Effect 3 may have tripped over its own feet face-first into a pile of broken glass within spitting distance of the finish line, but up until that point, the game was golden. Mordin's sacrifice at the shroud, the final moments of Thane's life, and just shooting bottles with Garrus. All of these moments really made me feel something, and that's not even getting into their other games.

Yes, the ending to ME3 was bad; yes, there is no guarantee that they can fix it; and yes, maybe they will fail; but BioWare has some damn good writers, and if the ending can be fixed, I think they can do it. So I'm still giving them another chance to make things right, and I think you should do the same.

And if it does suck, the DLC isn't going to cost you anything but time, so what have you got to lose?

The quality of Bioware's writing has actually visibly declined over time, first off KOTOR (need I say more?), Mass Effect 1 was excellent and compelling story wise, Mass Effect 2 was mostly good, but not quite as much as the first, I've heard hate for Dragon Age 2 despite having never played it myself, and Mass Effect 3 is carried only by fan service.

Nothing really happens in the game except the characters occasionally doing something funny or referencing previous missions in previous games. That may be good, but it's supposed to be in addition to an actual compelling story. Never mind the fact that the ending invalidates it anyway.

 

[KrossBillNye]

Frankly it is too late for EAWare in my opinion. They lost me as a fan and I have boycotted all games that have EA labeled on them.

As long as this content is still free I will download it and watch it. But I am 99% sure that the content will not subside the huge mess they made with the original content with their *Artistic Integrity*

Some could say Twilight has artistic Integrity, doesn't stop it from being a load of BS though.

 

[Starke]

Ugh...leaks. The thing partially responsible for the ending we got in the first place.

Eh, a big source problem was Hudson going, "ah ken rite gud."

Anyway, I literally haven't even fired up ME3 in months. I really don't give two flying fucks at this point. If they actually went back and redid it, maybe I'd care, but until then, Bioware passed the point of no return for me.

I mean they had a different ending planned, but it was leaked. And then people read it (People who I can't imagine being big fans of the series if they spoil the final game for themselves months before it comes out) and ridiculed the script. And then BioWare changed it.

It's not wholly responsible (which is why I said "partially" responsible earlier). Hudson still decided to take over the writing at the very end. But it plays a role.

Ultimately, though, that was Hudson's call. "Oh god, people leaked the ending, I must rite gud so the spoiled ending doesn't end up being the actual ending."

I mean, what you're saying is legitimate up to the point where Hudson was the one who decided to rewrite the ending. He decided he wanted to tell the ending he wanted, and not the one that Drew Karpyshn(sp?) wrote for the series. At that point; pointing fingers and saying that the script was leaked doesn't really matter, the EP stepped in and rewrote the ending because he wanted to. He only justified it by saying it was leaked and they needed to give fans a fresh ending.

Quite frankly, that's bullshit. If an ending's good, it will stand on its own, spoiled or not. Mass Effect 3's ending was certainly not.