Mass Effect 4 Will Not Feature Shepard or "Shepard 2"

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This has fail written all over it. If they do a sequel and pick one ME3 ending as canon it will be another slap to the face of the people that played the trilogy. There will be another shitstorm related to this for sure.

Including all possible outcomes from ME3 in a ME4 sequel is impossible or at least very hard to achieve. From what I've seen from "Bioware" within the last few years they are incapable of doing it properly.

If they do a prequel it'll be boring most likely or at least not as interesting story wise than the original 3 games.

But I'd love to know where they want to go with the gameplay. They switched the focus from ME1 to ME3 more and more to simpler game mechanics and I still think that ME3 overall was at best an average game. The shooter based gameplay was very linear and boring and the only thing that kept me playing was the story. For the most part the story was able to make for the bad gameplay, but after they fucked up the ending so bad I simply hate the game.

And I still hate this game so much that I don't want to touch any other product made by this company ever again.....
 

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Yes, in matter of fact game will feature Shepard 3
He/she will be combat engineer that is trapped on planetripper class vessel with abominations created by Reapers.
Also game conflict is decided by eating one of 3 cupcakes
And game will be multiplayer only experience, because only losers play alone and have any feeling for imaginary characters or some fictional story.

P.S. Needless to say but I won't buy ME4- my favorite ME was ME1 and I played ME2&3 in hopes of better game and curiosity. Now I'm done with Mass Effect and with EA.
 

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bl4ckh4wk64 said:
Oh look, another person still complaining about Mass Effect 3's ending. Did you not enjoy the other 20 hours of the game?
Oh, look, another person jumping to conclusions about what I'm talking about.

Actually, no, I did not enjoy ME 3 pretty much from start to finish. It was a massive letdown across the board compared to ME 2 let alone the first game, and had plot holes you could lose the Citadel in. The addition of the 4th 'Option' ending (the only one that actually made sense in the context of the previous two games if you played as a Paragon) was the biggest 'FU!' I've ever seen a game company deliver in response to it's fans complaints.

If the decisions that led to ME 3 show the sort of decisions that will be made making Me 4, then, yes, I see it being a TOR level flop.
 

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BaronIveagh said:
But who would buy it at this point, after so much fail on 3?
I will, by all means (for me anyway) it was one of the best games I've ever played. The ending cocked it up, but beyond that?

I loved it.
So I will buy the next Mass Effect title, if anyone.
 

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Mick Golden Blood said:
Gabanuka said:
As I've said before. They need to go for a smaller, more personal story, otherwise they wont beat ME 2 and 3 (1 was pretty small scale if you look at it)
Uhm...

You sure about that?

http://youtu.be/IFxMo9irOLI?t=8m32s

yes, pretty small indeed....
Setting =/= Story


Story wise it was a single squad hunting down a single rogue agent.
 

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Cybylt said:
I thought destroy ending's shockwave thing only applied to artificial intelligence with reaper code in it, which means that Quarians could go back to the systems they used before the integration and could probably go about that rather quickly at that. And that's only assuming you got the quarian and geth to cooperate. Volus don't even have that problem so I'm not sure how they're affected.

Anyway, regardless out it turns out I'd probably be sold as long as I'm not forced to play a human again. Turian would be preferable.
The magic star kid explains that if you choose the destroy option it will "destroy all synthetic life including the geth, as well as most of the technology you rely upon."

So it destroys technology that doesnt have reaper anything in it, which includes the geth and volus.
That still sounds rather selective in what technologies are destroyed. From what's shown in the ending the implication is tech that things like the relays were what's targeted, and relays are pretty explicitly reaper tech. And relays alone are kind of the basis of galactic civilization, as well as the basis of all of space travel and weaponry, so those alone could be what it meant by technology you rely upon.

I doubt pressurized suits required mass effect fields to function, nor would a clean suit with an oxygen tank. Still sounds like Quarian and Volus are a stretch to me. Biotics might be screwed though, they have mass effect field boosting implants in them that'd suddenly be dying.
 

Saerain

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Just don't do a prequel. God damn it, don't to a prequel. Fuck you, don't to a prequel. Just not a prequel.
 

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CJ1145 said:
Oh, I swear to fuck if they're planning Hawke 2.0...
I still don't understand why some people had a problem with Hawke to begin with :\.

Now I loved ME3, ending included, but ME3's ending offered closure to the ME universe, gave it an epic ending that suited the end to the series as a whole. Feels like they're trying to beat life out of a corpse that died with dignity.

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Saerain said:
Just don't do a prequel. God damn it, don't to a prequel. Fuck you, don't to a prequel. Just not a prequel.
A prequel would be better than a sequel.
 

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I wouldn't mind a mercanary or criminal as a protagonist, I liked Shepard but playing with the choice of exactly how involved you want to get with the criminal world would lead to some interesting situations. Hey mabey the protagonist cna even be another species. Batarian perhaps. On a side note I am playing Mass Effect 3 at the moment (I am cheap so I waited till it was around 20$ like I do for most games.), so far pretty good though fingers crossed for the ending to not suck as much as everyone says it does. Then again I liked Dragon Age 2 so mabey this will be another case of liking something almost everyone else hates.
 
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Eh, honestly I'd prefer Bioware to either make a proper KOTOR sequel (which obviously isn't gonna happen with TOR in existence) or something brand new at this point. Much as I enjoy Mass Effect, they'll never surpass how great the first game was, and it just feels... complete, with the ending of ME3 (extended cut, that is). I really don't know where they could go from there, honestly. But, y'know, I'll keep an open mind for now, could be good.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
You know what will happen.

We will play as Eagle, a commoner who managed to escape from earth during the Reaper invasion. With the help of Aria T'loak, he manages to help his family escape to Omega, losing his sister/brother/cousin/puppy in the process depending on what class he/she is.

Then starts his rise to glory on Omega, where he earns respect for his actions in the promenade, Aria's club, and the basement. Then, an anti biotic group and a pro biotic group start a civil war, and he gets thrown into the middle of it, even if he isn't a biotic.

Will feature cameos by Neil Patrick Harris, and John Barrowman.

Not content with having to press a button to make something awesome happen, the game will feature a streamlined approach to gameplay in order to fix bugs from Mass Effect 3. Once you put the disk in the machine, you won't need to press anything else to make awesome stuff happen. The game will do it for you!
To be fair, since Dragon Age: 2 never happened, this is an interesting, fun original scenario.
What could possibly go wrong?
 

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I hope they don't pull a half life: opposing forces/blue shift. While there would be cool stories to tell, I don't really want to play in a backdrop I just played in. Especially when the world they created has so much more to offer.
 

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Although this is probably all hopeless dreaming on my part, what I really really want is for the new protaganist to come from a "dragon age: origins" style introduction.

Choose a gender, race/species and background for your character before tossing them into the wider world after the intro to their story, with the mass effect universe's diversity I think it would be amazing!

... that and I really want to play a turian!

Still it will be interesting to see what happens next with the series, sequel, prequel or otherwise
 

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Hmm. I'm interested by this. I'll have to keep an eye out on info and I hope Bioware doesn't mess this up. And people should stop being so upset over the ending. It's done. Move on.
 

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BaronIveagh said:
But who would buy it at this point, after so much fail on 3?
80% of the people who said they were going to boycott 3, since that's the rough number of people who bought it anyway.

The real question is: how can Bioware make a game without using one of their key tropes?
 

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I hate to seem bias on any gaming related subject, but this sounds simply as another EA milking Bioware, just like with Dragon Age 2.
 

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Souplex said:
Soviet Heavy said:
You know what will happen.

We will play as Eagle, a commoner who managed to escape from earth during the Reaper invasion. With the help of Aria T'loak, he manages to help his family escape to Omega, losing his sister/brother/cousin/puppy in the process depending on what class he/she is.

Then starts his rise to glory on Omega, where he earns respect for his actions in the promenade, Aria's club, and the basement. Then, an anti biotic group and a pro biotic group start a civil war, and he gets thrown into the middle of it, even if he isn't a biotic.

Will feature cameos by Neil Patrick Harris, and John Barrowman.

Not content with having to press a button to make something awesome happen, the game will feature a streamlined approach to gameplay in order to fix bugs from Mass Effect 3. Once you put the disk in the machine, you won't need to press anything else to make awesome stuff happen. The game will do it for you!
To be fair, since Dragon Age: 2 never happened, this is an interesting, fun original scenario.
What could possibly go wrong?
It would definitely be awesome if they set the game in a seedier background. You could start off as a two bit enforcer for whatever cartel is around then work your way up to head your own organisation. That way you can still have the TPS sections with the option add in some sort of economy/trading ala privateer.

I would love it if they reintroduced some form of vehicular combat even if its on rails. It would make sense that in that kind of setting that you have to protect convoys and shipments.

As for carrying on from the ending I think it would be pretty simple. With a bit of hand waving the reapers could be dismissed back to dark space for the control/synth options, whereas they would be dead in in the destroy continuum. The overall threat this time could be either a biotic uprising or perhaps some sort of anti biotic plague being unleashed upon the galaxy by those who have reverse engineered reaper tech. Either way there is no reason to mention the reapers or shep and the thing you would need extra to carry on from the synth ending would be a texture overlay for the glowy effect.

That way your not really facing a threat as massive as the reapers but it would still be substantial especially for a small outfit of outlaws/mercs. The story line would be smaller but would also allow for a tighter feel instead of the galaxy wide space opera that ME evolved into under Shep.
 

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Mimsofthedawg said:
BaronIveagh said:
But who would buy it at this point, after so much fail on 3?
Well, for me, a proper sequel (and I mean sequel) could be Mass Effect's saving grace. The entire reason why I hated the ending of the first trilogy was because...

with the distruction of the mass relays, all intergalactic travel stopped, effectively destroying the entire Mass Effect universe.

there were other aspects of the ending that were really dumb, but for me, that was the crux of it. I haven't even looked at the "Extended ending" or w/e they called that free DLC pack because I know it did not fix this crucial issue, which, again, was the crux of my problems.

A proper sequel could fix this by reestablishing intergalactic travel somehow, allowing me to once again enjoy the game's universe.

But we'll see.
The EC clarified that, the relays werent destroyed they were damaged and eventually rebuilt, that was specifically mentioned in the control and destroy endings so it makes sense it would have applied in the synth ending too.