I...I.... I want this game so much. Hell, if the game was just a picture of John Barrowman and Neil Patrick Harris, I would buy it.Soviet Heavy said:
I'M NOT GAY, I just love those two.
[small] Sexually...[/small]
Mass Effect 4 Will Not Feature Shepard or "Shepard 2"
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I'M NOT GAY, I just love those two.
[small] Sexually...[/small]
My comment on this bit of news? Well I see a bunch of bones and a pool of blood at the exact same spot where a rather healthy and strong-looking horse stood a few years ago.
Not saying that the Mass Effect setting should be done and over with, since it does have potential for more stories. But I really really really don't want to see another hype, more bad decisions in the name of "broader customer appeal" (code phrase for "appeal to the lowest common denominator, so we can charge more people for it) and the false insinuations that each of us gets an own story to play, a story that we create, only to be told at the end "Nope, we're doing this my way".
Not saying that the Mass Effect setting should be done and over with, since it does have potential for more stories. But I really really really don't want to see another hype, more bad decisions in the name of "broader customer appeal" (code phrase for "appeal to the lowest common denominator, so we can charge more people for it) and the false insinuations that each of us gets an own story to play, a story that we create, only to be told at the end "Nope, we're doing this my way".
To be totally honest, I was getting sick of Shepard towards the end of ME3. A new protagonist is very appealing to me and it would be nice if the protagonist was possibly a bit more up beat. But that's just me...
It will be Shepard replaced by Shepurd, anything else would require originality.
They also tell the truth, you won't be a soldier, you'll be a random dude going about his/her business, who five seconds later witnesses his wife/girlfriend/parents/village and children/siblings/orphanage murdered by actions of RandomAntagonistGeneratorHere, thus rushing off to enlist with the Army/Militia/Rebellion/Druglords and becoming a soldier for great justice.
How can anyone possibly believe that it will be anything other than another Manshoot game? Did we not all witness the first game try to be something somewhat different, then spend both its sequels trying to emulate Gears of War with magic thrown in too?
I'm all for judging a game on its own merits *after* release, that is I believe the smartest way gamers can go about gaming. Yet EA has a firm grasp now, most of Biowares talent have abandoned ship. Having high hopes for ME4 is bad enough, but actually pre-ordering this crap? Way to send a message that this is acceptable.
They also tell the truth, you won't be a soldier, you'll be a random dude going about his/her business, who five seconds later witnesses his wife/girlfriend/parents/village and children/siblings/orphanage murdered by actions of RandomAntagonistGeneratorHere, thus rushing off to enlist with the Army/Militia/Rebellion/Druglords and becoming a soldier for great justice.
How can anyone possibly believe that it will be anything other than another Manshoot game? Did we not all witness the first game try to be something somewhat different, then spend both its sequels trying to emulate Gears of War with magic thrown in too?
I'm all for judging a game on its own merits *after* release, that is I believe the smartest way gamers can go about gaming. Yet EA has a firm grasp now, most of Biowares talent have abandoned ship. Having high hopes for ME4 is bad enough, but actually pre-ordering this crap? Way to send a message that this is acceptable.
Well I doubt they can really do a sequel without pissing off 2 thirds of the people left who still don't hate Bioware in some way. (Well, maybe one third. The people who chose Destruction probably aren't picky).
I'm not entirely sure about not having another Shepard. My first instinct is that that's a good thing and will open up different gameplay, and the Mass Effect series has ample opportunity to make use of its rich universe, but without combat they'll have to try really hard to make it entertaining.
But if they're going to sell it on choices and their effects, they better damn well follow through. Another cop-out like ME3 and they will not be forgiven. Hell, enough people have disowned Bioware after ME3 alone.
Lastly...I know I'm being immature...but...!
...Condominas? Really? That's a name that exists?
I'm not entirely sure about not having another Shepard. My first instinct is that that's a good thing and will open up different gameplay, and the Mass Effect series has ample opportunity to make use of its rich universe, but without combat they'll have to try really hard to make it entertaining.
But if they're going to sell it on choices and their effects, they better damn well follow through. Another cop-out like ME3 and they will not be forgiven. Hell, enough people have disowned Bioware after ME3 alone.
Lastly...I know I'm being immature...but...!
...Condominas? Really? That's a name that exists?
That's weird...since shepard isn't dead and lying unconscious in London, with the reapers still to be dealt with.
Seems like it's more likely to be prequel than anything. If I'm right and it is, they better bring back the ammo heat system.
Also, you'd think that the bioware anti-fans would be aware that they aren't even worth listening to at this point. No offense to anti-fans.
Also, you'd think that the bioware anti-fans would be aware that they aren't even worth listening to at this point. No offense to anti-fans.
You know we could always play as Blasto.
I for one think this could be cool, Imagine playing as an outcast Quarian, it would be a very different tone (nobody trust you), or a mysteruis young asari. who knows, there is a lot of potential here as long as they don't screw it up. also this could be a prequal to the other 3 game. I wouldn't mind the character be a set gender with a set back round, yes that restricts player actions, but the character could be more developed and interesting that way, they could make the personal struggles more meaningful (like garrolt from the witcher 2). I'll reserve my judgement of it until it's out, or more information is released. I think it's unfair to blacklist it when we barely know anything
On top of the fact that with the exception of the mass effect 3 ending, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I also don't hate EA, they are only puplishing the game, I am not going to blacklist a game becuase it was made by ea, mass effect 2, bfbc2 and mirrors edge where all released by EA and I loved them.
I for one think this could be cool, Imagine playing as an outcast Quarian, it would be a very different tone (nobody trust you), or a mysteruis young asari. who knows, there is a lot of potential here as long as they don't screw it up. also this could be a prequal to the other 3 game. I wouldn't mind the character be a set gender with a set back round, yes that restricts player actions, but the character could be more developed and interesting that way, they could make the personal struggles more meaningful (like garrolt from the witcher 2). I'll reserve my judgement of it until it's out, or more information is released. I think it's unfair to blacklist it when we barely know anything
On top of the fact that with the exception of the mass effect 3 ending, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I also don't hate EA, they are only puplishing the game, I am not going to blacklist a game becuase it was made by ea, mass effect 2, bfbc2 and mirrors edge where all released by EA and I loved them.
I'm okay with this Shepherd's story ended in ME 3. I hope they go for some what Firefly angle with Mass Effect 4. A rag tag group of smugglers on the edge of terminus system that would be pretty cool .
This has fail written all over it. If they do a sequel and pick one ME3 ending as canon it will be another slap to the face of the people that played the trilogy. There will be another shitstorm related to this for sure.
Including all possible outcomes from ME3 in a ME4 sequel is impossible or at least very hard to achieve. From what I've seen from "Bioware" within the last few years they are incapable of doing it properly.
If they do a prequel it'll be boring most likely or at least not as interesting story wise than the original 3 games.
But I'd love to know where they want to go with the gameplay. They switched the focus from ME1 to ME3 more and more to simpler game mechanics and I still think that ME3 overall was at best an average game. The shooter based gameplay was very linear and boring and the only thing that kept me playing was the story. For the most part the story was able to make for the bad gameplay, but after they fucked up the ending so bad I simply hate the game.
And I still hate this game so much that I don't want to touch any other product made by this company ever again.....
Including all possible outcomes from ME3 in a ME4 sequel is impossible or at least very hard to achieve. From what I've seen from "Bioware" within the last few years they are incapable of doing it properly.
If they do a prequel it'll be boring most likely or at least not as interesting story wise than the original 3 games.
But I'd love to know where they want to go with the gameplay. They switched the focus from ME1 to ME3 more and more to simpler game mechanics and I still think that ME3 overall was at best an average game. The shooter based gameplay was very linear and boring and the only thing that kept me playing was the story. For the most part the story was able to make for the bad gameplay, but after they fucked up the ending so bad I simply hate the game.
And I still hate this game so much that I don't want to touch any other product made by this company ever again.....
Yes, in matter of fact game will feature Shepard 3
He/she will be combat engineer that is trapped on planetripper class vessel with abominations created by Reapers.
Also game conflict is decided by eating one of 3 cupcakes
And game will be multiplayer only experience, because only losers play alone and have any feeling for imaginary characters or some fictional story.
P.S. Needless to say but I won't buy ME4- my favorite ME was ME1 and I played ME2&3 in hopes of better game and curiosity. Now I'm done with Mass Effect and with EA.
He/she will be combat engineer that is trapped on planetripper class vessel with abominations created by Reapers.
Also game conflict is decided by eating one of 3 cupcakes
And game will be multiplayer only experience, because only losers play alone and have any feeling for imaginary characters or some fictional story.
P.S. Needless to say but I won't buy ME4- my favorite ME was ME1 and I played ME2&3 in hopes of better game and curiosity. Now I'm done with Mass Effect and with EA.
Oh, look, another person jumping to conclusions about what I'm talking about.bl4ckh4wk64 said:
Actually, no, I did not enjoy ME 3 pretty much from start to finish. It was a massive letdown across the board compared to ME 2 let alone the first game, and had plot holes you could lose the Citadel in. The addition of the 4th 'Option' ending (the only one that actually made sense in the context of the previous two games if you played as a Paragon) was the biggest 'FU!' I've ever seen a game company deliver in response to it's fans complaints.
If the decisions that led to ME 3 show the sort of decisions that will be made making Me 4, then, yes, I see it being a TOR level flop.
That still sounds rather selective in what technologies are destroyed. From what's shown in the ending the implication is tech that things like the relays were what's targeted, and relays are pretty explicitly reaper tech. And relays alone are kind of the basis of galactic civilization, as well as the basis of all of space travel and weaponry, so those alone could be what it meant by technology you rely upon.FelixG said:
I doubt pressurized suits required mass effect fields to function, nor would a clean suit with an oxygen tank. Still sounds like Quarian and Volus are a stretch to me. Biotics might be screwed though, they have mass effect field boosting implants in them that'd suddenly be dying.
I still don't understand why some people had a problem with Hawke to begin with :\.CJ1145 said:
Now I loved ME3, ending included, but ME3's ending offered closure to the ME universe, gave it an epic ending that suited the end to the series as a whole. Feels like they're trying to beat life out of a corpse that died with dignity.
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A prequel would be better than a sequel.Saerain said: