Mass Effect 4 Will Not Feature Shepard or "Shepard 2"
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Oddly enough, it's about the only reason I'd buy it. Mass Effect's SP experience lost me midway through 2, but 3's MP is fun.Fudj said:
The SP story kinda sucked after 1. I'm not a huge MP fan, but co-op with a bunch of friends does tickle me. Even if it is a little clunky.Fudj said:
I like local multiplayer just fine, Worms, PAIN, Bomberman and alike......just never got into doing the same online, perhaps its a case of wanting to see the faces of my vanquished enemiesZachary Amaranth said:
Opinions on the story differ with every person you talk to, i for the most part liked it, and its allways been one of my favorite gamer series. But that doesn't stop me seeing what others could find fault with and in some case agree with (of course though not as strongly).
why do we need ME4 its just going to get ruined, the universe is huge find another story in the universe or make an entirely new IP!(fat chance) to make a game about. why must we be pelted with sequels for a franchise that is already weakening and needs no more dilution.
i am sorry if i am over reacting but i genuinely like the series, and the thought of mass effect becoming like COD a sort of yearly title thing scares the fanboy in me to the very core.
seriously somebody needs to hammer in the fact that trilogy means 3 and that sequels can actually hurt a series retroactively, i am a fan to the extent that i might even say dumb irrational things in this series defense and probably have in the past. I do not want another ME, because i believe all good entertainment must have an indisputable end.
although the article is vague and attempting to dismiss the idea of a direct sequel i have a nagging feeling that they are empty promises, and that we will see the same thing with varying circumstances
i am sorry if i am over reacting but i genuinely like the series, and the thought of mass effect becoming like COD a sort of yearly title thing scares the fanboy in me to the very core.
seriously somebody needs to hammer in the fact that trilogy means 3 and that sequels can actually hurt a series retroactively, i am a fan to the extent that i might even say dumb irrational things in this series defense and probably have in the past. I do not want another ME, because i believe all good entertainment must have an indisputable end.
although the article is vague and attempting to dismiss the idea of a direct sequel i have a nagging feeling that they are empty promises, and that we will see the same thing with varying circumstances
After ME3...ME4 may not feature a Carpathic either.
Unless of course they return to the awesomeness of the first Mass Effect with its gritty 80's feel.
That would really be awesome!
And I get to see and interact more with Noveria. I loved that city, with its architectural concrete and fountains. I would live there.
Unless of course they return to the awesomeness of the first Mass Effect with its gritty 80's feel.
That would really be awesome!
And I get to see and interact more with Noveria. I loved that city, with its architectural concrete and fountains. I would live there.
I hope ME4 will have you play as the descendent of one of the Citadel shop owners Shepard endorsed, caught in an epic legal battle with the other stores over whose endorsement is right.
This.Jove said:
There's literally tons of material in the background of the universe for a new game with a radically new (i.e. not special forces soldier) gameplay style-alien private investigator on Omega perhaps?
Fair enough. I mostly MP with friends anyway. It's easier for me to get my friends arranged for game night if they can play at home. All the trash talk and fun, albeit no stupid expressions.Fudj said:I like local multiplayer just fine, Worms, PAIN, Bomberman and alike......just never got into doing the same online, perhaps its a case of wanting to see the faces of my vanquished enemies
Opinions on the story differ with every person you talk to, i for the most part liked it, and its allways been one of my favorite gamer series. But that doesn't stop me seeing what others could find fault with and in some case agree with (of course though not as strongly).
I don't like online communities in general when it comes to gaming. If I wanted to hear homophobic and racist slurs, I'd go to a family gathering.
I loved ME1, for the record.
Anyway, good to disagree with someone who's agreeable.
Strange this is exactly what I was thinking. Firefly in the ME universe. Parallel, before or after events of ME3. Doesn't matter, just a group exploring and trying to survive.level27smartass said:
Hell run it parallel with ME1 and then have a newscaster or squadmate (it's Bioware. No squadmates would be like a kettle without fish) at some point go
"Hey there is a human spectre now."
"Really who?"
"I dunno, Alliance, Sheep or something."
And there is your nod to the source material, carry on.
What you've just said validates the case for another Shepard-oriented installment even more.Jove said:
Shepard, by him/herself, was the catalyst (no pun intended) for the entirety of the events in the trilogy. You are the one who has to actively stop the Reapers, shut down the Citadel Sovereign broadcast, get things for people, grant Spectre authorization, stop the Collectors, etc. I could go on all day.
If anything, the narrative shows that the galaxy is incapable of doing practically anything unless Shepard does it for them. The Council refused to believe the threat until zero-hour, and suffered for it. Garrus probably would have been toast without your help. According to the default choices in the series, the game assumes the worst possible outcome if you weren't around to aid your squadmates/the galaxy. Trying to throw in another human character who has the same function will only make BW's stupid decision to kill off Shepard even more obvious.
That said, BW has also tried multiple times to push spinoff characters in tie-in games (Jacob in ME: Galaxies, the secret agent in ME3: Infiltrator), and those were forgettable installments that had no impact on anything.
Point is, the only way they're going to succeed is if they retcon Shepard's death. They haven't proven their ability in recent years to craft a compelling character who isn't a human. If the money is needed, they'll retcon him in a heartbeat.
This is the same problem that happened in the third game. All of the ME2 squadmates were homogenized to the point of irrelevance because there was the possibility that they died in 2's Suicide Mission. All of your squadmates (barring a single one) could be killed in that mission, and BW/EA wouldn't bother to craft more extra content/DLC/a spinoff game for potentially-dead people without serious retcons.
They wrote themselves into a corner, and they're not going to get out of it without retconning the entire ending wholesale. The Extended Cut wasn't enough, even though it tried.
i dont think you understood my post, i dont believe they genuinely intend to do something new with the franchise, as in telling a new story within the universe, and if they do it will only be circumstantially different, i dont think they have the balls to walk away from something that has proven to be financially rewarding.Jove said:
i am only extrapolating from your other post, which i in retrospect should have quoted as i don't really understand what your references have to do with my posts
I wouldn't touch it with a mile long pole after the EPIC failure of ME3. And, as we learned (again) with ME3, don't listen to magazines when they review it, go for user reaction. If the user reaction is like with ME3 then it's probably not worth it and it's better to wait and get a used copy later on.
Zachary Amaranth said:Fair enough. I mostly MP with friends anyway. It's easier for me to get my friends arranged for game night if they can play at home. All the trash talk and fun, albeit no stupid expressions.Fudj said:I like local multiplayer just fine, Worms, PAIN, Bomberman and alike......just never got into doing the same online, perhaps its a case of wanting to see the faces of my vanquished enemies
Opinions on the story differ with every person you talk to, i for the most part liked it, and its allways been one of my favorite gamer series. But that doesn't stop me seeing what others could find fault with and in some case agree with (of course though not as strongly).
I don't like online communities in general when it comes to gaming. If I wanted to hear homophobic and racist slurs, I'd go to a family gathering.
I loved ME1, for the record.
Anyway, good to disagree with someone who's agreeable.
Well just because you disagree does not automatically make someone a dick...a lesson a few people here could learn
for me i have to see the expressions of dismay...thats what gets my mutiplayer rocks off 
Yahtzee called, he wants his lines back. In any case, just because you didn't enjoy the rest of the game doesn't mean that others had to hate it too. It's not like there's differing opinions in the world. And while I was talking about the rest of the game I meant both story and gameplay were above average. The story had a way of feeling intense and epic while at the same time being understandable, and the gameplay didn't detract from it in any way and I felt Shepard growing stronger the longer I played. All in all, the game was outstanding, if a little disappointing with the end for some people.Politeia said: